Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[I7guy]

Considering how Apple's 7 Plus is still a device which can be held in a hand, it doesnt take much deductive skills to realise they will develop a phone with the same footprint as the 7 Plus. Its a rumor backed by common sense

It also doesn't take much to know much more about the phone; it will support Apple Pay, have a motion sensor etc. but it's still a rumor.

We should keep the average consumer out of this as both you and me dont know why they upgraded. The consumer upgraded his phone. Thats all we know.

Okay. You upgraded your phone because you wanted out of your iPhone 6 devices due to performance. I upgraded my phone because to me it was a substantial upgrade. Fair enough?

Its very much a user facing difference otherwise Apple wouldnt have Retina devices available for sale.

As I said theres only 2 things a Moto G differs with even the $1300 iPhone. Screen and processor. Those are the fundamental diffrentiators.

Unless the engine is on the outside of the car it's not user facing and by your logic the engine is irrelevant since it can't be seen. Only the tires, bumper and grill can be seen. So there is virtually no difference between a 10 year old civic and a new Ferrari.

My Moto does everything the iPhone can. So why do I pay $800 more? A nicer display, faster processor, a better camera and better build qualoty.

The aforementioned civic does everything the Ferrari can also. So why pay $500,000 more?

Do you or do you not do everything on a screen with a smartphone?

Wrong question. Is my typing going to be faster? Will magically apps open up quicker, will I be able to mysterious conquer the last levels on all games etc.

To you,not me. But I am expecting the 8 will still outsell the 7S because people are tired of lame duck upgrades

Right matter of opinion.

I dont care about the inferior OLEDs and LCD displays. I only buy the best products. If the best OLED>best LCD, I am satisfied.

Again matter of preference of what I choose to buy for my own reasons.

Drives for a lot of customers so much so that people are willing to pay double the price of the 7S for that OLED display. And thats the iPhone responsible for super normal growth

Some customers will want one for their own reasons, just like all flagships released since 2013 have broken records.

https://techgage.com/article/a-look-at-amd-radeon-vega-hbcc/

There is an entire technical document dedicated to how AMD's HBCC provides huge benefits over NVIDIA's Pascal.

Reality- No real world improverment in user experience

So instead of this theoretical geek talk, tell me what it did to my phone in the real world

Real world benefit if arm 64 vs arm 32 can't be denied. Just because you can't see the engine doesn't mean you don't know its there. We're discussing smartphones here.

What I claimed was the practical part of it. The iPhone 6 or any computer for that matter needs replacement every 3 years or so and the replacement doesnt necessarily have to be a gamechanging update. In 2 years or so, the iPhone battery also needs to be replaced as 500 charge cycles are reached so people just traded in their iPhones for a newer model.

That is still your value system, my 4 and 5s are still chugging away, nicely. I replace computers infrequently because intel desktop chips have longer lifespans than mobile chips.

I am talking about fitting a 6 inch OLED screen in the same size as the 4.7 iPhone as innovation.

Sharp started that innovation in 2013. In 2017 that ceases to be innovation.

Thats what I was stating from the start but the one who brought "people" into this was you not me. I never claimed to know why the average consumer upgraded

You claimed to know why they didn't upgrade, which is virtually the same thing.

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Actually, in Androidland its vastly regarded as an overpriced S8 Plus. Its basically an S8 Plus with a stylus. Not to mention the price of the Note 8 will drop further in the coming months which would make it even more of a bargain.

And even if accept the lack of stylus as a compromise its still nowhere near as compromised as the iPhone 7S compared to the 8. When I look at the 8, I dont feel like spending a single buck on the 7S. I dont get that feeling with the Note 8 and S8

And now we're talking who has the less regress of compromising? Oh my word!

But why is it higher price? OLED is pocket change on Android. Whats the big deal about this phone? Its a radical upgrade for the iPhone but from an Android perspective its really nothing new.

Well actually it's only "really nothing not new" for a few months. It's not like android has been towing the line for years; it hasn't.

