Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[Vegastouch]

In regards to your comment about "only when the s8 comes down..." -- the S8 models have been heavily discounted recently. Just FYI.

I havent noticed that since im not looking to get a new phone but ill look to see how much they came down.

EDIT--Tmobile they are $750. Not much lower. I still hate the fact that they didnt make a flat screen phone this time around. I dont really need an Edge.

 

[epicrayban]

I havent noticed that since im not looking to get a new phone but ill look to see how much they came down.

EDIT--Tmobile they are $750. Not much lower. I still hate the fact that they didnt make a flat screen phone this time around. I dont really need an Edge.

They were discounted down to $550 a couple of weeks ago. Unlocked ones, too.

$750 is hardly any discount at all. Would pass on that price, too, at this point in time.

 

[Radon87000]

Doesn't matter. Apple has been showing stellar financial results since Tim took top position, while everyone was waiting for apple to implode. The iphone x edition, might produce stellar profits it people like it and buy it. But it would be inline with what apple has already earned. I don't know who this mythical entire iphone customer base you are referring to, unless it's the 20 people here on MR.

Apple's iPhone 8 Y2D is going to make all quarters since 2014 look like down quarters

Apple has priced the OLED iPhone at 1000 because it knows people are going to buy it. If people are willing to buy the most expensive phone on the planet just for a curved edge OLED display,it seems that there was a pent up demand for the phone.

I don't feel like I'm being milked dry, so if you do, you have some great alternatives out there.

At $1300 I sure as hell feels so. I bought my 7 Plus for 900 last year. Now I have to pay $400 more if I want a real upgrade. Some years later will it be $1700,$1800?

The note 8 is a value buy to you not me. This is always evidenced by the fact each of us has a different price/value equation. The SD card is a meaningless feature to me and wouldn't affect my buying decision one way or another.

I use apple cloud services and like them better than the competition. If I really had no cell signal, I would take along my companion ipod, no biggie, but then there are other issues to be considered.

The Note 8 also has cloud services. It gives me an option as to whether I want to use an SD card or cloud storage. However I am sure no amount of cloud storage is going to prove enough for my 120GB custom music library and that's not including the tons of videos and movies I have on my phone.

I don't have an iPod and don't plan to buy one. Its so irrelevant Apple doesn't even mention it in the iOS relese notes. How much does an iPod cost vs an SD card again?

If allegedly apple will drop the finger print scanner from the iphone x edition, they will replace the functionality with some equivalent and better.

TBH I never found TouchID reliable as when my fingers are greasy or wet it never worked for me so facial recognition is a definite plus. But now you have lost the ability wherein the phone used to get unlocked the second it was out of your pocket. You will have to hold the phone in front of your face to unlock it.

Note 8 has both features

so now you are blaming apple for the price of the s8? That's rich.

Like it or not Apple has just established a precedent that a company can get away by charging $1300 for a phone. When Google Pixel launched it was priced close to the iPhone. So was the S7 and S7 Edge. Now Apple raised the bar to 1k plus, Samsung just found an opportunity to make a killing and not stir up a storm.

Under normal circumstances if the iPhone was priced at $799 as usual, Samsung would have been crucified for this obnoxious pricing. However now that we know how much the iPhone 8 costs, the Note 8 doesn't seem like a bad deal which is exactly what Samsung was hoping for. I expect Google to price their Pixel at the same price in the near future and so will the other manufacturers. Consumers are left with a big hole in their pockets.

This is exactly what happened in the GPU arena. NVIDIA's 1080ti was an insult to customers because those who bought the TitanXP for $1400 were fleeced because the Ti offered the same performance for $680. However even the 1080ti was regarded as a very overpriced and an expensive card as NVIDIA jacked up Pascal's prices $100 all over their lineup compared to Maxwell.Guess what? When AMD came up with Vega they priced the Vega Liquid at $680 making the 1080ti seem like a value buy and set all prices close to the prices of Pascal.

Industry Collusion ftw

So according to your logic a Ferrari and Civic are the same, because they share exactly the same features: wheels, tires, brakes, engine, radio etc?

The Ferrari has better performing components for a higher price. The iPhone 8 has similar performing components for a higher price
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I'm not sure what excessively means, surely a value call based on individual circumstances.

