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Are you going to switch?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 24.8%
  • No, staying with iPhone

    Votes: 175 47.2%
  • No, I'll go with another platform

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Considering it

    Votes: 101 27.2%

  • Total voters
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Apple have also decided to charge £1000+ for a mobile phone this year so I'm not hugely trusting of their decisions of late. If my phone/watch has wireless charging then great. If it doesn't, I don't care either way, much like OLED screens.

Agree about some of Apple's decisions and methods of catching up this year.

Wireless charging is rumored to be in the 7S also. Luckily you can still charge your preferred way. Via "port" if that's what you want to call it.
 
Agree about some of Apple's decisions and methods of catching up this year.

Wireless charging is rumored to be in the 7S also. Luckily you can still charge your preferred way. Via "port" if that's what you want to call it.
If a phone comes with a charging mat then I'd probably just use that. If Apple decide you have to pay £59 for this mat then I'd use a cable. I can't imagine Apple making a phone that can be charged by multiple charging mats/pads. It'll likely be their own design with constraints to stop it using universal third party products. Everything of late seems to be aimed at stinging the consumer.
 
If a phone comes with a charging mat then I'd probably just use that. If Apple decide you have to pay £59 for this mat then I'd use a cable. I can't imagine Apple making a phone that can be charged by multiple charging mats/pads. It'll likely be their own design with constraints to stop it using universal third party products. Everything of late seems to be aimed at stinging the consumer.
What would be great is a magnetic induction coil that sticks to the back of the logo.
 
If a phone comes with a charging mat then I'd probably just use that. If Apple decide you have to pay £59 for this mat then I'd use a cable. I can't imagine Apple making a phone that can be charged by multiple charging mats/pads. It'll likely be their own design with constraints to stop it using universal third party products. Everything of late seems to be aimed at stinging the consumer.

If they really end up sticking an arbitrary MfI requirement on top of otherwise standard Qi like some rumors suggest, Apple can go screw themselves for all I care. That could actually be one kind of a tipping point for me.
 
If a phone comes with a charging mat then I'd probably just use that. If Apple decide you have to pay £59 for this mat then I'd use a cable. I can't imagine Apple making a phone that can be charged by multiple charging mats/pads. It'll likely be their own design with constraints to stop it using universal third party products. Everything of late seems to be aimed at stinging the consumer.

Yup, a recent rumor says exactly this, that Apple will lock down the feature so you can't use just any qi charger.

Apple being Apple. Certainly unfortunate.
 
We'll really have to see how this all turns out; although the article makes some interesting claims. Thanks for posting that link.

No problem. We all hope to hear good news on the 12th. I want an iPhone 8 that will be within my budget after T-Mobile promos. Whatever wireless charging solution is included should be high caliber as well.
 
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If they really end up sticking an arbitrary MfI requirement on top of otherwise standard Qi like some rumors suggest, Apple can go screw themselves for all I care. That could actually be one kind of a tipping point for me.
That's the most obvious thing they would do. They would lose a lot of money if they made it compatible with third party mats.
 
This is a security thing that happens every 14 days or something, no(?)

Yeah, for the love of god stop asking me for my iTunes password. I have no idea why but sometimes my iPhone will ask me for my password multiple times in a day. The fp sensor also kind of sucks if your fingers are not totally clean, and mine keeps "forgetting" my left thumb print for some reason, which is the one I use to unlock it when it's docked, not fun at 3 in the morning.
 
Can you define "a lot of money".

Hard to forecast. Gotta know margins per unit and how many they could sell. Properitary charging is an iDevice staple because lightning creates more accessory control than a standard USB charger. Wouldn't be surprised if Apple goes proprietary wireless charging.
 
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Can you define "a lot of money".

$100 per charging mat and millions of iPhone 8 customers who will have to pay that amount to unlock a feature they purchased. That's a lot of money. Even more than the AirPods I would imagine as it would sell in much greater numbers as there is no third party alternative.
 
