Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[epicrayban]

I believe the Edge has also made it okay to have a slightly thicker device, the S7 Edge is thicker than the S6 was, yet nobody battered an eyelid.

Yep. And in fact, it felt more comfortable and ergonomic to hold.
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Who else at this point offers a curved screen besides Samsung?

I guess not much, but with Samsung going full tilt and now with Apple joining, I think there will be more in 2017. I could be wrong though. I wouldn't knock Google for keeping things flat. I said the same thing in the Pixel thread.

They just have to marry Samsung-like hardware (better design, less bezels, wireless charging, waterproofing), Google software (obviously), and Apple-like updates (which it more or less already is). And you'll have a winner with the Pixel 2.

 

[Tsepz]

Yep. And in fact, it felt more comfortable and ergonomic to hold.

Indeed! The S6 Edge was quite uncomfortable to hold, even though it was the one to go for then due to its larger battery.

It's good to see how Samsung has managed to refine the edge over the years since the Galaxy Note Edge

 

[Radon87000]

Who else at this point offers a curved screen besides Samsung?

Huawei Mate 9 Pro

 

[tbayrgs]

Yep. And in fact, it felt more comfortable and ergonomic to hold.
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I guess not much, but with Samsung going full tilt and now with Apple joining, I think there will be more in 2017. I could be wrong though. I wouldn't knock Google for keeping things flat. I said the same thing in the Pixel thread.

They just have to marry Samsung-like hardware (better design, less bezels, wireless charging, waterproofing), Google software (obviously), and Apple-like updates (which it more or less already is). And you'll have a winner with the Pixel 2.

They certainly could be going curved as well but I believe I've read a few different rumors claiming they were sticking with flat. Considering how difficult it appears to be to secure inventory of quality curved displays, I've got my fingers crossed for a flat display.

If the entire industry does indeed shift to flat, I'll just have to learn to live with it.

 

[epicrayban]

They certainly could be going curved as well but I believe I've read a few different rumors claiming they were sticking with flat. Considering how difficult it appears to be to secure inventory of quality curved displays, I've got my fingers crossed for a flat display.

If the entire industry does indeed shift to flat, I'll just have to learn to live with it.

And curved screens will only get better over time.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'd welcome an OLED screen in an iPhone just so long as it doesn't affect battery life. The biggest complain of people I know with an S7 is they have had to disable so much to get the battery to last. I am the type of person that has screen brightness to about 20% so I like a dim screen anyway.

 

[Radon87000]

I'd welcome an OLED screen in an iPhone just so long as it doesn't affect battery life. The biggest complain of people I know with an S7 is they have had to disable so much to get the battery to last. I am the type of person that has screen brightness to about 20% so I like a dim screen anyway.

iOS will probably get a dark mode to get around that weakness anyway

 

[Oohara]

S7 Edge was too curved for my liking. The less extreme curves on the Note 7 were what made me warm to curved screens in general. Hoping that the S8 phones will be like that or with even sharper curves, and the next iPhone too.

Optimal curvature for me would be like that of the 2.5D glass on the current iPhones but with the display continuing out all the way to the edge.

 

[epicrayban]

Even Apple seems to prefer OLED. 7S will retain LCD due to lack of OLED supplies unfortunately.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/16/appl...oled-panel-production-this-year-for-iphone-8/

Apple estimated to grab 14% of OLED panel production this year for iPhone 8


This is being dubbed ‘iPhone 8’ thanks to its dramatic improvement in design and feature set, although final branding is not known. Apple is also expected to launch two modest updates to the current 4.7-inch iPhone 7 and 5.5-inch iPhone 7 Plus with the same chassis, same display, and a focus on internal component upgrades.

Apple apparently wants to use OLED on its entire iPhone range by 2019.



Obviously there are conflicting rumors this early, but if Apple really doesn't give the 7S models at least wireless charging this year, well, 7S buyers get shafted even more.

 

[spinedoc77]

Speaking of displays... https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/15/iphone-8-curved-oled-report/

Nikkei: iPhone 8 OLED display curves to be ‘gentler’ than Samsung’s, offer no new functions

Nikkei Asian Review has new reporting on how Apple plans to implement the rumored curved OLED display on the new iPhone models. The summary is that the curve won’t be as dramatic as on Samsung’s Galaxy S7 Edge smartphones and will be purely for visual effect rather than offering new features.


I always said, one of the best things about the Edge display on the S7E was how it made everything visually pop. It gave off this almost 3D effect, where the contents of your screen felt like it was floating above the device. I also said that it helped with things like slide out menus -- the curves just made it feel more natural. In fact, I argued that the software features of the Edge were the least interesting things about it.

To me, the strength of the curve display was always on the hardware-side: Beautiful designs; allows for far more ergonomic phablets; makes things on the screen pop; and makes sliding menus out feel more natural.