As far as the fingerprint scanner, no one knows what apple is doing until they announce it. I feel confident in saying, whatever they do, it will be the same on the rumored 7s to the current generation and the same or better on the iphone x edition to the current generation. I like touch id myself, it works so seamlessly(for me) other unlock methods are not really needed (imo).

What value call? $300 almost gets me a GTX 1070 the third fastest GPU on the planet or A Samsung 840 EVO SSD, or a full fledged i7 7700k processor.

 

[I7guy]

Apple's iPhone 8 Y2D is going to make all quarters since 2014 look like down quarters

Apple has priced the OLED iPhone at 1000 because it knows people are going to buy it. If people are willing to buy the most expensive phone on the planet just for a curved edge OLED display,it seems that there was a pent up demand for the phone.

Well that's great for apple then. What else is there to say about it. And you don't really know that reason that "people" will want to buy this phone. I'm guessing many don't really care about the new screen although they may be curious. I certainly don't care about it, neither does my family, that is not going to change MY experience on the iphone.

At $1300 I sure as hell feels so. I bought my 7 Plus for 900 last year. Now I have to pay $400 more if I want a real upgrade. Some years later will it be $1700,$1800?

Well that is you then. I don't feel like "they" are "milking"me. I get value out the phone.

The Note 8 also has cloud services. It gives me an option as to whether I want to use an SD card or cloud storage. However I am sure no amount of cloud storage is going to prove enough for my 120GB custom music library and that's not including the tons of videos and movies I have on my phone.

I don't have an iPod and don't plan to buy one. Its so irrelevant Apple doesn't even mention it in the iOS relese notes. How much does an iPod cost vs an SD card again?

One needs google for the cloud services, the note 8 doesn't have cloud services. As far as the ipod, it's my use case, I don't have to worry about SD cards and external storage, never have never will.

TBH I never found TouchID reliable as when my fingers are greasy or wet it never worked for me so facial recognition is a definite plus. But now you have lost the ability wherein the phone used to get unlocked the second it was out of your pocket. You will have to hold the phone in front of your face to unlock it.

Note 8 has both features

Well you really don't know what the functions are on the iphone x edition as it hasn't been announced yet.

Like it or not Apple has just established a precedent that a company can get away by charging $1300 for a phone. When Google Pixel launched it was priced close to the iPhone. So was the S7 and S7 Edge. Now Apple raised the bar to 1k plus, Samsung just found an opportunity to make a killing and not stir up a storm.

Under normal circumstances if the iPhone was priced at $799 as usual, Samsung would have been crucified for this obnoxious pricing. However now that we know how much the iPhone 8 costs, the Note 8 doesn't seem like a bad deal which is exactly what Samsung was hoping for. I expect Google to price their Pixel at the same price in the near future and so will the other manufacturers. Consumers are left with a big hole in their pockets.

This is exactly what happened in the GPU arena. NVIDIA's 1080ti was an insult to customers because those who bought the TitanXP for $1400 were fleeced because the Ti offered the same performance for $680. However even the 1080ti was regarded as a very overpriced and an expensive card as NVIDIA jacked up Pascal's prices $100 all over their lineup compared to Maxwell.Guess what? When AMD came up with Vega they priced the Vega Liquid at $680 making the 1080ti seem like a value buy and set all prices close to the prices of Pascal.

Industry Collusion ftw

You are under no obligation to buy an apple product. Bemoaning how expensive it is, is similar to a Lamborghini customer bemoaning how expensive it is. Nobody has to buy what they no longer get any value out of.

The Ferrari has better performing components for a higher price. The iPhone 8 has similar performing components for a higher price

But how is the reliability, I expect it driven as a daily driver to be as reliable as a Honda for that price, according to your logic. But it's not (according to the one Ferrari owner I know)

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What value call? $300 almost gets me a GTX 1070 the third fastest GPU on the planet or A Samsung 840 EVO SSD, or a full fledged i7 7700k processor.

It's still a value call.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Apple's iPhone 8 Y2D is going to make all quarters since 2014 look like down quarters

Apple has priced the OLED iPhone at 1000 because it knows people are going to buy it. If people are willing to buy the most expensive phone on the planet just for a curved edge OLED display,it seems that there was a pent up demand for the phone.