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Come to think of it the iPhone 8 512gb with a fast charger and wireless charging separate purchase and Apple Care would cost almost as much as one of my high end gaming rigs with a Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and Ryzen 1700
 
Come to think of it the iPhone 8 512gb with a fast charger and wireless charging separate purchase and Apple Care would cost almost as much as one of my high end gaming rigs with a Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and Ryzen 1700
OT, but your gaming rig sounds delicious. Really cool that you are running a Ryzen chip. Curious, were you disappointed with Vega's performance?
 
Come to think of it the iPhone 8 512gb with a fast charger and wireless charging separate purchase and Apple Care would cost almost as much as one of my high end gaming rigs with a Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and Ryzen 1700
And a note 8 costs almost as much. If the iPhone x edition prices and accessories are accurate, of which there could be inaccuracies related to unannounced products.
 
Come to think of it the iPhone 8 512gb with a fast charger and wireless charging separate purchase and Apple Care would cost almost as much as one of my high end gaming rigs with a Geforce GTX 1080 Ti and Ryzen 1700

That could be in the U.K. around £1500 to £1600!!!! That would get a MacBook Pro I think, certainly an iMac.

Ridiculous cost.
 
OT, but your gaming rig sounds delicious. Really cool that you are running a Ryzen chip. Curious, were you disappointed with Vega's performance?
It performed exactly as I expected. I never expected AMD to compete with the 1080 Ti. NVIDIA spends as much on marketing as AMD does on R & D and most of their funds were diverted to the CPU division which turned out spectacular. But to expect 2 smash hits from 1 company taking on 2 giants was unrealistic imo which is why I expected 1080 performance and I got what I wanted. Besides, Intel had stopped innovating since Sandy Bridge and was giving incremental updates every year and grossly overpricing their lineup. $1000 for 6900k lol which made it easier for AMD to catch Intel unawares with Ryzen. NVIDIA OTOH has their foot firmly on the accelerator which makes it difficult for AMD to beat them like Intel. The GTX 1080ti consumes half the power of a Vega 64 Liquid which shows how much they improved on efficiency since Fermi. Not only that their DX 11 implementation is superior. The CPU usage is almost always higher in DX 11 for NVIDIA cards compared to AMD in titles.

With the "Poor Volta" marketing by AMD, I really think they thought they could push their clock speeds higher and higher but clearly something went wrong and it ended up being a nuclear reactor.

Vega 56 is the star of the lineup imo. NVIDIA like the greedy corporation they are cut down the 1080 a little too much to end up with the 1070 as with Maxwell,people were just overclocking the 970 and ending up with stock 1080 performance. Vega 56 lies smack in between for almost the same price (once the mining craze clears)and I am sure with AMD FineWine;) the Vega 56 will still eventually end up near a 1080 and the Vega 64 will beat the 1080 handily. Sadly like earlier launches the older reviews will stick and no one will give Vega the respect it deserves. The 290X was criticised for its shoddy blower cooler and performance at launch but now it not only beats the 780ti but also the GTX 980 in many titles. The RX 480 was compared to the 970 on launch. Now its trading blows with the 1060

I really hope AMD succeeds with Vega as I would really like AMD to get my money rather than nvidia but it really isnt looking that way as NVIDIA gets closer and closer to the Volta launch.


And a note 8 costs almost as much. If the iPhone x edition prices and accessories are accurate, of which there could be inaccuracies related to unannounced products.

How many times should it be said Note 8 has expandable storage?

There is no inaccuracy. The price is a controlled leak which is Apple preparing us in advance so that people arent shocked on release day. $1000 for 64GB. Wireless charging and Fast charger sold separately. The price is a joke as my PC lasts 3 years at the very least whilst the iPhone needs replacement every year.
 