 

[Radon87000]

It also doesn't take much to know much more about the phone; it will support Apple Pay, have a motion sensor etc. but it's still a rumor.

So yes a 6.4 inch iPhone is incoming. As you said it doesnt take much to know this

Okay. You upgraded your phone because you wanted out of your iPhone 6 devices due to performance. I upgraded my phone because to me it was a substantial upgrade. Fair enough?

Partly. I also upgraded my phone because I got bored with it

Unless the engine is on the outside of the car it's not user facing and by your logic the engine is irrelevant since it can't be seen. Only the tires, bumper and grill can be seen. So there is virtually no difference between a 10 year old civic and a new Ferrari.

Its a faster car. Thats user facing

The aforementioned civic does everything the Ferrari can also. So why pay $500,000 more?

Its got a better engine. Hence pay $500000 more. I am paying double $800 more because of the better display. Both of them have displays. iPhone 7 is better. Iphone 8 is even better

Wrong question. Is my typing going to be faster? Will magically apps open up quicker, will I be able to mysterious conquer the last levels on all games etc.

In order to open apps or type you have to stare at the screen and that screen is a night and day difference with OLED

Some customers will want one for their own reasons, just like all flagships released since 2013 have broken records.

iPhone 6 growth chart is unbeaten. The iPhone 7 and 6s have lost in at least 1 quarter in a year. The iPhone 8 will be the first iPhone to smash records in all 4 quarters

Real world benefit if arm 64 vs arm 32 can't be denied.

You told me some theoretical stuff. What real world advantage did it give me as far as user experience goes

Sharp started that innovation in 2013. In 2017 that ceases to be innovation.

Sharp's phone still has bezels. It simply reduced them while Samsung was reducing bezels since 2011

You claimed to know why they didn't upgrade, which is virtually the same thing.

A person can upgrade for a varied amount of reasons. A person does not upgrade for just 1 reason. he just doesnt find the upgrade alluring enough for the price

And now we're talking who has the less regress of compromising? Oh my word!

But the question is is the lack of a stylus really a compromise? Because thats about the only difference between S8 and Note 8

Well actually it's only "really nothing not new" for a few months. It's not like android has been towing the line for years; it hasn't.

Android has had OLED displays for years. Lets be real here. The major game changer about the iPhone 8 is the OLED display but Apple's treating it like they invented OLED for the price they are charging

 

[jeyf]

So yes a 6.4 inch iPhone is incoming. As you said it doesnt take much to know this



Partly. I also upgraded my phone because I got bored with it


Its a faster car. Thats user facing



Its got a better engine. Hence pay $500000 more. I am paying double $800 more because of the better display. Both of them have displays. iPhone 7 is better. Iphone 8 is even better



In order to open apps or type you have to stare at the screen and that screen is a night and day difference with OLED



iPhone 6 growth chart is unbeaten. The iPhone 7 and 6s have lost in at least 1 quarter in a year. The iPhone 8 will be the first iPhone to smash records in all 4 quarters



You told me some theoretical stuff. What real world advantage did it give me as far as user experience goes


Sharp's phone still has bezels. It simply reduced them while Samsung was reducing bezels since 2011



A person can upgrade for a varied amount of reasons. A person does not upgrade for just 1 reason. he just doesnt find the upgrade alluring enough for the price


But the question is is the lack of a stylus really a compromise? Because thats about the only difference between S8 and Note 8


Android has had OLED displays for years. Lets be real here. The major game changer about the iPhone 8 is the OLED display but Apple's treating it like they invented OLED for the price they are charging

 

[Shanghaichica]

Yes Samsung does the same thing. The galaxy s8 is a compromised note 8 with a lower price as well. In other news, companies like to have multiple product lines at multiple price points. The lower priced products generally do not have the full features of their full-priced cousins.

It's not really the same thing though is it. The S8 has all the so called premium features of the iPhone 8. The only difference between the note 8 and the S8 plus is the S pen and the dual lens cameras.