At $1300 I sure as hell feels so. I bought my 7 Plus for 900 last year. Now I have to pay $400 more if I want a real upgrade. Some years later will it be $1700,$1800?



The Note 8 also has cloud services. It gives me an option as to whether I want to use an SD card or cloud storage. However I am sure no amount of cloud storage is going to prove enough for my 120GB custom music library and that's not including the tons of videos and movies I have on my phone.

I don't have an iPod and don't plan to buy one. Its so irrelevant Apple doesn't even mention it in the iOS relese notes. How much does an iPod cost vs an SD card again?


TBH I never found TouchID reliable as when my fingers are greasy or wet it never worked for me so facial recognition is a definite plus. But now you have lost the ability wherein the phone used to get unlocked the second it was out of your pocket. You will have to hold the phone in front of your face to unlock it.

Note 8 has both features


Like it or not Apple has just established a precedent that a company can get away by charging $1300 for a phone. When Google Pixel launched it was priced close to the iPhone. So was the S7 and S7 Edge. Now Apple raised the bar to 1k plus, Samsung just found an opportunity to make a killing and not stir up a storm.

Under normal circumstances if the iPhone was priced at $799 as usual, Samsung would have been crucified for this obnoxious pricing. However now that we know how much the iPhone 8 costs, the Note 8 doesn't seem like a bad deal which is exactly what Samsung was hoping for. I expect Google to price their Pixel at the same price in the near future and so will the other manufacturers. Consumers are left with a big hole in their pockets.

This is exactly what happened in the GPU arena. NVIDIA's 1080ti was an insult to customers because those who bought the TitanXP for $1400 were fleeced because the Ti offered the same performance for $680. However even the 1080ti was regarded as a very overpriced and an expensive card as NVIDIA jacked up Pascal's prices $100 all over their lineup compared to Maxwell.Guess what? When AMD came up with Vega they priced the Vega Liquid at $680 making the 1080ti seem like a value buy and set all prices close to the prices of Pascal.

Industry Collusion ftw



The Ferrari has better performing components for a higher price. The iPhone 8 has similar performing components for a higher price
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What value call? $300 almost gets me a GTX 1070 the third fastest GPU on the planet or A Samsung 840 EVO SSD, or a full fledged i7 7700k processor.

Yes the note 8 is a great deal in comparison. Apple won't be getting anymore money out of me this year. I've bought AirPods and the iPad Pro 10.5. However I won't be buying anything more this year.

I'm getting the Samsung note 8 and the new gear icon X when they come out and the gear sport.
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Well that's great for apple then. What else is there to say about it. And you don't really know that reason that "people" will want to buy this phone. I'm guessing many don't really care about the new screen although they may be curious. I certainly don't care about it, neither does my family, that is not going to change MY experience on the iphone.


Well that is you then. I don't feel like "they" are "milking"me. I get value out the phone.


One needs google for the cloud services, the note 8 doesn't have cloud services. As far as the ipod, it's my use case, I don't have to worry about SD cards and external storage, never have never will.


Well you really don't know what the functions are on the iphone x edition as it hasn't been announced yet.


You are under no obligation to buy an apple product. Bemoaning how expensive it is, is similar to a Lamborghini customer bemoaning how expensive it is. Nobody has to buy what they no longer get any value out of.


But how is the reliability, I expect it driven as a daily driver to be as reliable as a Honda for that price, according to your logic. But it's not (according to the one Ferrari owner I know)

It's still a value call.

The note 8 does have cloud services, namely Samsung's own cloud services including a backup up of the phone like the iPhone's iCloud back up. You can also back up all your photos and documents and music, home screen layout and wallpapers and themes.

 

[I7guy]

Yes the note 8 is a great deal in comparison. Apple won't be getting anymore money out of me this year. I've bought AirPods and the iPad Pro 10.5. However I won't be buying anything more this year.

I'm getting the Samsung note 8 and the new gear icon X when they come out and the gear sport.
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The note 8 does have cloud services, namely Samsung's own cloud services including a backup up of the phone like the iPhone's iCloud back up. You can also back up all your photos and documents and music, home screen layout and wallpapers and themes.

