Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[convergent]

If FaceID needs 25-50cm of difference to work properly and even in a perfect scenario, it's still slightly slower than gen 2 TouchID, seems it's somewhat of a step backwards. They should have kept the fps on the back and swallowed their pride. This is s perfect scenario and the one on the right seems slightly annoying to me. There is also no telling how it would work with odd angles and glasses. It's why I didn't buy the Note 8. The iris scanner needs angles and is hit or miss with glasses. I guess I will find out when I receive mine in a month

Correct, but on a Note 8 I can put my finger on the FPS at the same time I look at the phone. Its a race. One of them will win and it is different each time. If my phone is coming out of my pocket, then the FPS will always win. If its on the charger on my desk then Iris will win.

For all that bought the X, I hope it works well or that is a lot of money to spend and have it not. If they nail it then it is good for everyone because the better tech will proliferate. I just didn't want to take the risk.

 

[widgeteer]

Apple. Sounds like mine then.

We should be fine.

 

[koigirl]

Once you’ve sent an animated emoji to a couple of your mates I do wonder have often this will be used too? For me it would probably be about as often as I check the stocks app or use the compass.

Yeah, I can’t think of many occasions I would be sending “Animoji’s” to friends and acquaintances as they might think I’d gone off the deep end...

 

[widgeteer]

This reviewer spent a week with the iPhone X, and took it to Disneyland.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/31/review-the-iphone-x-goes-to-disneyland/

I was most interested in reading how Face ID works. This actually has me pretty psyched for the feature.

This looks amazing: the phone hides notification content until you look at it:

 

[tbayrgs]

This reviewer spent a week with the iPhone X, and took it to Disneyland.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/31/review-the-iphone-x-goes-to-disneyland/

I was most interested in reading how Face ID works. This actually has me pretty psyched for the feature.

This looks amazing: the phone hides notification content until you look at it:

I’ve got to stop reading about the X as the more I do, the more inclined I am to just keep one of the 2 I’ve ordered for myself.

 

[Aneres11]

That Techcrunch review was absolutely fantastic.
It makes all these other guys sat behind expensive, flashy desks with super HD 4K recordings of video sweeping over the phone as they talk about the design and not a lot else seem pointless.

As he said, it's real world use. The way we all use our phones every day. I was mega impressed with his take on it and also found out a lot of stuff about the phone that I didn't even know it could do.

It hasn't done anything to put me off wanting the phone either, if anything I want it more now. Damn him haha. I always planned to move back to iOS for the new iPhone, as I often like to do 6 months on iOS from October and then go back to an Android device in April / May time. However I'd talked myself out of it due to the price of the X. Now I'm finding ways to try and justify it to myself!

 

[FFR]

This reviewer spent a week with the iPhone X, and took it to Disneyland.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/31/review-the-iphone-x-goes-to-disneyland/

I was most interested in reading how Face ID works. This actually has me pretty psyched for the feature.

This looks amazing: the phone hides notification content until you look at it:

That is incredibly useful.
Can’t wait to try out Face ID.

The display isn’t an old Samsung oled panel like some posters were claiming

“Apple’s version of an OLED screen is manufactured by Samsung, but is not an off-the-shelf Samsung part. It’s a custom-built, diamond-pattern OLED array that was built to Apple specifications and driven by an Apple display driver. This screen is not comparable to screens found in Samsung devices on a variety of levels. You can like those screens just fine, I’m not arguing that, but this is absolutely not an implementation of a standard Samsung part.

 

[widgeteer]

That Techcrunch review was absolutely fantastic.
It makes all these other guys sat behind expensive, flashy desks with super HD 4K recordings of video sweeping over the phone as they talk about the design and not a lot else seem pointless.

As he said, it's real world use. The way we all use our phones every day. I was mega impressed with his take on it and also found out a lot of stuff about the phone that I didn't even know it could do.

It hasn't done anything to put me off wanting the phone either, if anything I want it more now. Damn him haha. I always planned to move back to iOS for the new iPhone, as I often like to do 6 months on iOS from October and then go back to an Android device in April / May time. However I'd talked myself out of it due to the price of the X. Now I'm finding ways to try and justify it to myself!

Yup. What impressed me the most was how informational the review was. For instance, I had no idea reachability was included with the software. This is the stuff I want to know about. I don't care about the friggin notch. Either it'll annoy me or I won't care about it. It's just not that important. Tell me about Face ID outside of whether it worked in a deli or whatever. Granted, the guy had the phone for a week vs.just 24 hours but let's be honest: that Verge review probably wouldn't read much different after a full week's worth of use.