It performed exactly as I expected. I never expected AMD to compete with the 1080 Ti. NVIDIA spends as much on marketing as AMD does on R & D and most of their funds were diverted to the CPU division which turned out spectacular. But to expect 2 smash hits from 1 company taking on 2 giants was unrealistic imo which is why I expected 1080 performance and I got what I wanted. Besides, Intel had stopped innovating since Sandy Bridge and was giving incremental updates every year and grossly overpricing their lineup. $1000 for 6900k lol which made it easier for AMD to catch Intel unawares with Ryzen. NVIDIA OTOH has their foot firmly on the accelerator which makes it difficult for AMD to beat them like Intel. The GTX 1080ti consumes half the power of a Vega 64 Liquid which shows how much they improved on efficiency since Fermi. Not only that their DX 11 implementation is superior. The CPU usage is almost always higher in DX 11 for NVIDIA cards compared to AMD in titles.

With the "Poor Volta" marketing by AMD, I really think they thought they could push their clock speeds higher and higher but clearly something went wrong and it ended up being a nuclear reactor.

Vega 56 is the star of the lineup imo. NVIDIA like the greedy corporation they are cut down the 1080 a little too much to end up with the 1070 as with Maxwell,people were just overclocking the 970 and ending up with stock 1080 performance. Vega 56 lies smack in between for almost the same price (once the mining craze clears)and I am sure with AMD FineWine;) the Vega 56 will still eventually end up near a 1080 and the Vega 64 will beat the 1080 handily. Sadly like earlier launches the older reviews will stick and no one will give Vega the respect it deserves. The 290X was criticised for its shoddy blower cooler and performance at launch but now it not only beats the 780ti but also the GTX 980 in many titles. The RX 480 was compared to the 970 on launch. Now its trading blows with the 1060

I really hope AMD succeeds with Vega as I would really like AMD to get my money rather than nvidia but it really isnt looking that way as NVIDIA gets closer and closer to the Volta launch.




How many times should it be said Note 8 has expandable storage?

There is no inaccuracy. The price is a controlled leak which is Apple preparing us in advance so that people arent shocked on release day. $1000 for 64GB. Wireless charging and Fast charger sold separately. The price is a joke as my PC lasts 3 years at the very least whilst the iPhone needs replacement every year.
The expandable store in the note 8 is irrelevant,the price is within spitting distance of the iPhone x edition. Since you don't know if the price is accurate, you don't know if it's inaccurate.

My phones last 5 years without replacement, but optional to replace sooner so no issues purchasing them Outright.
 
It performed exactly as I expected. I never expected AMD to compete with the 1080 Ti. NVIDIA spends as much on marketing as AMD does on R & D and most of their funds were diverted to the CPU division which turned out spectacular. But to expect 2 smash hits from 1 company taking on 2 giants was unrealistic imo which is why I expected 1080 performance and I got what I wanted. Besides, Intel had stopped innovating since Sandy Bridge and was giving incremental updates every year and grossly overpricing their lineup. $1000 for 6900k lol which made it easier for AMD to catch Intel unawares with Ryzen. NVIDIA OTOH has their foot firmly on the accelerator which makes it difficult for AMD to beat them like Intel. The GTX 1080ti consumes half the power of a Vega 64 Liquid which shows how much they improved on efficiency since Fermi. Not only that their DX 11 implementation is superior. The CPU usage is almost always higher in DX 11 for NVIDIA cards compared to AMD in titles.

With the "Poor Volta" marketing by AMD, I really think they thought they could push their clock speeds higher and higher but clearly something went wrong and it ended up being a nuclear reactor.

Vega 56 is the star of the lineup imo. NVIDIA like the greedy corporation they are cut down the 1080 a little too much to end up with the 1070 as with Maxwell,people were just overclocking the 970 and ending up with stock 1080 performance. Vega 56 lies smack in between for almost the same price (once the mining craze clears)and I am sure with AMD FineWine;) the Vega 56 will still eventually end up near a 1080 and the Vega 64 will beat the 1080 handily. Sadly like earlier launches the older reviews will stick and no one will give Vega the respect it deserves. The 290X was criticised for its shoddy blower cooler and performance at launch but now it not only beats the 780ti but also the GTX 980 in many titles. The RX 480 was compared to the 970 on launch. Now its trading blows with the 1060

I really hope AMD succeeds with Vega as I would really like AMD to get my money rather than nvidia but it really isnt looking that way as NVIDIA gets closer and closer to the Volta launch.




