Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[AustinIllini]

I've been charged for mine!




I have a feeling I won't be flipping mine for enough profit to make it worth the trouble. Waiting to see if any of this changes after Nov 3rd. If it's a no go, I have no problem opening them to try what the "next generation" smartphone is supposed to feel like.

The Galaxy S6 is great on ebay. and it uses real services as an added bonus!

 

[FFR]

Just got tracking info for my X. Still can't believe I got Nov 3.

What color did you get?

 

[widgeteer]

What color did you get?

Silver. To my eye it "pops" as a device more than the space grey.

 

[convergent]

I want nothing to do with an Apple store when a new iPhone is launched. I would have taken a later shipping date if that was the only alternative to a Nov 3 in store pick up.

Agree... they seem to have the launch day thing worked out. If you have a reservation and pick up time it goes very quickly.

 

[FFR]

Silver. To my eye it "pops" as a device more than the space grey.

Congrats on the silver.
Nov 3 is a couple of days away

 

[epicrayban]

Early iPhone X impressions: https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/30/steven-levy-iphone-x-review/


Levy was impressed by the ‘Super Retina’ 5.8-inch OLED display in the body of a phone only slightly larger than a 4.7-inch iPhone 8. He also quickly adapted to the new swipe gestures that replace the home button, but hit some frictions with Face ID.

Levy says that Face ID works ‘pretty much’. He could not fool his iPhone X into being unlocked by other people, or a photograph of his own face.

However, he reports that the phone would not reliably work when he himself wanted to actually use it. At least in Levy’s case, it seems there was a learning curve in working out how to give the iPhone X his attention in order to allow it to authenticate.




Original article here:

THE FIRST FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE IPHONE X
https://www.wired.com/story/iphone-x-first-impression/

 

[widgeteer]

Agree... they seem to have the launch day thing worked out. If you have a reservation and pick up time it goes very quickly.

I'll take your word for it. Mostly the way I look at it is this: receiving something in the comfort of my home vs walking into a crowded store is the more palatable scenario.

 

[FFR]

Early iPhone X impressions: https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/30/steven-levy-iphone-x-review/


Levy was impressed by the ‘Super Retina’ 5.8-inch OLED display in the body of a phone only slightly larger than a 4.7-inch iPhone 8. He also quickly adapted to the new swipe gestures that replace the home button, but hit some frictions with Face ID.

Levy says that Face ID works ‘pretty much’. He could not fool his iPhone X into being unlocked by other people, or a photograph of his own face.

However, he reports that the phone would not reliably work when he himself wanted to actually use it. At least in Levy’s case, it seems there was a learning curve in working out how to give the iPhone X his attention in order to allow it to authenticate.




Original article here:

THE FIRST FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE IPHONE X
https://www.wired.com/story/iphone-x-first-impression/

Taxi driver, priceless.


“Eventually I devised a strategy. When waking my iPhone I think of it as De Niro’s mirror in Taxi Driver. You talkin’ to me? Well, I’m the only one here! I then see if the little lock icon on the screen has released its latch. Alternatively, a good way to see when you’ve been recognized is to notice the generic messages on the lock screen saying “you have a notification” from Facebook, Gmail, or wherever. When you and your iPhone X make that turn-on connection, those flesh out with the actual content of the message. (This feature—withholding potentially private alerts until the phone was unlocked—had previously been available as an option but now is the default.) In any case, once I got the hang of it, I found I could dial down the De Niro and get it to unlock more naturally, though I am still mystified that sometimes it goes straight to where I left off and other times asks me to swipe up. And I really liked Apple Pay with iPhone X—having to double-click on the side button and then use Face ID was a clearer way to do transactions.”

 

[widgeteer]

Taxi driver, priceless.


“Eventually I devised a strategy. When waking my iPhone I think of it as De Niro’s mirror in Taxi Driver. You talkin’ to me? Well, I’m the only one here! I then see if the little lock icon on the screen has released its latch. Alternatively, a good way to see when you’ve been recognized is to notice the generic messages on the lock screen saying “you have a notification” from Facebook, Gmail, or wherever. When you and your iPhone X make that turn-on connection, those flesh out with the actual content of the message. (This feature—withholding potentially private alerts until the phone was unlocked—had previously been available as an option but now is the default.) In any case, once I got the hang of it, I found I could dial down the De Niro and get it to unlock more naturally, though I am still mystified that sometimes it goes straight to where I left off and other times asks me to swipe up. And I really liked Apple Pay with iPhone X—having to double-click on the side button and then use Face ID was a clearer way to do transactions.”

The bit about making payments easier is interesting to me. It actually sounds a bit more cumbersome than how it's currently set up. Looking forward to seeing it in action.

 

[convergent]

I'll take your word for it. Mostly the way I look at it is this: receiving something in the comfort of my home vs walking into a crowded store is the more palatable scenario.