Everybody seems to have "cloud" services these days. My laptop vendor, ASUS, has "cloud" services as well, but I can't share photos or music amongst different devices and constituents. Unless Samsung's cloud services is similar to googles or apples (or I guess Microsoft as well or maybe Amazon), with respect to sharing AND backup, it's not really the same.

This is what their cloud services seem to be:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/app/samsung-cloud

 

[Shanghaichica]

Everybody seems to have "cloud" services these days. My laptop vendor, ASUS, has "cloud" services as well, but I can't share photos or music amongst different devices and constituents. Unless Samsung's cloud services is similar to googles or apples (or I guess Microsoft as well or maybe Amazon), with respect to sharing AND backup, it's not really the same.

This is what their cloud services seem to be:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/app/samsung-cloud

I don't know if you can share because I didn't use it extensively on the S7 edge when I had it.

 

[Vegastouch]

They were discounted down to $550 a couple of weeks ago. Unlocked ones, too.

$750 is hardly any discount at all. Would pass on that price, too, at this point in time.

That's what it says on TMobiles website. I wouldnt be looking to buy one outright. Probably won't get one at all unless I break my GS7.
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Well that's great for apple then. What else is there to say about it. And you don't really know that reason that "people" will want to buy this phone. I'm guessing many don't really care about the new screen although they may be curious. I certainly don't care about it, neither does my family, that is not going to change MY experience on the iphone.


Well that is you then. I don't feel like "they" are "milking"me. I get value out the phone.


One needs google for the cloud services, the note 8 doesn't have cloud services. As far as the ipod, it's my use case, I don't have to worry about SD cards and external storage, never have never will.


Well you really don't know what the functions are on the iphone x edition as it hasn't been announced yet.


You are under no obligation to buy an apple product. Bemoaning how expensive it is, is similar to a Lamborghini customer bemoaning how expensive it is. Nobody has to buy what they no longer get any value out of.


But how is the reliability, I expect it driven as a daily driver to be as reliable as a Honda for that price, according to your logic. But it's not (according to the one Ferrari owner I know)

It's still a value call.

You think $1300 for the iphone is good value? It isnt even as advanced software/feature wise as the Androids by a wide margin and i dont mean to sound like a smart ass, but being a teenager, are you spending your money on these phone or are your Parents? Im asking because its a lot easier to not feel "milked" when it isnt your money being spend on the phone or the bill.
I make pretty good money and even i wont pay Samsungs asking price let alone Apples.
When i upgrade at some point and SS is still wanting $8-900 for their phone, im probably switching to Motorola. It isnt that important to me at that point. There is a limit, even to Apple fans when they make their prices that steep.

 

[I7guy]

That's what it says on TMobiles website. I wouldnt be looking to buy one outright. Probably won't get one at all unless I break my GS7.
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You think $1300 for the iphone is good value? It isnt even as advanced software/feature wise as the Androids by a wide margin and i dont mean to sound like a smart ass, but being a teenager, are you spending your money on these phone or are your Parents? Im asking because its a lot easier to not feel "milked" when it isnt your money being spend on the phone or the bill.
I make pretty good money and even i wont pay Samsungs asking price let alone Apples.
When i upgrade at some point and SS is still wanting $8-900 for their phone, im probably switching to Motorola. It isnt that important to me at that point. There is a limit, even to Apple fans when they make their prices that steep.

Thank you for that honest response.

I don't know if the "iphone x" will be a good value, because I haven't seen it. I do know that the Note 8 at 950 and the Iphone x at $999 are on the same side of expensive and one is not a better value than the other as others have tried to make that argument. But I was generically stating I find a good value proposition in apples hardware and software for my own reasons.

It may seem like some of the childish tit-for-tat on this forum that would make it appear as if two teenagers were arguing about whose dad can beat up whose dad, but for me at least, that is not the case. I buy all of my phones and my families phones without subsidies or loans, that includes: two 5s, 1 phone 6, 1 phone 6s, 1 iphone 6s+ and 1 iphone 7, plus applecare on all of them. In addition, we have two macbook pros in the house and two ipads, and this weekend I'm getting the ipad pro. And will be on the lookout for an AW 3.