There will be a vast difference between the iPhone 8 and the 7S plus.

 

[jeyf]

Husband and I have two phones, iPhone5, which will be obsolete with this go around.

very much need to up grade but even to use Barclays financing on 2 phones its ~$80.00 / mo. Along with Verizon charges its $200.00/mo

Buying something off craigsList.

what happens if the iPhone 8 is problematic.
Like you have to hold it a certain way or it tends to catch fire in the pants pocket. Apple quality control behaves like a deer in the head lights when things go bad. Innovation is so risky bad with Apple Inc these days.

 

[I7guy]

Its a faster car. Thats user facing



Its got a better engine. Hence pay $500000 more. I am paying double $800 more because of the better display. Both of them have displays. iPhone 7 is better. Iphone 8 is even better

A 64 bit phone has a faster engine as well, that's user facing. You can edit a 4K iMovie in 64 bits. You are paying more for the iphone because if the new tech; not just one thing.

In order to open apps or type you have to stare at the screen and that screen is a night and day difference with OLED

Apps don't open faster under oled.

iPhone 6 growth chart is unbeaten. The iPhone 7 and 6s have lost in at least 1 quarter in a year. The iPhone 8 will be the first iPhone to smash records in all 4 quarters

Since 2013 growth has been unbeaten.

You told me some theoretical stuff. What real world advantage did it give me as far as user experience goes

One example was given above.

Sharp's phone still has bezels. It simply reduced them while Samsung was reducing bezels since 2011

Sharp started the trend; it was the catalyst.

A person can upgrade for a varied amount of reasons. A person does not upgrade for just 1 reason. he just doesnt find the upgrade alluring enough for the price

You just fell into your own trap of claiming we don't know the reasons "people" upgrade and then list some reasons. I think he does find the upgrade substantial enough.

But the question is is the lack of a stylus really a compromise? Because thats about the only difference between S8 and Note 8

Yes less features, less price.

Android has had OLED displays for years. Lets be real here. The major game changer about the iPhone 8 is the OLED display but Apple's treating it like they invented OLED for the price they are charging

No Apple is not. Apple thinks finally(and we'll see if it's true) oled won't give them a bad name.; pink screen, burn in, uneven wear and color shifting etc
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It's not really the same thing though is it. The S8 has all the so called premium features of the iPhone 8. The only difference between the note 8 and the S8 plus is the S pen and the dual lens cameras.

There will be a vast difference between the iPhone 8 and the 7S plus.

We don't know what "premium" features the next iPhone has over the note (as the iPhone is unannounced). However the iPhone will work with the Apple Pencil.

Apple has chosen to differentiate its mid-tier line more than Samsung, is the way I would view it.

 

[Zaft]

The major game changer about the iPhone 8 is the OLED display but Apple's treating it like they invented OLED for the price they are charging

I can see it now "Apple engineers created a display that has true blacks, its magical"

 

[Shanghaichica]

A 64 bit phone has a faster engine as well, that's user facing. You can edit a 4K iMovie in 64 bits. You are paying more for the iphone because if the new tech; not just one thing.


Apps don't open faster under oled.


Since 2013 growth has been unbeaten.


One example was given above.


Sharp started the trend; it was the catalyst.


You just fell into your own trap of claiming we don't know the reasons "people" upgrade and then list some reasons. I think he does find the upgrade substantial enough.


Yes less features, less price.


No Apple is not. Apple thinks finally(and we'll see if it's true) oled won't give them a bad name.; pink screen, burn in, uneven wear and color shifting etc
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We don't know what "premium" features the next iPhone has over the note (as the iPhone is unannounced). However the iPhone will work with the Apple Pencil.

Apple has chosen to differentiate its mid-tier line more than Samsung, is the way I would view it.

It doesn't have any. Unless they want claim the facial recognition but the note has iris scanning. We know all the main feature android it doesn't have anyhting on the note 8 other than the fact that it runs iOS if that is important to you.