 

[Aneres11]

Well it certainly ended up prompting me to place my X order.
So once again. I'm weak.

 

[widgeteer]

Well it certainly ended up prompting me to place my X order.
So once again. I'm weak.

You wouldn't be interested in posting to.this sub forum if you didn't share our illness.

 

[Aneres11]

You wouldn't be interested in posting to.this sub forum if you didn't share our illness.

Haha. Surely there's a cure?! No? Ok I'll keep buying phones.

 

[FFR]

Well it certainly ended up prompting me to place my X order.
So once again. I'm weak.

You might have a problem .
What color did you order?

 

[Aneres11]

You might have a problem .
What color did you order?

Oh I knew I had a problem years ago. I've embraced it. Lol.

Silver.

 

[jamezr]

Haha. Surely there's a cure?! No? Ok I'll keep buying phones.

LOL...there is no cure for our affliction.....

 

[convergent]

This reviewer spent a week with the iPhone X, and took it to Disneyland.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/31/review-the-iphone-x-goes-to-disneyland/

I was most interested in reading how Face ID works. This actually has me pretty psyched for the feature.

This looks amazing: the phone hides notification content until you look at it:

Not trying to bash your enthusiasm, but what exactly is the value of having a page full of empty notifications before you look at it, and then having it animate out the filling of the notifications? You have nothing useful to see until after they are filled in. This kind of feels like a gimmick that doesn't really have much value. As a point of comparison, the Note 8 AOD gives you indicators that you have notifications before you even turn it on. I don't see that as much different than the long list of empty notifications on this... it actually looks cleaner and is visible without touching the phone.

 

[mib1800]

Yup. What impressed me the most was how informational the review was. For instance, I had no idea reachability was included with the software. This is the stuff I want to know about. I don't care about the friggin notch. Either it'll annoy me or I won't care about it. It's just not that important. Tell me about Face ID outside of whether it worked in a deli or whatever. Granted, the guy had the phone for a week vs.just 24 hours but let's be honest: that Verge review probably wouldn't read much different after a full week's worth of use.

Isn't reachability included in iOS 11? What's so surprising?

Don't worry face id will work most of the time without issue under normal circumstances. Just like face unlock in Galaxy, as long as your face is visible to the camera there will be no problem.

But you will be disappointed if you think it gives the same usability/convenience or a one-to-one replacement of the touchid.

- there are occasions when you face is not totally visible and you want to unlock
- there are occasions when your face is visible but you don't want to unlock (e.g pick phone up to put in pocket)
- light source is shining into camera
- there are more factors that can cause errors (make up/glasses/ambient) unlike touchid which is touch or no touch

It just the physical limitations of the face id technology which makes it less robust and less controllable than touchid.

 

[Zaft]

This is what separates IOS and Apples implementation. Notifications only appear when the Phone sees its you? Thats freaking awesome.
Apple seems to always nail the implementation and make it mainstream.

 

[AustinIllini]

This is what separates IOS and Apples implementation. Notifications only appear when the Phone sees its you? Thats freaking awesome.
Apple seems to always nail the implementation and make it mainstream.

Apple is definitely a hardware company. It's the opposite philosophy of say Google. Google does amazing things with software and puts it on pretty standard hardware. Apple pushes the envelope with better hardware tech because they have the hardware cash to do it. So yeah, that's super clever. On the other hand, your android device tells you at like 9 PM what the weather is going to be like tomorrow without much configuration. While iOS and iPhone are definitely more hardware and software savvy, Android direct from Google is significantly smarter on the software side.

 

[epicrayban]

In unusual step, Apple touts positive comments from early iPhone X reviews
https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/01/apple-iphone-x-reviews/


This is also interesting:

Why Apple short-circuited the media machine for iPhone X reviews
https://www.cultofmac.com/511357/apple-strategy-iphone-x-reviews/


New strategy from Apple with the iPhone X? Anyone else a little wary why Apple would short hand their usual reviewers, only giving them 24 hours? While giving the more amateur vloggers first and longer access?

It's a little weird...

 

[Tsepz]

This exactly what I picked up on yesterday as my YouTube main page got flooded with Unboxing and First Look videos, and the bigger guys mentioned they only had 24hours e.g. The Verge.