Whether or not I want the "iphone x" the jury is out on this, at the very least, I'm getting the 7s, hopefully the 7s+.

Yes to your point, apple is expensive and now, so is Samsung.

As an aside, my two 5s are now back in my possession running ios 11. Up front, ios 11 is the release ios 6 should have been.

My prediction is this will be a wild quarter for apple and we only have 11 days to witness it.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I don't know if the "iphone x" will be a good value, because I haven't seen it. I do know that the Note 8 at 950 and the Iphone x at $999 are on the same side of expensive and one is not a better value than the other as others have tried to make that argument. But I was generically stating I find a good value proposition in apples hardware and software for my own reasons.

If you buy both phones at launch they are on the same scale, but on contract I've found Samsung's are significantly cheaper as they are not price fixed. Carriers do deals and throw in extra goodies, well they do here anyway.

Then 2 months after launch I guarantee the iPhone will still be £999 and the Samsung will be nearer the £600 mark with it being even cheaper to pick up secondhand. I've never found iPhones to be good value as such. I've always paid a little bit more for the fact you get a good all round service and up until now it's been just about reasonable. The thought of it going upwards of £400 more per contract has me asking if this is worth it in the future? Don't get me wrong I love iOS and much prefer it as a mobile experience but I think Apple are losing touch with the consumer a little and are starting to put pricing before the actual product. From the leaks I have seen of the iPhone 8 or X, whatever, it's nothing we haven't seen before. It's just Apple are finally doing it. They'll market it to sound like they are changing the mobile experience and millions will buy it.

Part of me hope it fails and the 7S succeeds as it might force them to realise it's not all about profits but maintaining that previous status they had a few years back.

 

[apolloa]

If you buy both phones at launch they are on the same scale, but on contract I've found Samsung's are significantly cheaper as they are not price fixed. Carriers do deals and throw in extra goodies, well they do here anyway.

Then 2 months after launch I guarantee the iPhone will still be £999 and the Samsung will be nearer the £600 mark with it being even cheaper to pick up secondhand. I've never found iPhones to be good value as such. I've always paid a little bit more for the fact you get a good all round service and up until now it's been just about reasonable. The thought of it going upwards of £400 more per contract has me asking if this is worth it in the future? Don't get me wrong I love iOS and much prefer it as a mobile experience but I think Apple are losing touch with the consumer a little and are starting to put pricing before the actual product. From the leaks I have seen of the iPhone 8 or X, whatever, it's nothing we haven't seen before. It's just Apple are finally doing it. They'll market it to sound like they are changing the mobile experience and millions will buy it.

Part of me hope it fails and the 7S succeeds as it might force them to realise it's not all about profits but maintaining that previous status they had a few years back.

Amen! I think over here on say a 24 month contract for £40 a month, you'll have to pay £4 to 500 for the phone up front too. Carriers will subsidise to an extent but not that much I doubt!

 

[Shanghaichica]

Thank you for that honest response.

I don't know if the "iphone x" will be a good value, because I haven't seen it. I do know that the Note 8 at 950 and the Iphone x at $999 are on the same side of expensive and one is not a better value than the other as others have tried to make that argument. But I was generically stating I find a good value proposition in apples hardware and software for my own reasons.

It may seem like some of the childish tit-for-tat on this forum that would make it appear as if two teenagers were arguing about whose dad can beat up whose dad, but for me at least, that is not the case. I buy all of my phones and my families phones without subsidies or loans, that includes: two 5s, 1 phone 6, 1 phone 6s, 1 iphone 6s+ and 1 iphone 7, plus applecare on all of them. In addition, we have two macbook pros in the house and two ipads, and this weekend I'm getting the ipad pro. And will be on the lookout for an AW 3.

Whether or not I want the "iphone x" the jury is out on this, at the very least, I'm getting the 7s, hopefully the 7s+.

Yes to your point, apple is expensive and now, so is Samsung.

As an aside, my two 5s are now back in my possession running ios 11. Up front, ios 11 is the release ios 6 should have been.

My prediction is this will be a wild quarter for apple and we only have 11 days to witness it.