We've not heard anything about the iPhone 8 working with the Apple Pencil.

The price difference between the note 8 and the S8 plus isn't as vast as the price difference between the iPhone 8 and the the 7S plus.
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I can see it now "Apple engineers created a display that has true blacks, its magical"

Jonny Ives will going into overdrive.
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So yes a 6.4 inch iPhone is incoming. As you said it doesnt take much to know this



Partly. I also upgraded my phone because I got bored with it


Its a faster car. Thats user facing



Its got a better engine. Hence pay $500000 more. I am paying double $800 more because of the better display. Both of them have displays. iPhone 7 is better. Iphone 8 is even better



In order to open apps or type you have to stare at the screen and that screen is a night and day difference with OLED



iPhone 6 growth chart is unbeaten. The iPhone 7 and 6s have lost in at least 1 quarter in a year. The iPhone 8 will be the first iPhone to smash records in all 4 quarters



You told me some theoretical stuff. What real world advantage did it give me as far as user experience goes


Sharp's phone still has bezels. It simply reduced them while Samsung was reducing bezels since 2011



A person can upgrade for a varied amount of reasons. A person does not upgrade for just 1 reason. he just doesnt find the upgrade alluring enough for the price


But the question is is the lack of a stylus really a compromise? Because thats about the only difference between S8 and Note 8


Android has had OLED displays for years. Lets be real here. The major game changer about the iPhone 8 is the OLED display but Apple's treating it like they invented OLED for the price they are charging

It's not a game changer for me unless you live inside an apple bubble.

 

[Radon87000]

It's not a game changer for me unless you live inside an apple bubble.

Its almost a sidegrade if you own a Note 8. The only thing I can say is Apple took a good hard look at the Android competition when coming up with this
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I can see it now "Apple engineers created a display that has true blacks, its magical"

Displaymate- The iPhone Edition has the best display on the planet alongside the Note 8.

You heard it here first
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Jonny Ives will going into overdrive.

I can almost imagine Jony Ive crying going in the short clip when he introduces how Apple invented OLED.

 

[jeyf]

they just take your money, its NOT magic really

 

[Zaft]

Its almost a sidegrade if you own a Note 8. The only thing I can say is Apple took a good hard look at the Android competition when coming up with this
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Displaymate- The iPhone Edition has the best display on the planet alongside the Note 8.

You heard it here first
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Jony Ive is going to shed tears in the short clip just introducing that display,its that good.

I am looking forward to see Apple's Face ID. If they can get it to work reliably in the dark it will be a big win.

 

[Radon87000]

I am looking forward to see Apple's Face ID. If they can get it to work reliably in the dark it will be a big win.

I am curious if they will touch upon the absence of TouchID in the iPhone 8. If they don’t it’s almost a certainty it’s coming back next year in the S cycle.

 

[Zaft]

I am curious if they will touch upon the absence of TouchID in the iPhone 8. If they don’t it’s almost a certainty it’s coming back next year in the S cycle.

I think its going to come back in the iPhone 8S. This phone is very much a beta test, I will pass on it even though it will be tempting.
My 7 Plus is fine for now, I just wish it was smaller.

 

[spinedoc77]

If Android actually came up with a proper iPad competitor and Android wear, I would ditch iOS for good. Its thanks to the AW and iPad, I have to get the iPhone for the complete experience.

This... I'm really disappointed in Google for ignoring tablets and not putting a lot of emphasis into watches. Actually zero emphasis on watch hardware. I just get miffed with all the lackluster decisions they make, they really are the new Microsoft. Don't let me forget multiple, redundant, often unsupported messaging apps, and of course the incredibly bad fragmentation. Don't get me wrong I'm an Android fan, but I still find plenty of reasons to stay on iOS even though it's primitive and proprietary.