How many times should it be said Note 8 has expandable storage?

There is no inaccuracy. The price is a controlled leak which is Apple preparing us in advance so that people arent shocked on release day. $1000 for 64GB. Wireless charging and Fast charger sold separately. The price is a joke as my PC lasts 3 years at the very least whilst the iPhone needs replacement every year.
Why does the iPhone need replacing every year? 6S is still fine, even the 6 is usable.
 
The price is a joke as my PC lasts 3 years at the very least whilst the iPhone needs replacement every year.
That's a lie. Nobody needs to replace an iPhone every year, that is just selective preference. My iPhone 6S is as fast as the day it was released and pretty much matches the speed of an iPhone 7 in my personal experience. It's a nearly 2 year old design and in no way needs replacing. People who replace their devices annually do so because they like having the new phone and are happy to lose money in the pursuit of having that new phone.
 
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The expandable store in the note 8 is irrelevant,the price is within spitting distance of the iPhone x edition. Since you don't know if the price is accurate, you don't know if it's inaccurate.

My phones last 5 years without replacement, but optional to replace sooner so no issues purchasing them Outright.

That would be like saying the wireless charging, dual camera, water proofing, edge to edge screen, etc is irrelevant on the upcoming, high-end iPhone. You can just disregard a device's feature set because it doesn't fit your argument.

Go over to the iPad Pro forum on this website. There are countless threads asking if it is worth the MONEY to get more storage. It is $100 to upgrade from 64gb to 256gb. While this is way better compared to past storage tiers, it is still not cheap. If the iPad pro has expandable storage, it would greatly increase its utility.

I own the iPad pro 12.9, 2nd gen. I love it. If it had a microsd slot, I would love it more. The ability to cheaply and efficiently store large number of documents, pictures, and media files; without compromising on-device storage levels is a huge plus.

Picture and media files are the biggest storage consumers on modern day smartphones. I went on a 2 week vacation/road trip recently and took 1500 photos (literally) and several 4k videos on the galaxy s8+. I spent a good chunk of that in the middle of the rural, isolated upstate New York mountains. I didn't have signal, no one did. Wifi was also about as reliable as a pair of rabbit ears in the 70s. I really put my 128gb microsd card to use, and never once did I worry about running out of storage.

If I had the 64gb iPhone, I would have ran out of storage. I didn't even mention the movies and shows I put on microsd card, that my wife used, during the long drive times.

If I we to purchase the $1100 or $1200 iPhone x, or whatever it is called, maybe this wouldn't be a problem. But after take, we are look at nearly double the price of the iPhone 6 base model. That isn't a small amount of money for a phone. I don't care how much money one does or does not have. That is indeed irrelevant to the argument.

Every feature, from software to hardware matters when the price gets that high.

For me, the note 8 was a no brainer. I owned the note 7, before that disaster went down. I bought a used lg g4 off of amazon for $40 for the trade-in. Along with my small student discount, the Note 8 cost me less than $500. The base price may be $920, but you are not going to get the iphone x for that price.

All factors matter when phones get this expensive. You can argue the merits of said features until the end of time, but you can't disregard them.
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That's a lie. Nobody needs to replace an iPhone every year, that is just selective preference. My iPhone 6S is as fast as the day it was released and pretty much matches the speed of an iPhone 7 in my personal experience. It's a nearly 2 year old design and in no way needs replacing. People who replace their devices annually do so because they like having the new phone and are happy to lose money in the pursuit of having that new phone.

True. Both iPhone and Androids do loose out, quickly, on features every year. That may be more of his point, but you are also correct. You can go multiple years with the same phone, if you choose to do so.

A custom built PC will stay relevant longer than a phone, due to the nature of the upgrades, and the ability to adjust program/game settings. The same applies to a MBP.
 
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