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Another interesting and IMO very valid take on this is that we are spending less on other technology, thus being able to prioritize our spending. The article I read went on to say a lot of our technology has dropped in price, some of it dramatically. Who would have thought you could get a 55" 4k TV for under 1k? Now couple that with where consumers eyeballs are going and what value they place on what they spend all day looking at. So something like a 1k iPhone is looked at in context as lets say one slice in a pie chart of tech spending a consumer makes.
 
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Another interesting and IMO very valid take on this is that we are spending less on other technology, thus being able to prioritize our spending. The article I read went on to say a lot of our technology has dropped in price, some of it dramatically. Who would have thought you could get a 55" 4k TV for under 1k? Now couple that with where consumers eyeballs are going and what value they place on what they spend all day looking at. So something like a 1k iPhone is looked at in context as lets say one slice in a pie chart of tech spending a consumer makes.

This is what you read:

Analysts suggest consumers will pay $999+ price of iPhone X as they prioritize spending


Did anybody seriously think the iPhone X wasn't going to sell even at $999+?

lulz.
 
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Another interesting and IMO very valid take on this is that we are spending less on other technology, thus being able to prioritize our spending. The article I read went on to say a lot of our technology has dropped in price, some of it dramatically. Who would have thought you could get a 55" 4k TV for under 1k? Now couple that with where consumers eyeballs are going and what value they place on what they spend all day looking at. So something like a 1k iPhone is looked at in context as lets say one slice in a pie chart of tech spending a consumer makes.
I think we are spending less on technology including smartphones though. In today's market you don't need to spend anywhere near £1k to get a top level smartphone. The new iPhone X is an exception and one that may be exclusive to general trends, we don't know yet. My 4K television cost me £499 the year before last and the first flat screen I bought in 2005 cost me £1600. I don't factor the falling prices of other tech into my justifications for my phone budget though. It's irrelevant to me as each purchase is exclusive and judged on principle and merit.

I think the fact manufacturers are worried not enough people are upgrading regularly enough suggests the market is slower than it was only 2 years ago. The market is tighter and no single phone stands out as the best anymore. In the UK the iPhone 7 struggled in comparison to previous iPhone releases and supposedly more iPhones are sold here than any other country in Europe. I think the iPhone X will sell well, but I doubt it will sell as well as other models from the past purely because it's no longer as affordable. It'll have its market and the cheaper iPhones will have there's. I also doubt the true figure will ever be known.

Trends are also different depending on the country. The US is very different from the UK as it's economy is more stable at present. This in turn determines spending habits etc.
 
Another interesting and IMO very valid take on this is that we are spending less on other technology, thus being able to prioritize our spending. The article I read went on to say a lot of our technology has dropped in price, some of it dramatically. Who would have thought you could get a 55" 4k TV for under 1k? Now couple that with where consumers eyeballs are going and what value they place on what they spend all day looking at. So something like a 1k iPhone is looked at in context as lets say one slice in a pie chart of tech spending a consumer makes.
yeah I mean my LG 4K 55 inch TV only cost me £600
 
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I think we are spending less on technology including smartphones though. In today's market you don't need to spend anywhere near £1k to get a top level smartphone. The new iPhone X is an exception and one that may be exclusive to general trends, we don't know yet. My 4K television cost me £499 the year before last and the first flat screen I bought in 2005 cost me £1600. I don't factor the falling prices of other tech into my justifications for my phone budget though. It's irrelevant to me as each purchase is exclusive and judged on principle and merit.

I think the fact manufacturers are worried not enough people are upgrading regularly enough suggests the market is slower than it was only 2 years ago. The market is tighter and no single phone stands out as the best anymore. In the UK the iPhone 7 struggled in comparison to previous iPhone releases and supposedly more iPhones are sold here than any other country in Europe. I think the iPhone X will sell well, but I doubt it will sell as well as other models from the past purely because it's no longer as affordable. It'll have its market and the cheaper iPhones will have there's. I also doubt the true figure will ever be known.

Trends are also different depending on the country. The US is very different from the UK as it's economy is more stable at present. This in turn determines spending habits etc.

Maybe some are, but it seems like the more exorbitant, higher end market is growing fast as well. I think a large part of that is just consumers prioritizing their spending. You may look at purchases individually, maybe you have enough of an income where you don't have to allot a certain amount to categories. But most consumers have to be aware of how much they spend and will prioritize what they spend on. So instead of spending $2k on that television just a few years ago, now they can get it for $1k and feel like they have the breathing room to spend $1k on a smartphone. They will further justify it because they know they use that smartphone a heck of a lot more than that TV. Add the payment plans to the mix and that $45/month gives the illusion of not spending 1k. But I'm trying not to generalize, not everyone thinks this way.