 

[Roadstar]

This... I'm really disappointed in Google for ignoring tablets and not putting a lot of emphasis into watches. Actually zero emphasis on watch hardware. I just get miffed with all the lackluster decisions they make, they really are the new Microsoft. Don't let me forget multiple, redundant, often unsupported messaging apps, and of course the incredibly bad fragmentation. Don't get me wrong I'm an Android fan, but I still find plenty of reasons to stay on iOS even though it's primitive and proprietary.

Exactly. I'm also balancing between both platforms and while my Huawei Watch looks much better than my Apple Watch, the overall user experience is still better on the Apple Watch despite it requiring the occasional wrist acrobatics to have it actually tell the time (imagine that, who'd need that on a watch). I would actually forgive them quite a lot in the tablet space if they brought an up-to-date successor to the Nexus 7. That little beast was awesome bang for the buck and for that price I could live with the not-quite-iPad experience knowing that at least my software is kept up to date, unlike the vast majority of Android tablets out there. I wouldn't input even my MacRumors password into the crappy Huawei budget tablet with ancient software that was an impulse purchase, let alone more important credentials.

Earlier this year it looked like I was going full-on Android as I was becoming convinced that Apple Pay is never making it here and I had gotten into the habit of paying with my Android phone. However, now that they've promised Apple Pay also to Finland, I'll wait to try it out first before any major decisions, especially when at the same time of the Apple Pay news I lost quite a bit of trust in OnePlus due to their inexcusable handling of the Secure Box case. The longevity of support is one thing that plays currently in iPhone's favor. Even though almost any phone isn't going to hit its support limit in my personal use, my family still benefits from the hand-me-downs and I don't feel good about giving them phones that aren't maintained anymore software-wise.

The Google messaging mess is also horrifying to watch, but I don't care about it that much as most of my contacts use either WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger and those are equally available on both iOS and Android.

Oh, I almost forgot about TV. I have both the current Apple TV and a Nexus Player (i.e. Android TV) hooked up to my TV, and currently no one in the family would notice if the Nexus Player broke down or disappeared as no one's using that when the current Apple TV is also available.

 

[Radon87000]

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/08/ios-11-gm-d22-iphone-8-details/

The entire GM version of iOS 11 leaked. New wallpapers. TrueTone display confirmed on the OLED iPhone 8.(I am betting on ProMotion as well) Revised AirPods incoming. LTE Apple Watch with red crown and all complications showing standalone navigation leaked.
Portrait Lighting an enhancement of the portrait mode is also on the iPhone 8.

Display resolution of iPhone 8 is waaay higher than 7S Plus at 2436X1125

Nice job with yet another controlled leak Apple.
[doublepost=1504931895][/doublepost]I wouldn’t be surprised if the slides and the entire PowerPoint presentation slides leaked at this point hahahaha.

No surprises for me whatsoever at the event. Just got to hang on to my 7 Plus till my beautiful OLED iPhone 8 arrives.

 

[Roadstar]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the slides and the entire PowerPoint presentation slides leaked at this point hahahaha.

The real surprise in that case would be that it's PowerPoint instead of Keynote slides

In that case they would also gain an additional renewable energy source from the high-powered turbine in the place that was formerly known as Steve's grave.

 

[Radon87000]

Downloading and installing the leaked GM to my iPad Pro 12.9 2nd gen now LOL

Tim Cook is gonna go ballistic when he wakes up tomorrow to find out not only have the Keynote goodies been leaked but people have already installed the GM on their phones.

What makes this even funnier is that the download link downloads from Apple's servers

Might as well cancel the event and put up the products for preorder. We know everything at this point

 

[The Game 161]

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/08/ios-11-gm-d22-iphone-8-details/

The entire GM version of iOS 11 leaked. New wallpapers. TrueTone display confirmed on the OLED iPhone 8.(I am betting on ProMotion as well) Revised AirPods incoming. LTE Apple Watch with red crown and all complications showing standalone navigation leaked.
Portrait Lighting an enhancement of the portrait mode is also on the iPhone 8.