There is also a bit of excitement factor by getting it in the store on a launch day. Especially if you waltz in and get yours while other people are waiting in line! And in my case, I live far enough out from the city center that UPS and Fedex don't usually get to me until late in the day... sometimes as late as 7-8pm or later. So if I can go into a store and get it in the morning then I'd be happy to do it.

Lets face it, getting a new flagship phone is the closest thing to the feeling we had as a kid on Christmas morning as we can get!

 

[Frankied22]

Anyone planning on flipping theirs on craigslist?

 

[LukinLedbetter]

Anyone planning on flipping theirs on craigslist?

I am.

 

[Aneres11]

The Verge have posted a 'work in progress' review of the X.

It's an interesting read.

Seems like the biggest issues faced are apps not being optimised for the X screen so you end up with grey bars at the top and bottom of the screen and the app in the middle.
He mentioned about using some apps even now, that haven't been utilised for the iPhone 6's larger screen and that rang true with me as there were a couple I had on my 7 Plus that were the same. That wasn't great.

Things like Instagram stories have bars at the top and bottom, and some apps have buttons placed over thing in the top bar, like the time etc. Apparently they look good on the screen, until you realise they're just broken.

This is my biggest concern, and it's almost my wake up call to wait a bit on this one. The 'big' social apps like Instagram, FB, Twitter, WhatsApp, I'm sure will be updated sooner rather than later. But it would definitely be a jarring experience to have other apps that don't follow suit. I only say this with using an Essential phone currently, where lots of apps had the same (but not as bad) issue and never filled the screen. With Android though, you can get around that and now I have its fantastic, but waiting for app devleopers to sort this could become annoying.

Seems like FaceID is successful most of the time, but annoying that you have to pick the phone up when it's sat on your desk to unlock. Same with taking it out your pocket - it has to be held to your face unnaturally close than if you were to just take it out to unlock with your fingerprint. These are all pretty bothersome features (for me).

Lots to ponder, anyway.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/31/16579748/apple-iphone-x-review

 

[epicrayban]

Good read. Some highlights and thoughts:


The Verge knocks the notch, but also seems rather understanding of what would have been called a terrible thing on Android:

Landscape mode on the iPhone X is generally pretty messy: the notch goes from being a somewhat forgettable element in the top status bar to a giant interruption on the side of the screen, and I haven’t seen any apps really solve for it yet. And the home bar at the bottom of the screen often sits over the top of content, forever reminding you that you can swipe to go home and exit the chaos of landscape mode forever.

I’m sure all of this will get solved over time, but recent history suggests it might take longer than Apple or anyone would like; I still encounter apps that aren’t updated for the larger iPhone 6 screen sizes. 3D Touch has been around for years, but I can’t think of any app that makes particularly good use of it. Apple’s rolled out a lot of screen design changes over the years, and they take a while to settle in. We’ll just have to see how it goes with the iPhone X.

Just have to "see how it goes." That's rather forgiving. If this was an Android phone, I don't think we'd strike such a casual tone. The notch sounds pretty terrible.


The comments about Face ID are also a little worrisome. It sounds like there will be times where it'll be inconsistent or miss. I think Apple's refusal to keep Touch ID, even on the back, will be a sore point for some...


He also goes on to talk about a few software inconsistencies both with 3DT and the overall software experience:

... That pane also has buttons for the flashlight and camera; in a twist, they require 3D Touch to work, so they feel like real buttons. It’s neat, but also breaks the 3D Touch paradigm — it’s the only place the entire system where 3D Touch acts like a left click instead of a right click. It’s emblematic of how generally fuzzy iOS has become with basic interface concepts, I think.

Switching apps is fun and simple: you can either swipe up and hold to bring up all your apps in a card-like deck, or just quickly swipe left and right on the home bar to bounce through them one at a time.

And… those are basically the changes to iOS 11 on the iPhone X, apart from the various notch-related kerfuffles. If you’ve been using iOS for a while and iOS 11 for the past month, nothing here will surprise you. Apple might have completely rethought how you unlock the iPhone X, but it’s still not giving up on that grid of app icons or making notifications more powerful or even allowing the weather app icon to display a live temperature. Siri is still Siri. If you’re buying an iPhone X expecting a radical change to your iPhone experience, well, you probably won’t get it.

I really wish he'd call this out more instead of being so casual about it; Apple needs to rethink iOS. Considering how stable yet powerful yet flexible Android has come, iOS needs to step up on the software side. If this was Android, these inconsistencies would be far less forgivable.

Overall, a very interesting early review. My two iPhone X are expected to arrive Nov 3rd. If they don't get sold, I'm definitely opening one up to test!

 

[widgeteer]

I’m not thrilled Apple only allowed reviewers 24 hours with the phone. Almost like a movie studio that doesn’t allow a critic’s screening before opening day.