For myself it's not that difficult, higher priced iPhone means higher resale and most likely I am spending the same as I spend on a lower priced iPhone. After I sell last years iPhone and factor in all costs I find it costs me $300-$400 per year, which is similar if I just got on a monthly plan and upgraded every year through Apple. That's an acceptable cost for me versus my need for a phone.
 
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Maybe some are, but it seems like the more exorbitant, higher end market is growing fast as well. I think a large part of that is just consumers prioritizing their spending. You may look at purchases individually, maybe you have enough of an income where you don't have to allot a certain amount to categories. But most consumers have to be aware of how much they spend and will prioritize what they spend on. So instead of spending $2k on that television just a few years ago, now they can get it for $1k and feel like they have the breathing room to spend $1k on a smartphone. They will further justify it because they know they use that smartphone a heck of a lot more than that TV. Add the payment plans to the mix and that $45/month gives the illusion of not spending 1k. But I'm trying not to generalize, not everyone thinks this way.

For myself it's not that difficult, higher priced iPhone means higher resale and most likely I am spending the same as I spend on a lower priced iPhone. After I sell last years iPhone and factor in all costs I find it costs me $300-$400 per year, which is similar if I just got on a monthly plan and upgraded every year through Apple. That's an acceptable cost for me versus my need for a phone.
I'd say I'm an average earner £30k+ and my wife is the same. We have a comfortable lifestyle but we still prioritise our spending. This is why a £1000 iPhone seems pretty absurd. I still don't understand why a phone that provides the same experience as previous iPhones suddenly costs £400 more? I just can't justify it, even if I split it down into daily expense etc to try and fool myself into thinking it's worth it. I still know how much it costs in my mind.

I have another year to look into this though. It's highly likely i'll do what I did last year and just buy the last years iPhone on a cheaper contract. I haven't regretted it with the 6S and maybe by next year the iPhone 7S/8 will be significantly cheaper again.
 
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I'd say I'm an average earner £30k+ and my wife is the same. We have a comfortable lifestyle but we still prioritise our spending. This is why a £1000 iPhone seems pretty absurd. I still don't understand why a phone that provides the same experience as previous iPhones suddenly costs £400 more? I just can't justify it, even if I split it down into daily expense etc to try and fool myself into thinking it's worth it. I still know how much it costs in my mind.

I have another year to look into this though. It's highly likely i'll do what I did last year and just buy the last years iPhone on a cheaper contract. I haven't regretted it with the 6S and maybe by next year the iPhone 7S/8 will be significantly cheaper again.

Everyone has priorities. Can you buy a cheaper car? House? Clothes? Food? Dining out? Shows? Cable service? Internet speed? I could go on and on and on, but you get the point. We all prioritize where we spend our money on. That's why I don't understand someone calling me foolish for spending 1k on a phone (I'm not saying you are, just in general). They don't know what else I've de-prioritized or how the phone fits into my budget. But then again I'm not going to spend $1k on the iPhone X, I'll keep it for a year and my net cost will be closer to $300-400 for the year.
 
I hope this stockout rumour is just hype as usual. If stock will only be available in January, I might as well wait for the next reveal as no doubt by Jan rumours and leaks regarding the next iPhone will start pouring in and make this one seem less enticing.
 
Everyone has priorities. Can you buy a cheaper car? House? Clothes? Food? Dining out? Shows? Cable service? Internet speed? I could go on and on and on, but you get the point. We all prioritize where we spend our money on. That's why I don't understand someone calling me foolish for spending 1k on a phone (I'm not saying you are, just in general). They don't know what else I've de-prioritized or how the phone fits into my budget. But then again I'm not going to spend $1k on the iPhone X, I'll keep it for a year and my net cost will be closer to $300-400 for the year.

I get the point I was making yes. You're right a £1k phone is not on my list of priorities. Others are free to prioritise their spending as they wish and I'd never say otherwise. This doesn't mean I can't criticise Apple for taking the mick out of us with this release. If anything this has made me reevaluate how much I'm willing to spend on a mobile phone and Apple are losing my money going forward. It's far from being my loss.
 
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I think this is right:

By releasing what is essentially the 2018 iPhone in a very early and very limited edition, the Cupertino company is getting the benefits of both experimentation and exclusivity.