Display resolution of iPhone 8 is waaay higher than 7S Plus at 2436X1125

Nice job with yet another controlled leak Apple.
[doublepost=1504931895][/doublepost]I wouldn’t be surprised if the slides and the entire PowerPoint presentation slides leaked at this point hahahaha.

No surprises for me whatsoever at the event. Just got to hang on to my 7 Plus till my beautiful OLED iPhone 8 arrives.

Yep now the waiting to get the phone begins..you getting the new watch? I think i will keep my series 2 personally. Can't see any major upgrades apart from speed.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Downloading and installing the leaked GM to my iPad Pro 12.9 2nd gen now LOL

Tim Cook is gonna go ballistic when he wakes up tomorrow to find out not only have the Keynote goodies been leaked but people have already installed the GM on their phones.

What makes this even funnier is that the download link downloads from Apple's servers

Might as well cancel the event and put up the products for preorder. We know everything at this point

Where is the link to download iOS 11?

 

[Radon87000]

Where is the link to download iOS 11?

Apple stopped signing it right after I installed it lol. But the damage has been done.

It’s the same Public Beta 10 which is the Release version. It just has extra wallpapers.

The home button lag is still there though. My iPhone 6 goes faster to the home screen than the 7 Plus. What a joke.

 

[Radon87000]

Yep now the waiting to get the phone begins..you getting the new watch? I think i will keep my series 2 personally. Can't see any major upgrades apart from speed.

I am still on Series 0 Watch they first released. I always have my phone on me all the time so the LTE feature is not useful to me. I use my Watch only for fitness and notification purposes so I won’t upgrade it until there is a dramatic improvement in functionality or when Apple stops supporting it.

 

[Radon87000]

For those who think I am trolling with the home button delay I have made a 20 second clip proving how on iOS 11 the iPhone 7 Plus is slower than an iPhone 6 on iOS 10. That's right the 7 plus is slower than the iPhone 6. Yet again another phone slowed down by Apple to make the 7s seem faster

https://streamable.com/6s01k

And where are those members who told me "But but it's a beta." Guess what? Beta 10 is the release version.

I will later make another video showing how the iPhone 7 Plus takes as long as an iPad Air 2 on iOS 10 to boot i.e. Double the time it took on iOS 10.3.3.
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A 64 bit phone has a faster engine as well, that's user facing. You can edit a 4K iMovie in 64 bits. You are paying more for the iphone because if the new tech; not just one thing.

So you mean to tell me that its not possible to make a processor as fast as the A9 in a 6s without it being 64 bit?

Apps don't open faster under oled.

You need OLED to open the apps in the first place

Since 2013 growth has been unbeaten.

Read my post again. The growth chart of the iPhone 6 is unbeaten
https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/07/iphone-revenue-2017/

"In a note seen by Business Insider, Guggenheim predicts a return to growth this year, based on the launch of the new flagship model, followed by dramatic growth next year – though not topping that seen when Apple finally made larger-screen models with the launch of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus."

Sharp started the trend; it was the catalyst.

Samsung had already reduced bezel size before Sharp

You just fell into your own trap of claiming we don't know the reasons "people" upgrade and then list some reasons. I think he does find the upgrade substantial enough.

I said I dont know why he upgraded. He didnt upgrade because he didnt find the product worth the value over the existing one

Yes less features, less price.

Exactly 1 feature is less between the Note 8 and S8 Plus? And how many features less between 7s and iPhone 8?

No Apple is not. Apple thinks finally(and we'll see if it's true) oled won't give them a bad name.; pink screen, burn in, uneven wear and color shifting etc

Not "think". They know it wont because Samsung has been winning display awards for over 4 years now

We don't know what "premium" features the next iPhone has over the note (as the iPhone is unannounced). However the iPhone will work with the Apple Pencil.

We already have the GM and there is nothing about Apple Pencil compatibility in it

Apple has chosen to differentiate its mid-tier line more than Samsung, is the way I would view it.

