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Are you going to switch?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 24.8%
  • No, staying with iPhone

    Votes: 175 47.2%
  • No, I'll go with another platform

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Considering it

    Votes: 101 27.2%

  • Total voters
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lowendlinux

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Thanks.

Also, to prove a point my cat just knocked a set of plugs out of the socket. :|

Wireless charging doesn't seem all that great at first blush but it's one of the things I miss in my Pixel. I had a stand on my desk at work, my apartment, and home as well as on in the car. Just plop the thing on and go about life
 

Fille84

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I don't know about all Apple customers, clearly some have stated they are "not desperate " for oled. As far as profits, yep Apple can see sea water to the fish, but that's another conversation.

Yeah.. exactly what is so great about oled? Is it just the blacks? Is it the way oversaturated colors? Or what is it.. i don't see it.
 
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Oohara

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Yeah.. exactly what is so great about oled? Is it just the blacks? Is it the way oversaturated colors? Or what is it.. i don't see it.
To me the image just looks more organic. Like if you're watching a movie with an outdoors shot, the nature is just more lifelike. It can add that extra something that makes a photo go from very nice to stunning. Also I feel very quickly when using Kindle on my 7 Plus (white text on black background) that the eyes get more tired reading on an LCD display.

There's just a touch of magic to OLED that LCD doesn't have, IMO.
 

Fille84

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To me the image just looks more organic. Like if you're watching a movie with an outdoors shot, the nature is just more lifelike. It can add that extra something that makes a photo go from very nice to stunning. Also I feel very quickly when using Kindle on my 7 Plus (white text on black background) that the eyes get more tired reading on an LCD display.

There's just a touch of magic to OLED that LCD doesn't have, IMO.
Never seen an OLED with good whitepoint though. And I wish they could tone down the colors a bit, its just too much.
 

MRU

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Never seen an OLED with good whitepoint though. And I wish they could tone down the colors a bit, its just too much.

You can in separate settings. On Samsung you go into settings - display - change to basic mode. This puts the display into SRGB mode and makes it colour accurate and less saturated.

It's important to note that the great reviews / accuracy scores that Samsung gets from display mate are all contingent on 'basic' mode and not the default adaptive mode.

On a pixel or XL, settings, developer options, SRGB mode.

Same thing ... accurate and less saturated colours.
 

Fille84

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You can in separate settings. On Samsung you go into settings - display - change to basic mode. This puts the display into SRGB mode and makes it colour accurate and less saturated.

It's important to note that the great reviews / accuracy scores that Samsung gets from display mate are all contingent on 'basic' mode and not the default adaptive mode.

On a pixel or XL, settings, developer options, SRGB mode.

Same thing ... accurate and less saturated colours.
Yes. But the basic mode makes the colors too dull ;) And the whitepoint goes very much to the yellow side. Honestly I think iPhone have a perfect screen, the colors are well balanced and the white is very accurate. I Also think the black is pretty good too for being a LCD.
 
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Radon87000

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Yes. But the basic mode makes the colors too dull ;) And the whitepoint goes very much to the yellow side. Honestly I think iPhone have a perfect screen, the colors are well balanced and the white is very accurate. I Also think the black is pretty good too for being a LCD.
They are not dull. Its just that after seeing the vibrant colors on that screen you get the impression they are dull. My Tab S2 and iPad have similar color reproduction on basic mode.

With iOS being the only OS to support wide color OLEDs would have better color accuracy than on Android which is a bonus
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There's just a touch of magic to OLED that LCD doesn't have, IMO.

Exactly.It just feels nicer to look at and thats something no spec sheet or accuracy meter will capture
 
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spinedoc77

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Yeah.. exactly what is so great about oled? Is it just the blacks? Is it the way oversaturated colors? Or what is it.. i don't see it.