Apple’s iPhone X will stand for ‘exclusive’


Can't wait to see this become official for Apple.
So this model doesn't get a succcessor next year. So is this pricing a one time thing or are they jacking up prices of both 9 and 9 plus next year?
 
I get the point I was making yes. You're right a £1k phone is not on my list of priorities. Others are free to prioritise their spending as they wish and I'd never say otherwise. This doesn't mean I can't criticise Apple for taking the mick out of us with this release. If anything this has made me reevaluate how much I'm willing to spend on a mobile phone and Apple are losing my money going forward. It's far from being my loss.

I don't blame you, the only power consumers have are choosing to not buy a product.
 
Analysts predicting 227.5M iPhone sales this year en-route to ‘the trillion-dollar iPhone’

The company expects sales of the OLED model to be significant not just for Apple but for the smartphone sector as a whole …

Among the three 10th anniversary iPhone models that will be released, the premium 5.8-inch model will come with an AMOLED display. The introduction of an AMOLED iPhone will help expedite the AMOLED adoption in the smartphone market. TrendForce forecasts that around 43% of smartphones shipped worldwide in 2020 will feature the AMOLED display.
 
Leaks today say expect a 512GB storage option for the iphone x...interesting maybe those storage options will be easier to get?
 
Leaks today say expect a 512GB storage option for the iphone x...interesting maybe those storage options will be easier to get?
I dont think it will tbh. People are going to buy whatever model comes online irrespective of color or size if the reports of shortage turn out to be true. A delay of 3 months for the exact color and size I want will put me in a position wherein the iPhone has already completed a quarter of its product cycle.
 
Analysts predicting 227.5M iPhone sales this year en-route to ‘the trillion-dollar iPhone’

The company expects sales of the OLED model to be significant not just for Apple but for the smartphone sector as a whole …

Among the three 10th anniversary iPhone models that will be released, the premium 5.8-inch model will come with an AMOLED display. The introduction of an AMOLED iPhone will help expedite the AMOLED adoption in the smartphone market. TrendForce forecasts that around 43% of smartphones shipped worldwide in 2020 will feature the AMOLED display.
I really cant wait to see how Apple will describe OLED.
 
Apparently Apple's own wireless charger could be delayed because they're waiting for a breakthrough...


iPhone X wireless charging won't be available at launch, report suggests


TechnoBuffalo reports that Kuo has issued a note to investors stating that Apple’s first-party wireless simply won't be ready for release in time for the new crop of iPhones. Don't worry, though, the iPhone X and all supposed incremental upgrades over last year's models (supposedly called the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus), will most likely all boast wireless charging capabilities, it's just that Apple's first-party wireless charging device won't be ready at launch, according to Kuo.

What's more interesting, is that the analyst claims that Apple wants to wait for "technological breakthroughs" before releasing a wireless charging accessory, which could move the launch date of such an accessory to the not-so-immediate future.



Interest piqued.
 
Another new feature that the iPhone X will adopt? Something called "Attention" where the iPhone X will keep the screen on and prevent the device from sleeping if it detects your eyes are staring at the screen.

Sound famililar to anyone?
 
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Another new feature that the iPhone X will adopt? Something called "Attention" where the iPhone X will keep the screen on and prevent the device from sleeping if it detects your eyes are staring at the screen.

Sound famililar to anyone?
Wow amazing. Apple have invented such an amazing feature.


Eh hold on wasn't there something called smart stay from 2012 lol
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Leaks today say expect a 512GB storage option for the iphone x...interesting maybe those storage options will be easier to get?
I think they will make less of the higher capacity devices as they expect to sell less of those so that could effect how soon you are able to get it.
 
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Wow amazing. Apple have invented such an amazing feature.

No, not inventing. Perfecting.

You see, if Apple is first to introduce a feature, they're innovators. And everyone else after are copycats. If Apple isn't first with a feature, then they're simply perfecting existing technology for the mainstream consumer.

With this sort of argument and branding, you can't lose. And it's the reason why the iPhone X is going to be a big deal.
 
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No, not inventing. Perfecting.

You see, if Apple is first to introduce a feature, they're innovators. And everyone else after are copycats. If Apple isn't first with a feature, then they're simply perfecting existing technology for the mainstream consumer.

With this sort of argument and branding, you can't lose. And it's the reason why the iPhone X is going to be a big deal.
When has apple really been the first to anything? Even apple admits this.
 
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