Exactly. However the iPhone 8 is making the 7s look like a low end product rather than mid tier. Just look at the exclusive features of the iPhone 8 in today'S gm build on 9to5mac

 

[I7guy]

So you mean to tell me that its not possible to make a processor as fast as the A9 in a 6s without it being 64 bit?

Why would they? 32 bit in today's world is yesterday's naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines.

You need OLED to open the apps in the first place

So only oled is capable of opening apps?

Read my post again. The growth chart of the iPhone 6 is unbeaten
https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/07/iphone-revenue-2017/

"In a note seen by Business Insider, Guggenheim predicts a return to growth this year, based on the launch of the new flagship model, followed by dramatic growth next year – though not topping that seen when Apple finally made larger-screen models with the launch of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus."

Read my post again. Since TC took office there were a string of record breaking quarters. Where these next two quarters fall in is a guess. But the 5s starting the trend in spite of the lack of love for ios 7.

Samsung had already reduced bezel size before Sharp

Not as much as Sharp did in 2014. Sharp clearly started the trend. Samsung copied it, and took it further.

I said I dont know why he upgraded. He didnt upgrade because he didnt find the product worth the value over the existing one

I think you are moving the goal posts here, people upgrade for reasons of their own.

Exactly 1 feature is less between the Note 8 and S8 Plus? And how many features less between 7s and iPhone 8?

Screen is different, pen, size, ram, processor, battery and I'm sure there's a laundry list more of more than one feature. You're just cherry-picking.

Not "think". They know it wont because Samsung has been winning display awards for over 4 years now

Is that why apple had the title for the most accurate display ever in the last 4 years beating oled?

We already have the GM and there is nothing about Apple Pencil compatibility in it

Doesn't mean it won't happen.

Exactly. However the iPhone 8 is making the 7s look like a low end product rather than mid tier. Just look at the exclusive features of the iPhone 8 in today'S gm build on 9to5mac

A mid-tier is still a mid-tier. The s8 is a mid-tier the s7 is the low tier. I'll wait for the reveal until Shiller or Federighi actually show the "real" features.

As a side-note, I said much earlier, the real leaks surface 2 days before the reveal, when it is almost impossible to stop corporate espionage as all of the manufacturing is in full swing. True to form: 3,2,1...

 

[Radon87000]

Newer Apple Watch also has Blush Gold and gray options.

Also this is the new status bar animation for the iPhone 8. Looks awesome.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/09/heres-how-the-iphone-8-status-bar-will-accommodate-the-notch/

This picture is so apt at this point lol

I think the leak was intentional. The Keynote just can't cover this much info on the iPhone 8 in a short amount of time so they conveyed it in this manner. Don't forget the Homepod leak. Apple isn't this incompetent.
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Why would they? 32 bit in today's world is yesterday's naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines.


So only oled is capable of opening apps?


Read my post again. Since TC took office there were a string of record breaking quarters. Where these next two quarters fall in is a guess. But the 5s starting the trend in spite of the lack of love for ios 7.


Not as much as Sharp did in 2014. Sharp clearly started the trend. Samsung copied it, and took it further.


I think you are moving the goal posts here, people upgrade for reasons of their own.


Screen is different, pen, size, ram, processor, battery and I'm sure there's a laundry list more of more than one feature. You're just cherry-picking.


Is that why apple had the title for the most accurate display ever in the last 4 years beating oled?


Doesn't mean it won't happen.


A mid-tier is still a mid-tier. The s8 is a mid-tier the s7 is the low tier. I'll wait for the reveal until Shiller or Federighi actually show the "real" features.

As a side-note, I said much earlier, the real leaks surface 2 days before the reveal, when it is almost impossible to stop corporate espionage as all of the manufacturing is in full swing. True to form: 3,2,1...

Actually we knew all about the iPhone 8 long before this leak. The GM leak is only telling us new software tidbits and certain small information about iPhone 8

The game changer is the curved edge beselless oled display.

BTW has an entire OS leaked before like this? I don't think so.