For me the biggest interest is FaceID. If it’s problematic in any instances where TouchID worked, that will be a deal breaker. I am not going back to using pin codes some of the time just to use a brand new tech most of the time.

 

[epicrayban]

I’m not thrilled Apple only allowed reviewers 24 hours with the phone. Almost like a movie studio that doesn’t allow a critic’s screening before opening day.

For me the biggest interest is FaceID. If it’s problematic in any instances where TouchID worked, that will be a deal breaker. I am not going back to using pin codes some of the time just to use a brand new tech most of the time.

Yeah, odd about the 24 hour thing.

After watching the Verge video, I'm really concerned about Face ID in the sun or in, like they say, oddly florescent lighting where the Face ID is much less consistent. That sounds frustrating.

 

[lowendlinux]

Yeah, odd about the 24 hour thing.

After watching the Verge video, I'm really concerned about Face ID in the sun or in, like they say, oddly florescent lighting where the Face ID is much less consistent. That sounds frustrating.

I have a feeling it'll get better as it learns your face. The more times you open with your face especially at different angles and lighting it's probably learning

 

[epicrayban]

Here's Engadget: https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/31/apple-iphone-x-day-1-preview/

Apple iPhone X, Day 1: The future is surprisingly familiar


[doublepost=1509456399][/doublepost]Reviews so far are unanimous about how much they enjoy the more bezel-less design not just aesthetically, but for the experience, too.

Just like many of us have been saying for some time now.

A larger mass of people will finally understand why a larger screen in a smaller body is, and has always been, a better and more immersive experience that is still ergonomically friendly to one-hand use.

Like phablets before this, welcome to the future that Samsung paved.

 

[AustinIllini]

Here's Engadget: https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/31/apple-iphone-x-day-1-preview/

Apple iPhone X, Day 1: The future is surprisingly familiar


[doublepost=1509456399][/doublepost]Reviews so far are unanimous about how much they enjoy the more bezel-less design not just aesthetically, but for the experience, too.

Just like many of us have been saying for some time now.

A larger mass of people will finally understand why a larger screen in a smaller body is, and has always been, a better and more immersive experience that is still ergonomically friendly to one-hand use.

Like phablets before this, welcome to the future that Samsung paved.

Also, the consensus appears to be that FaceID is okay.

Rene Ritchie is reporting blueshift on his device. In fact, the OLED has drawn some remarks from multiple users (mostly because the saturated OLEDs on Samsung have become the de facto standard).

Also, it would appear multiple reviews are reporting that the notch is super weird and, while they can live with it, it does really weird things to landscape mode.

 

[epicrayban]

Also, the consensus appears to be that FaceID is okay.

Rene Ritchie is reporting blueshift on his device. In fact, the OLED has drawn some remarks from multiple users (mostly because the saturated OLEDs on Samsung have become the de facto standard).

I laugh anytime that name is brought up.

 

[AustinIllini]

I laugh anytime that name is brought up.

I'm surprised he didn't say "Unapologetically blue".

 

[widgeteer]

Also, the consensus appears to be that FaceID is okay.

Rene Ritchie is reporting blueshift on his device. In fact, the OLED has drawn some remarks from multiple users (mostly because the saturated OLEDs on Samsung have become the de facto standard).

Also, it would appear multiple reviews are reporting that the notch is super weird and, while they can live with it, it does really weird things to landscape mode.

The phone sounds like a disaster in landscape.

 

[epicrayban]

I really thought Face ID would leap frog the current technology, but if it's not fully reliable all the time, and it doesn't have Touch ID as a back up, then that's quite disappointing.

I'm glad Samsung kept the FPS, even if it isn't in an ideal location.

Face ID comes at the expense of the screen experience, too, in the form of the iconic notch.

 

[AustinIllini]

The phone sounds like a disaster in landscape.

Nilay Patel described it as a "mess". I would say it's a little wonky based on what little I have seen.

I really thought Face ID would leap frog the current technology, but if it's not fully reliable all the time, and it doesn't have Touch ID as a back up, then that's quite disappointing.

I'm glad Samsung kept the FPS, even if it isn't in an ideal location.

Face ID comes at the expense of the screen experience, too, in the form of the iconic notch.

No TouchID backup, but I believe true two factor cannot be two biometric measures, so I understand why Apple only did one.

 

[widgeteer]

I really thought Face ID would leap frog the current technology, but if it's not fully reliable all the time, and it doesn't have Touch ID as a back up, then that's quite disappointing.

I'm glad Samsung kept the FPS, even if it isn't in an ideal location.

Face ID comes at the expense of the screen experience, too, in the form of the iconic notch.

I'm not going there yet. If FaceID has the same failure rate as TouchID, then it's going to be better than TouchID. If it's worse, then of course that sucks and would be a step back.

The Notch is going to come down to preference. It's going to be polarizing for sure.