And now Apple could be looking to achieve the same effect.

I always felt the curved screens were a weakness on Samsungs, just my opinion. They decreased the usable screen size, distorted whatever was in the curve, were susceptible to false touches, etc. That's why I highly appreciate LG's G6 design, this is the way it should be, maybe with even less or no bezel at all though. Having used the S7 edge, the Note edge and the Note 7 extensively I can honestly say if I never saw a curved screen ever again I'd be happy. Interestingly enough I feel the Note edge had the best use of a curved screen because it was the steepest curve, it was actually functional. Still not my cup of tea, but at least it had a reason to exist.

I have a feeling Apple will mainly incorporate a very subtle curve just for looks, but the screen won't actually extend onto the curve, which is the right way to do it IMO.
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S7 Edge was too curved for my liking. The less extreme curves on the Note 7 were what made me warm to curved screens in general. Hoping that the S8 phones will be like that or with even sharper curves, and the next iPhone too.

Optimal curvature for me would be like that of the 2.5D glass on the current iPhones but with the display continuing out all the way to the edge.

This would be perfect IMO. Apple doesn't need to change anything from the current iPhone curvature, just push the screen all the way out.

 

[tbayrgs]

Even Apple seems to prefer OLED. 7S will retain LCD due to lack of OLED supplies unfortunately.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/16/appl...oled-panel-production-this-year-for-iphone-8/

Apple estimated to grab 14% of OLED panel production this year for iPhone 8


This is being dubbed ‘iPhone 8’ thanks to its dramatic improvement in design and feature set, although final branding is not known. Apple is also expected to launch two modest updates to the current 4.7-inch iPhone 7 and 5.5-inch iPhone 7 Plus with the same chassis, same display, and a focus on internal component upgrades.

Apple apparently wants to use OLED on its entire iPhone range by 2019.



Obviously there are conflicting rumors this early, but if Apple really doesn't give the 7S models at least wireless charging this year, well, 7S buyers get shafted even more.

I understand the point you're making but nobody is forcing anyone to buy a 7S so they're purchasing with eyes wide open. Anyone who buys one should clearly understand what they're buying and be fine with any missing functionality. Getting shafted would be Apple doing something like releasing a revised 7S a few months later WITH wireless charging.

This supply shortage is also why I don't expect the Pixel 2 to have a curved OLED display either.

 

[epicrayban]

I always felt the curved screens were a weakness on Samsungs, just my opinion. They decreased the usable screen size, distorted whatever was in the curve, were susceptible to false touches, etc. That's why I highly appreciate LG's G6 design, this is the way it should be, maybe with even less or no bezel at all though. Having used the S7 edge, the Note 5 edge and the Note 7 extensively I can honestly say if I never saw a curved screen ever again I'd be happy.

I have a feeling Apple will mainly incorporate a very subtle curve just for looks, but the screen won't actually extend onto the curve, which is the right way to do it IMO.
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This would be perfect IMO. Apple doesn't need to change anything from the current iPhone curvature, just push the screen all the way out.

While I'm not bothered by what you describe (I honestly just forget about the curvatures and get lost in my content), I do agree the screen curvature doesn't need to be so pronounced. Even Samsung is walking back the curve, as they did with the Note 7. I'm assuming that for the S8, they will be using a similarly refined curve.

As for Apple, it looks like they're aiming to have even slighter curves, which, to your point, will keep people wary of curved screens happy. As long as they achieve the same effect that I described -- making the content pop and feel "above" the device. That, along with the ergonomics, has always been the greater benefit to me.



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I understand the point you're making but nobody is forcing anyone to buy a 7S so they're purchasing with eyes wide open. Anyone who buys one should clearly understand what they're buying an be fine with any missing functionality. Getting shafted would be Apple doing something like releasing a revised 7S a few months later WITH wireless charging.

This supply shortage is also why I don't expect the Pixel to have a curved OLED display either.

Yep, I assume they know what they're getting into and won't feel "shafted," but I'm sure you know what I mean. It's still a shame that a 2017 flagship phone is going to be missing features that will become more standard this year and, in some cases, have been standard for some time now. But as I've said, Apple operates on a different timetable, and clearly many people are fine with that.

Very realistic prediction about the Pixel 2. I think you're right.

 

[spinedoc77]

While I'm not bothered by what you describe (I honestly just forget about the curvatures and get lost in my content), I do agree the screen curvature doesn't need to be so pronounced. Even Samsung is walking back the curve, as they did with the Note 7. I'm assuming that for the S8, they will be using a similarly refined curve.

As for Apple, it looks like they're aiming to have even slighter curves, which, to your point, will keep people wary of curved screens happy. As long as they achieve the same effect that I described -- making the content pop and feel "above" the device.