The iPhone 8 is worse in terms of price for me because even at £1,000 for the base model it won't be enough storage. I would need the next storage tier (256GB). So it would be closer to £1,100. With the note 8 I can pay £970 and get 64GB and an additional 200GB of extra storage with a micro SD card. Also the note 8 has many additional features over the iPhone 8, both software and hardware related. So for me the note 8 offers more value than the iPhone 8.

 

[Geert76]

let's pretend I am not a macrumors junkie or techie person, so an average consumer (this group of course is bigger) who thinks twice how to spend his money, but still likes to get one of the latest top of the notch smarpthone, and trying to REALLY value his money when it comes to buy a new smartphone.

Here in Europe I can get the latest Samsung S8 easily for about €550-600 (in the US I think about $450-500?). This would be about 45-50% cheaper then the iPhone 8 being rumoured at +€1000.
The iPhone 8 will (just like previous iPhones) stay at the same price for months, even then, after a few months maybe the iPhone 8 will be discounted maybe €50 max, so you are still looking at about €925/975 (base model).

If I look around in my own social life and coworkers around me (I have about 700-750 coworkers in my department), I hear people saying things like "iPhone 8 will be so absurdly expensive,you are paying a few hundred euro pure for the fact their is an Apple logo on the back".
And with this I can only agree ofcourse, even with multiple Apple devices at home
I certainly know and 'accept' I paid a few hundred euro purely for that Apple logo on the back of my iPhone 7 and 2016 MacBook Pro Retina touchbar. You do not need to be an expert to realise this


People are really start realizing how to wisely spend their hard earned money on smartphones but still get a high end top smartphone.
Samsung is not Samsung from the past anymore, they really stepped up their game after the release of the S8 with its monthly updates. Okay, I'll be honest, maybe sometimes things go 0.002 seconds slower on my S8 compared to my iPhone 7

One thing iPhones ofcourse do better then Samsung, when it comes to resell value.

 

[I7guy]

The iPhone 8 is worse in terms of price for me because even at £1,000 for the base model it won't be enough storage. I would need the next storage tier (256GB). So it would be closer to £1,100. With the note 8 I can pay £970 and get 64GB and an additional 200GB of extra storage with a micro SD card. Also the note 8 has many additional features over the iPhone 8, both software and hardware related. So for me the note 8 offers more value than the iPhone 8.

Storage aside, we all don’t know every function of the iPhone “8” because it’s not announced. Apple always has some surprise in store. And even if the note 8 spec sheet might be bigger it may not be more useful to an individual.

 

[Geert76]

Apple always has some surprise in store.

please do tell me, what was the surprise effect of the iPhone 7 compared to the previous model, 6S. Ah, I see...the removal of the headphone jack ( you can simply use the adapter which comes with the iPhone 7...true innovation there!).
Jup, true that was a massive improvement / true surprise.... for Apple own 'bank account', in no way for the consumer

 

[Shanghaichica]

please do tell me, what was the surprise effect of the iPhone 7 compared to the previous model, 6S. Ah, I see...the removal of the headphone jack ( you can simply use the adapter which comes with the iPhone 7...true innovation there!).
Jup, true that was a massive improvement / true surprise.... for Apple own 'bank account', in no way for the consumer

We knew everything before hand about the 7 plus and during the keynote Apple listed them off one by one literally.

I get that iPhone customers want an oled panel etc but I just can't justify the price when android phones have had the same features for some time and don't feel the need to charge the ridiculous prices Apple will be. The keynote will be insulting. I can just imagine them wheeling Jonny Ives out trying to convince us about how innovative this new display and form factor is. Then we will get the usual guff about it being the most advanced phone on the planet.

I think if Apple do remove Touch ID it will show that they are so fixated on how a phone looks that they couldn't bare to put it on the back.

Say what you will about Samsung's placement of the fingerprint sensor but that took 'courage' to keep it on the phone even if they could only put it in an awkward place.

 

[Geert76]

We knew everything before hand about the 7 plus and during the keynote Apple listed them off one by one literally.