Another plus is always on display, which I HIGHLY miss having gone back to an iPhone. I agree with the others that the colors on OLED just look more colorful and vibrant, it's hard to describe. My ip7+ has a great screen, but it's always jarring to me when I switch back to a Samsung just how much nicer the screen looks.
 

epicrayban

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Another plus is always on display, which I HIGHLY miss having gone back to an iPhone. I agree with the others that the colors on OLED just look more colorful and vibrant, it's hard to describe. My ip7+ has a great screen, but it's always jarring to me when I switch back to a Samsung just how much nicer the screen looks.

Always on display is particularly lovely on a wireless charging stand.

I, too, prefer OLED and Samsung panels. For that matter, I also prefer Samsung's camera/photo post-processing. I like that my pictures look vibrant and colorful. It pops. People are always adding filters and whatnot to their photos to post on social media. With Samsung, I sometimes don't even have to bother. I once shared photos from a trip I took here, none of those photos had any filters added to them, and they all looked fantastic. It's gotten to the point where I find my iPhone pics, while good, rather dull and muted. Last time I was with a group of coworkers taking photos, everyone commented on how my photos looked so much better than theirs (iPhones). I still had the S7E at the time.

Anyway, even Apple is looking to go OLED. They would get it into their entire flagship lineup this year if they could.
 
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MRU

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At the moment there are no definitive bests between OLED and LCD due to the difference in sub pixel arrays. Each has their strengths and weaknesses.

Frankly it boils down to subjective preferences at the moment, there is no clear out and out winner.

BUT when full RGB OLED finally hits the market and clearly it's taking longer to do so then many thought it would (production and yield must be more technically difficult than either LCD or OLED current) then we will have finally a definitive screen technology. All the best from both display tech in one.

Until then, this bickering between all of you all is redundant as it's based solely on subjective opinion and not definitives ...

Hopefully we will finally see the emergence of RGB OLED at the end of this year ... But don't hold your breath.
 
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I don't understand why people obsess over an SRGB panel with "true colours" on a phone. On a computer I agree it might be needed for content creation but on a smartphone that is just a media device it makes no sense. We take our phones everywhere, we take photos everywhere, we consume media on our phones either watching videos or playing games. It's a joy to consume media on an OLED display. So tell me where is the benefit of an LCD with "true life colours"? Just so you can brag about that? Once most of the Apple fanboys who bash OLED try it they won't want to go back. This also happened when Android phones where getting bigger and Apple kept the 4" screen size and the fanboys said it was perfect but when Apple increased the size every Apple fanboy agreed it was the perfect size and now they can't go back to 4".
 

icemanbrfc

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I don't understand why people obsess over an SRGB panel with "true colours" on a phone. On a computer I agree it might be needed for content creation but on a smartphone that is just a media device it makes no sense. We take our phones everywhere, we take photos everywhere, we consume media on our phones either watching videos or playing games. It's a joy to consume media on an OLED display. So tell me where is the benefit of an LCD with "true life colours"? Just so you can brag about that? Once most of the Apple fanboys who bash OLED try it they won't want to go back. This also happened when Android phones where getting bigger and Apple kept the 4" screen size and the fanboys said it was perfect but when Apple increased the size every Apple fanboy agreed it was the perfect size and now they can't go back to 4".
It was more Steve Jobs who brainwashed those who bought into Apple regarding size of the phone. Whatever Jobs said, that was taken as gospel.its still pretty much the same today, but not as bad as what it use to be.
 

Tsepz

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I don't understand why people obsess over an SRGB panel with "true colours" on a phone. On a computer I agree it might be needed for content creation but on a smartphone that is just a media device it makes no sense. We take our phones everywhere, we take photos everywhere, we consume media on our phones either watching videos or playing games. It's a joy to consume media on an OLED display. So tell me where is the benefit of an LCD with "true life colours"? Just so you can brag about that? Once most of the Apple fanboys who bash OLED try it they won't want to go back. This also happened when Android phones where getting bigger and Apple kept the 4" screen size and the fanboys said it was perfect but when Apple increased the size every Apple fanboy agreed it was the perfect size and now they can't go back to 4".
The whole iPhone screen size increase situation was truly hilarious.