In unusual step, Apple touts positive comments from early iPhone X reviews
https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/01/apple-iphone-x-reviews/


This is also interesting:

Why Apple short-circuited the media machine for iPhone X reviews
https://www.cultofmac.com/511357/apple-strategy-iphone-x-reviews/


New strategy from Apple with the iPhone X? Anyone else a little wary why Apple would short hand their usual reviewers, only giving them 24 hours? While giving the more amateur vloggers first and longer access?

It's a little weird...

This exactly what I picked up on yesterday as my YouTube main page got flooded with Unboxing and First Look videos, and the bigger guys mentioned they only had 24hours e.g. The Verge.

Very interesting move by Apple, almost as if they aren't completely confident.

The Verge didn't really hold back, wonder if they'll get another early preview after this

 

[widgeteer]

Not trying to bash your enthusiasm, but what exactly is the value of having a page full of empty notifications before you look at it, and then having it animate out the filling of the notifications? You have nothing useful to see until after they are filled in. This kind of feels like a gimmick that doesn't really have much value. As a point of comparison, the Note 8 AOD gives you indicators that you have notifications before you even turn it on. I don't see that as much different than the long list of empty notifications on this... it actually looks cleaner and is visible without touching the phone.

If someone picks up your phone and you have raise to wake, they won't see the content of the messages. That's pretty useful. And the tech is cool as hell.

Are we still doing this thing where people insist their preferences are features and other people's preferences are gimmicks? You do realize most of the value add of the S-Pen can be defined as "4 different ways of cropping a screen shot", right?
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Isn't reachability included in iOS 11? What's so surprising?

Early reports were that the software running on it was stricly profiled to the regular sized iPhone, not the plus. Thus no reachability. This is evidently not the case.

Don't worry face id will work most of the time without issue under normal circumstances. Just like face unlock in Galaxy, as long as your face is visible to the camera there will be no problem.

But you will be disappointed if you think it gives the same usability/convenience or a one-to-one replacement of the touchid.

- there are occasions when you face is not totally visible and you want to unlock
- there are occasions when your face is visible but you don't want to unlock (e.g pick phone up to put in pocket)
- light source is shining into camera
- there are more factors that can cause errors (make up/glasses/ambient) unlike touchid which is touch or no touch

It just the physical limitations of the face id technology which makes it less robust and less controllable than touchid.

I don't know why unlocking my phone while putting it in my pocket is listed as a problem, but to each their own. It's a much more robust and smart tech than Samsung's face unlock.

If its fail rate is the same or better than Touch ID, I'm completely unconcerned about being disappointed.

 

[jamezr]

In unusual step, Apple touts positive comments from early iPhone X reviews
https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/01/apple-iphone-x-reviews/


This is also interesting:

Why Apple short-circuited the media machine for iPhone X reviews
https://www.cultofmac.com/511357/apple-strategy-iphone-x-reviews/


New strategy from Apple with the iPhone X? Anyone else a little wary why Apple would short hand their usual reviewers, only giving them 24 hours? While giving the more amateur vloggers first and longer access?

It's a little weird...

They are controlling the process of WHO gets to review the new iPhone X and for how long they have access to the phone before publishing their findings.

I am sure only a small select reviewers who have a history being Apple friendly got a phone to review.

 

[FFR]

They are controlling the process of WHO gets to review the new iPhone X and for how long they have access to the phone before publishing their findings.

I am sure only a small select reviewers who have a history being Apple friendly got a phone to review.

What’s the point?
phone launches day after tomorrow, and Anyone can post a review then.

 

[widgeteer]

What’s the point?
phone launches day after tomorrow, and Anyone can post a review then.

I was suspicious at first too but have come to your way of thinking. Apple really can't hide the phone if it sucks, and at this point they've already made god knows how much on preorders anyway. I think Apple is just trying to get the phone into the hands of influencers on social media because the tech bloggers only reach a limited audience. Who is more likely to generate interest in the product: some dork at The Verge or Mindy Kaling?

 

[jamezr]

I was suspicious at first too but have come to your way of thinking. Apple really can't hide the phone if it sucks, and at this point they've already made god knows how much on preorders anyway. I think Apple is just trying to get the phone into the hands of influencers on social media because the tech bloggers only reach a limited audience. Who is more likely to generate interest in the product: some dork at The Verge or Mindy Kaling?

I think it is more along the lines of Apple controlling the media and who gets to report and what they are going to say. They are controlling the message....and the messengers.
They can pretty much ensure the first reports are positive reviews this way.....