I can just imagine them wheeling Jonny Ives out trying to convince us about how innovative this new display and form factor is.

haha, yeah Jony with his typical voice in those videos....He talks like he invented the world himself, some sort of Jezus / God. But then again, thats the power of Apple, marketing 101

 

[Radon87000]

We knew everything before hand about the 7 plus and during the keynote Apple listed them off one by one literally.

I get that iPhone customers want an oled panel etc but I just can't justify the price when android phones have had the same features for some time and don't feel the need to charge the ridiculous prices Apple will be. The keynote will be insulting. I can just imagine them wheeling Jonny Ives out trying to convince us about how innovative this new display and form factor is. Then we will get the usual guff about it being the most advanced phone on the planet.

I think if Apple do remove Touch ID it will show that they are so fixated on how a phone looks that they couldn't bare to put it on the back.

Say what you will about Samsung's placement of the fingerprint sensor but that took 'courage' to keep it on the phone even if they could only put it in an awkward place.

And like brainless drones the audience will start clapping when the price is revealed and ooh and aah once Jony starts his oled marketing as if Apple invented it.

 

[I7guy]

please do tell me, what was the surprise effect of the iPhone 7 compared to the previous model, 6S. Ah, I see...the removal of the headphone jack ( you can simply use the adapter which comes with the iPhone 7...true innovation there!).
Jup, true that was a massive improvement / true surprise.... for Apple own 'bank account', in no way for the consumer

5s touch id and 64 bit, 6s blew the competition away with a9 and Touch ID. As far as why consumers buy iPhones, you can figure it out. As far as galaxy line; lost sd slot and lost ir blaster. At least Apple flagships keep supporting functions.
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And like brainless drones the audience will start clapping when the price is revealed and ooh and aah once Jony starts his oled marketing as if Apple invented it.

NAh the audience is smart they know Samsung invented oled and WiFi and cell phones.

 

[Shanghaichica]

5s touch id and 64 bit, 6s blew the competition away with a9 and Touch ID. As far as why consumers buy iPhones, you can figure it out. As far as galaxy line; lost sd slot and lost ir blaster. At least Apple flagships keep supporting functions.
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NAh the audience is smart they know Samsung invented oled and WiFi and cell phones.

Didn't they just take away the headphone jack and rumours are they are doing away with Touch ID. Samsung brought back the SD card slot and waterproofing. At least Samsung listen to their customers and bring things back if they recognise they made a mistake.

However these days all phones leak before they are released. Heck I think Apple even leaked their own stuff this year with that home pod software leak. I don't believe for one second that it was accidental.

The A11 chip will be a power house no doubt though.

 

[Radon87000]

5s touch id and 64 bit, 6s blew the competition away with a9 and Touch ID. As far as why consumers buy iPhones, you can figure it out. As far as galaxy line; lost sd slot and lost ir blaster. At least Apple flagships keep supporting functions.

Since the 5s, leaks have gotten better. There was no surprise for the 6s and 7 and 6

Oh and by the way Apple just removed a function with Touch ID

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the audience is smart they know Samsung invented oled and WiFi and cell phones.

Not saying Samsung but oled has been on android phones for years. What does the iPhone 8 have on the s8m for double he price

 

[torana355]

At least Apple flagships keep supporting functions.
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Like the headphone jack and touch id on the 8...Seriously your bias is so strong you flat out say silly stuff half the time and I don't think you need to, you are a smart guy imo but you need to back it down a notch. Just like the whole display discussion, Display mate rated the OLED panel in the Note 8 as the best they have ever seen yet you still think the LCD in the iPhone is better, its laughable.

 

[Radon87000]

Like the headphone jack and touch id on the 8...Seriously your bias is so strong you flat out say silly stuff half the time.

There is also nothing mentioned about 3D Touch. It was supposed to be difficult getting it to work with OLED. Maybe that's not there as well

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I think Apples biggest mistake in recent years was removing the headphone jack. Surveys in the UK suggest price increases and the loss of this feature were the main reasons for poor sales of the iPhone 7 here. Losing 3D on the screen would be stupid IMO. It's starting to become established and has turned into a very useful feature.

 

[Geert76]

@I7guy besides being baised you really should stop spreading flalse information here.
Let's just keep this topic with facts, okay?

''At least Apple flagships keep supporting functions'', no idea why you are keep spreading false information like this.