I remember when they claimed that a Display does not need to be larger than 3.5inch, now the smallest iPhone is a 4inch display one, LOL. And the largest screen iPhone is larger than Androids with larger Displays than it has, making it all even more rather amusing, so inefficient.

But this thing of "I don't need that feature that Android has" is a long time thing done by Apple fanboys

There was a time when iPhone only had 2G and 2.5G (EDGE) while other Smartphones when even low end Smartphones were coming with 3G and 3.5G (HDSPA+ & HSUPA), the fanboys did not need 3G they claimed.

At this same time the iPhone also did not support video recording or have an Autofocusing Camera, they claimed none of that was needed either.


I've become used to reading "We do not need that Android feature" and then years later they get it and praise it.

It's just how things are I guess. Lol.
 
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The Game 161

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The whole iPhone screen size increase situation was truly hilarious.

I remember when they claimed that a Display does not need to be larger than 3.5inch, now the smallest iPhone is a 4inch display one, LOL. And the largest screen iPhone is larger than Androids with larger Displays than it has, making it all even more rather amusing, so inefficient.

But this thing of "I don't need that feature that Android has" is a long time thing done by Apple fanboys

There was a time when iPhone only had 2G and 2.5G (EDGE) while other Smartphones when even low end Smartphones were coming with 3G and 3.5G (HDSPA+ & HSUPA), the fanboys did not need 3G they claimed.

At this same time the iPhone also did not support video recording or have an Autofocusing Camera, they claimed none of that was needed either.


I've become used to reading "We do not need that Android feature" and then years later they get it and praise it.

It's just how things are I guess. Lol.
I have all apple products but I'm a techy first.

It is funny what people come out with. What makes things worse is apple likely calling the iphone 8 special edition when really the main features we will see have been on android for years. OLED,Wireless charging, water resistance P68 and it will likely cost 100-150 more expensive.
 
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Fille84

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I don't understand why people obsess over an SRGB panel with "true colours" on a phone. On a computer I agree it might be needed for content creation but on a smartphone that is just a media device it makes no sense. We take our phones everywhere, we take photos everywhere, we consume media on our phones either watching videos or playing games. It's a joy to consume media on an OLED display. So tell me where is the benefit of an LCD with "true life colours"? Just so you can brag about that? Once most of the Apple fanboys who bash OLED try it they won't want to go back. This also happened when Android phones where getting bigger and Apple kept the 4" screen size and the fanboys said it was perfect but when Apple increased the size every Apple fanboy agreed it was the perfect size and now they can't go back to 4".
No. I prefer LCD on Androids too. The best looking screen Ive had on an Android is the one on Nexus 5X.
 

Tsepz

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I am watching more and more new series on my phones these days, and I must say having an AMOLED Display makes it truly enjoyable.

Having watched a few Netflix shows like Sense8, it seems a lot of them are shot in a way where the producers want colours to pop and with high contrast, bright colours on dark backgrounds etc...

I am now watching AMC's Into The Badlands, this show us truly spectacular on an AMOLED display, makes my S7 Edge look like one of those TVs playing high quality videos in the stores.

I'd hate watch any of these shows on a normal LCD, I've had a go at both a LG V20 and iPhone 7 Plus, and both displays are rather on the dull side, doubt I would enjoy media consumption on them now that I have experienced AMOLED.


I have all apple products but I'm a techy first.

It is funny what people come out with. What makes things worse is apple likely calling the iphone 8 special edition when really the main features we will see have been on android for years. OLED,Wireless charging, water resistance P68 and it will likely cost 100-150 more expensive.

Indeed!

You know what else was funny, not long ago we had Apple Fanboys down here claiming that Apple would have some new type of Wireless Charging, that wouldn't require a pad, now it seems their implementation will be the same as any Android manufacturers.

