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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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I think it's because they realize the 8 won't be a huge seller so they're doing everything to shore up it's numbers. Amazing that you can still preorder and get it launch day. The last time I saw this was the 3GS, and by the end of the day it was sold out. Guess everyone is waiting for the X.
You are new here so you would be unaware of some posters post histories in the fora which are testament to everything I posted.
When you get to over decade spent here and 25k+ posts later, trust me you will be more than able to spot the difference between valid discussion, criticism and those persistently trolling behind a faint veil charade
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When an in-browser video is expanded it goes landscape. Wouldn't fly if part of the video is cut off or having to do extra hand gymnastics everytime to unchop it.
I’ve been using the iOS 11 GM. I like it! Flows pretty nicely. Good lord I can’t believe it took 10 years to not have the volume toggle block a video but here we are.
Apple has blamed the high U.K. Price of the iPhone on Brexit, usual excuse, and exchange rates and import costs..
I don't recall Dell or HP doing a direct £ to $ price though??? Funny that...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...es-taxes-extra-costs-higher-uk-iphone-prices/
IMO just an excuse from Apple to try and thinly vale its price gouging. Considering the value Android offers..
Perhaps when Apple stops money laundering it's profits through their fake offices in Ireland paying 0.5% tax they would find sympathy?
I don't recall Dell or HP doing a direct £ to $ price though??? Funny that...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...es-taxes-extra-costs-higher-uk-iphone-prices/
IMO just an excuse from Apple to try and thinly vale its price gouging. Considering the value Android offers..
Perhaps when Apple stops money laundering it's profits through their fake offices in Ireland paying 0.5% tax they would find sympathy?
It’s been available at launch (sim free that is) the past 2 years at least. I bought mine sim-free last year shortly after launch, not because it wasn’t an option on day 1 but because the Jet Black was in very short supply.
Interesting. I haven't pre-ordered an iPhone since the iPhone 5, and that particular phone I pre-ordered through Verizon (back when contracts existed!). That said, I don't know what's normal and what's not. I just assumed that you could get iPhones unlocked on day one.
If the iPhone 8 is available carrier-free, I ponder if the X will be available in the same way on preorder day? At this very moment, you are required to choose a carrier for the iPhone X (even though pre-orders aren't allowed yet).
If you read the FAQ's at the bottom of the preorder page, it appears that all iPhones come unlocked, even if purchased through a carrier; save for this clause: "Your iPhone will only be tied to your carrier if you choose carrier financing from AT&T or Sprint."
Would someone explain to me why you must choose a carrier option, then? Like what is the benefit/deal between Apple and these carriers?
But you are still paying less than many of us in European countries including Ireland. It really is time for UK'ers to stop playing the same old broken record each year.
You (The UK) are not a special case, even though your news media & politicians (and speaking from an outside observers perspective as someone who also spent 14 years living in the UK, the greater general public like to think themselves are too) and stop painting yourselves as being specialed out or (as I have also seen, read & heard repeatedly) as victims of some wider conspiracy or agenda ...
Outside of Amercia we have always paid more for US products (especially technology) comparing domestic US prices and factoring their state tax, to a direct currency conversion and adding the applicable vat/tax rate in whichever country you are in. This isn't exclusive to Apple and never has been. The fact Apple products have always carried a price premium over direct comparative products both Mac to PC or Mobile to Mobile only exacerbates the increased price we pay outside of the USA.
If we want change, then more people need to vote with their wallets. There are plenty of alternatives and Apple are not forcing people to buy their products. Its a choice people are making well aware of the price discrepancy.
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But you are still paying less than many of us in European countries including Ireland. It really is time for UK'ers to stop playing the same old broken record each year.
You (The UK) are not a special case, even though your news media & politicians (and speaking from an outside observers perspective as someone who also spent 14 years living in the UK, the greater general public like to think themselves are too) and stop painting yourselves as being specialed out or (as I have also seen, read & heard repeatedly) as victims of some wider conspiracy or agenda ...
Outside of Amercia we have always paid more for US products (especially technology) comparing domestic US prices and factoring their state tax, to a direct currency conversion and adding the applicable vat/tax rate in whichever country you are in. This isn't exclusive to Apple and never has been. The fact Apple products have always carried a price premium over direct comparative products both Mac to PC or Mobile to Mobile only exacerbates the increased price we pay outside of the USA.
If we want change, then more people need to vote with their wallets. There are plenty of alternatives and Apple are not forcing people to buy their products. Its a choice people are making well aware of the price discrepancy.
I usually agree with you on pretty much everything you write on here, but not this. You're right it is time to vote with our wallets and I wish more people did like I did, but they don't. We're stuck with mediocre releases that people still seem to buzz for and take on this allegiance to Apple where they have to defend pricing. It's always people who have no issues with funding that defend things like a £240 a year price increase.
I'm not going to shut up about this anytime soon either so if this is grating now, it might be best to remove me from your feeds.
Hey I totally agree with you on the price hikes they are a total piss take. The price of phones is exhorbitent.
I was more addressing the intimation in my response that the UK specifically is singled out in this regard (when other countries or gouged more) or that this is something to do with EU or Apple's tax situation. It isn't .....
Apple has priced the base variant of the iPhone X around $200-300 more than the Note 8 in some countries. China,India and the UK have it the worst.