Yeah, just different perspectives. I can appreciate those liking the curve, it's really just personal preference. I do like having variety and even though IMO curved screens are flawed, their technology will continue to improve and we will eventually have a refined product that makes most happy, that's how technology works. So I suppose somewhere in the middle, which is what you are also describing.

But I'm still holding out for that foldable phone, hehe. Anything else at this point is just crumbs for me.

 

[epicrayban]

Yeah, just different perspectives. I can appreciate those liking the curve, it's really just personal preference. I do like having variety and even though IMO curved screens are flawed, their technology will continue to improve and we will eventually have a refined product that makes most happy, that's how technology works. So I suppose somewhere in the middle, which is what you are also describing.

But I'm still holding out for that foldable phone, hehe. Anything else at this point is just crumbs for me.

Curves or not, I have no doubt the iPhone 8 will be gorgeous. It'll be refreshing to see Apple finally step up their design game, which in my opinion, has been lagging behind for years now.

Unfortunately -- and again, this is where 7S buyers might get "shafted" @tbayrgs -- if the 7S Plus is the only phablet device that Apple will offer in 2017, with no design changes or improvements to its bezels and ergonomics, it's still going to look painfully embarrassing next to phablets like the G6, S8, Note 8, and who knows what else this year. As I said before, it'll effectively be a three-year old design going into its fourth year.

That's what I mean about being on a different timetable. Who else can pull this off but Apple.

 

[tbayrgs]

Curves or not, I have no doubt the iPhone 8 will be gorgeous. It'll be refreshing to see Apple finally step up their design game, which in my opinion, has been lagging behind for years now.

Unfortunately -- and again, this is where 7S buyers might get "shafted" @tbayrgs -- if the 7S Plus is the only phablet device that Apple will offer in 2017, with no design changes or improvements to its bezels and ergonomics, it's still going to look painfully embarrassing next to phablets like the G6, S8, Note 8, and who knows what else this year.

It's semantics, but I'd phrase it as us Apple large phone fans are getting shafted.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It's semantics, but I'd phrase it as us Apple large phone fans are getting shafted.

I will feel shafted if the iPhone 8/X/ edition only has 5.1 inches of usable screen.

 

[Michael Goff]

I will feel shafted if the iPhone 8/X/ edition only has 5.1 inches of usable screen.

Why? It's .4" more while apparently being in the same frame.

 

[Macist]

The ecosystem was really cool a few years back but as I'll have to go Windows due to lack of a serious Mac Pro and Mac laptop for sensible money for work once I'm off Mac I doubt I'll care too much about iPads, iPhones and all the rest of the crap.

I thought this would happen if Apple went tits up. Not due to sheer boardroom idiocy when it was one of the world's hugest companies.

I first had a Mac in 97 so it's a nice round 20 years to leave. Sad.

 

[tbayrgs]

Why? It's .4" more while apparently being in the same frame.

Maybe because it's 0.4" less than display the iPhone Plus model she and many of us are using now. Or because the upcoming S8 will have 0.7" more usable display in a package barely larger than the iPhone.

If you're an iOS fan and want a larger display, the only choice will be already outdated hardware.

 

[Michael Goff]

Maybe because it's 0.4" less than display the iPhone Plus model she and many of us are using now. Or because the upcoming S8 will have 0.7" more usable display in a package barely larger than the iPhone.

If you're an iOS fan and want a larger display, the only choice will be already outdated hardware.

You mean outdated design, right? I doubt they're going to keep the same hardware.

 

[The Game 161]

Why? It's .4" more while apparently being in the same frame.

Less screen for plus users which in a big phone market seems stupid to me

 

[Michael Goff]

Less screen for plus users which in a big phone market seems stupid to me

Didn't say it wasn't stupid, but I don't think Plus users are "being shafted".

 

[The Game 161]

Didn't say it was great, but I don't think Plus users are "being shafted".

I do personally, if you want the OLED screen you need to downgrade screen size

For the 4.7 users? Seems like a great deal but not the plus users

 

[tbayrgs]

You mean outdated design, right? I doubt they're going to keep the same hardware.

Yes, design but I'd also argue hardware. Likely same display as older models, lower display ppi vs its competition AND probably vs. its high end model (God, I hope so) without wireless charging. So yes, may have a new CPU but vs. the newest, high end model, it's outdated hardware.

 

[Michael Goff]

I do personally, if you want the OLED screen you need to downgrade screen size

For the 4.7 users? Seems like a great deal but not the plus users

Maybe it's just my horrible eyes, but I find the 7 Plus screen to be really good (even next to an S6 and HP Elite X3)
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Yes, design but I'd also argue hardware. Likely same display as older models, lower display ppi vs its competition AND probably vs. it's high end model (God, I hope so) without wireless charging. So yes, may have a new CPU but vs. the newest, high end model, it's outdated hardware.

So they should increase the resolution for bigger numbers? And I still don't see the point of inductive charging on a phone.