When it comes to iPhone launches I think we need to think less about what it will bring and rather what other useful feature will Apple remove which they will then provide an adapter for and still call themselves courageous for removing..... Despite putting the adapter in the box......When they could have have just kept the feature.....A feature that really didn't really have to be removed.
 

MRU

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I don't understand why people obsess over an SRGB panel with "true colours" on a phone. On a computer I agree it might be needed for content creation but on a smartphone that is just a media device it makes no sense. We take our phones everywhere, we take photos everywhere, we consume media on our phones either watching videos or playing games. It's a joy to consume media on an OLED display. So tell me where is the benefit of an LCD with "true life colours"? Just so you can brag about that? Once most of the Apple fanboys who bash OLED try it they won't want to go back. This also happened when Android phones where getting bigger and Apple kept the 4" screen size and the fanboys said it was perfect but when Apple increased the size every Apple fanboy agreed it was the perfect size and now they can't go back to 4".


So much inaccuracy in this post.

1. Those who subjectively prefer LCD are not all iPhone users. Fact is the majority of Android devices use LCD than Amoled.

2. Colour accuracy is not contingent on LCD or Amoled as there are many examples of LCD whose colour gamut has been adjusted to boost saturation or appearance. Likewise there are examples of Amoled who either have been calibrated or offer the calibration to make them more accurate.

3. Preferring over saturation is a subjective issue and subjectivity is not something you can use to scientifically metric a range of devices. There is nothing wrong if you prefer over saturation but don't assume your preference invalidates the truer colour accuracy used to metric displays. It's the reason why Display mate use 'basic' mode on the Samsung Super Amoled panels and rate them so highly. Accuracy is something that can be measured and validated and that's why it's more important than subjective preferences for over saturation.

4. Drop the fanboy nonsense. I repeat point 1, that there are more android phones with LCD displays than Amoled. Turning everything into a juvenile iphone vs Android trash talk with name calling does nothing to further any discussion.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I am watching more and more new series on my phones these days, and I must say having an AMOLED Display makes it truly enjoyable.

Having watched a few Netflix shows like Sense8, it seems a lot of them are shot in a way where the producers want colours to pop and with high contrast, bright colours on dark backgrounds etc...

I am now watching AMC's Into The Badlands, this show us truly spectacular on an AMOLED display, makes my S7 Edge look like one of those TVs playing high quality videos in the stores.

I'd hate watch any of these shows on a normal LCD, I've had a go at both a LG V20 and iPhone 7 Plus, and both displays are rather on the dull side, doubt I would enjoy media consumption on them now that I have experienced AMOLED.
My television is a 4K LCD and we watch it everyday, including stuff on Netflix. Unlike yourself I don't stress that my experience is not enjoyable because I haven't forked out 2 grand on an OLED version. It's just not worth worrying about. The TV is also made by LG to avoid the 'fanboy' label littered throughout the rest of your post. I'm sure you only reserve it for mobile phone owners though.

LCD is absolutely fine on a phone and the colour representation is good in my experience. The whites don't glow green when viewed from the sides and if the black is slightly grey at times I can deal with that. If the iPhone eventually uses OLED then that's great, I don't really care. If the next one has an LCD then great too. The screens up until now have not been crap despite the overanalysing that often goes on here.
 

Radon87000

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I just wish the iPhone 7 had OLED because thats the major feature on the new iPhone I care about the most.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I just wish the iPhone 7 had OLED because thats the major feature on the new iPhone I care about the most.
I'd rather they focus more on the software. That essentially what I'm paying for above anything else. Personally I don't watch movies on my phone or media that requires such a vibrant screen. If it comes with one then great, but like many I'd probably put it in basic mode with the brightness down anyway. I just hope if they implement an OLED, they do it better than we've seen already as I feel LCD on the iPhone takes a lot to be beaten in colour representation.
 

apolloa

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The whole iPhone screen size increase situation was truly hilarious.