The UK does not have it worst. The graph doesn't show any other European countries where the price difference is greater. Here for example it is €1179 = $1420. Other European countries are charged even higher and it's the same with the Nordic countries where they all end up over $1400 equivalent.
The price difference between the Note 8 and iPhone X is €180. Both are very expensive regardless.
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Proportionate to its population, Ireland has I read one of the highest iPhone ownerships rates per capita. Same with PlayStation ownership weirdly enough.
However of course 4.5 million people compared to a population of 65 million, then yes clearly far far more devices are sold in UK.
Although surely Europe's largest market is the whole of Europe 550 million people - the main point of the EU single market - and not any one specific country.
Yea, they're just not going to be a viable option for the common man are they?
I can't see Mr and Mrs average giving junior the note or the x after upgrading after 2 years for Jr to lose it, bend it or annihilate it after a few weeks at school. Just not happening. Jr will be getting a Samsung J/A or a well worn Apple SE.
Without kids, Apple's user base would be much much smaller.
The consensus on this site is that the X will be a massive hit. I honestly can't see how given it's 33% more expensive than the 8.
Given the price of some fantastic android handsets less than $400-500 I think it would be madness for parents to spend Note 8 and iPhone X pricing on their teens. However I suspect a lot of parents will end up pressurised to taking carrier subsidised handsets in their own name for their kids despite the astronomic price and the plethora of genuinely fantastic handsets below $400-500. I've seen it anecdotaly from friends here who will use a 2-3 year old phone whilst giving their carrier subsidised upgrade to their teens.
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If I could get a phone, tablet and watch to sync as seamlessly as I have with iOS elsewhere, I'd jump straight on it.
I've grown to love iOS and now I'm being forced to have half hearted products in the iPhone line because Apple is putting all the new features in it's iPhone 'X'tortionnate. If they put a bit more effort into the other upgrade (iPhone 8) we wouldn't be as pissed off.
Yeah I'm stuck in the ecosystem work wise for syncing and for continuity (design work) and I am more getting infuriated with the fact my hardware options even the 'pro' models such as MacPro or iMacPro are falling behind in features I genuinely want. If I could get an iMacPro that offered a Wacom Digitiser to work directly on like the Surface Studio or even a laptop with similar to justify the price. Instead I have to look at €3-5k devices where I don't have those ...
I'm pissed off with ever increasing prices of the phones, but not so much the hardware of the phones.
But with Mac hardware I'm getting pissed off with both the ever increasing price and hardware with missing features that I want to genuinely advance / progress my workflow.
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I think the fact it is a brand new (long, long overdue) design, means people are willing to do what they can to get hold of one. The Apple Upgrade Programme is also going to be able to put the device in peoples hands who can't afford the hit outright (which lets be honest, not a lot of people can).
If Apple had only unveiled the 8 and not the X, I wouldn't even be interested. The fact that it's finally an OLED Panel, I like the design (yes, even with the notch) and I also have no qualms with iOS, means that I'd love to be able to get one.
There are also a lot of other people who won't use anything other than Apple, and not many of those people are going to want to 'upgrade' to an 8 if they're rocking a 7 or even a 6s/6.
When I seen it was not available until November, I was kind of glad as it means I can try and get some money together (I've signed up for loads of work overtime!) and hopefully it gives them time to get adequate stock together. But lets be realistic, 2 minutes after it goes live it will be on back order.
Financing. People who select the carrier option receive the option to use a payment plan. Apple does offer their own program but I don’t know how stringent the credit check is. Carrier credit checks usually have a pretty low threshold.
Also, availability plays a role. The unlocked model’s shipping time has slipped to a couple of weeks. You can still get carrier models on launch day.
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People don’t look at the phone as costing $1k. They see it as costing $40/month.
And if you want an indication as to how big a hit it will be, consider you can as of right now still order a new iPhone 8 and get it release day. I can’t remember the last time that was possible 24 hours into the preorder launch. That means everyone is keeping their powder dry for the X.
iPhone X is going to be gigantic.
We could assume that but it could also be that demand for upgrades is down this year too. This is effectively an 'S' year as the iPhone 7 was s first iteration release and these years in the past have always had less quantity. I know a lot of people who are hanging onto their phones this year and those I know who are upgrading have ordered the 8. I think it's difficult at this stage to predict how it's going.
It will be bought for the new design as we have been awaiting a design change since 2014 Anyone who wanted an iPhone 7 has already gotten one by now and doesn’t need an 8 and those on the 6s will also consider the 7 because the 8 is nothing but a spec bumped 7 with true tone and wireless charging but priced for more than what those features are worth. Conclusion being that the remaining 6s,6and 7 owners will be going for the X
As some member on this forum posted the iPhone X launch is equivalent to the Hunger Games with the iPhone X in the middle and both teams on either side rushing in for the prize. The fact that the iPhone 8 preorder day is so calm is an indication of how bad the iPhone X day is going to be. If you don’t get your order in on 27th might as well wait for the next Keynote.
Could we be looking at the first iPhone that has demand but hideously undersells because of supply chain issues I wonder? If I was in the business to get an X and was told I'd have to wait until January, I'd just get something else.
Ha I've also signed up for overtime because I'm still undecided on whether I want to get it or not. I suppose if I use money from overtime to pay for it I will soften the blow a bit because it will be a 'treat' for doing extra work lol