I remember when they claimed that a Display does not need to be larger than 3.5inch, now the smallest iPhone is a 4inch display one, LOL. And the largest screen iPhone is larger than Androids with larger Displays than it has, making it all even more rather amusing, so inefficient.

But this thing of "I don't need that feature that Android has" is a long time thing done by Apple fanboys

There was a time when iPhone only had 2G and 2.5G (EDGE) while other Smartphones when even low end Smartphones were coming with 3G and 3.5G (HDSPA+ & HSUPA), the fanboys did not need 3G they claimed.

At this same time the iPhone also did not support video recording or have an Autofocusing Camera, they claimed none of that was needed either.


I've become used to reading "We do not need that Android feature" and then years later they get it and praise it.

It's just how things are I guess. Lol.

Yeap this has been my experience too I have to say.

I have all apple products but I'm a techy first.

It is funny what people come out with. What makes things worse is apple likely calling the iphone 8 special edition when really the main features we will see have been on android for years. OLED,Wireless charging, water resistance P68 and it will likely cost 100-150 more expensive.

Only 100 to 159, wow your the optimist aren't you? I would say more like 500 going by the rumours.

No. I prefer LCD on Androids too. The best looking screen Ive had on an Android is the one on Nexus 5X.

That's funny as I think the screen on my Nexus 5 (none X) is the best I've seen!
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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The whole iPhone screen size increase situation was truly hilarious.

I remember when they claimed that a Display does not need to be larger than 3.5inch, now the smallest iPhone is a 4inch display one, LOL. And the largest screen iPhone is larger than Androids with larger Displays than it has, making it all even more rather amusing, so inefficient.

But this thing of "I don't need that feature that Android has" is a long time thing done by Apple fanboys

There was a time when iPhone only had 2G and 2.5G (EDGE) while other Smartphones when even low end Smartphones were coming with 3G and 3.5G (HDSPA+ & HSUPA), the fanboys did not need 3G they claimed.

At this same time the iPhone also did not support video recording or have an Autofocusing Camera, they claimed none of that was needed either.


I've become used to reading "We do not need that Android feature" and then years later they get it and praise it.

It's just how things are I guess. Lol.

Serious question, are you using this vague analysis of 'Apple fanboys' from the past to poke fun at those on this thread who are not massively bothered whether the next iPhone has an OLED or not?

Just trying to gage how bringing up 'fanboys' has any benefit or constructive value to the discussion in this thread? Might be worth elaborating further if honesty is next on the agenda.
 
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The Game 161

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Yeap this has been my experience too I have to say.



Only 100 to 159, wow your the optimist aren't you? I would say more like 500 going by the rumours.



That's funny as I think the screen on my Nexus 5 (none X) is the best I've seen!
Hey I live in hope lol

I'm not paying 150 more for a far smaller screen that's for sure
 

I7guy

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Serious question, are you using this vague analysis of 'Apple fanboys' from the past to poke fun at those on this thread who are not massively bothered whether the next iPhone has an OLED or not?

Just trying to gage how bringing up 'fanboys' has any benefit or constructive value to the discussion in this thread? Might be worth elaborating further if honesty is next on the agenda.
To backup a ridiculous claim requires a fictional population labeled as a stereotype.
 
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jamezr

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I saw this and was skeptical at first...but it is being reported by several sites...
Hackers threaten to remotely wipe iPhones unless Apple pays a ransom

https://www.neowin.net/news/hackers-threaten-to-remotely-wipe-iphones-unless-apple-pays-a-ransom

Hackers claim to have breached hundreds of millions of Apple accounts
http://bgr.com/2017/03/22/apple-iphone-and-icloud-accounts-hacked/

The hackers are threatening to move forward with remotely wiping Apple devices on April 7th, unless Apple pays up. Apple hasn’t publicly commented on the matter at this point. On the off-chance that the hackers are indeed holding access to millions of iCloud accounts, you might consider changing your password to protect your Apple ID.
 
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