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I changed my mind about 'the notch' after reading this thread

  • Yes - I liked it more

    Votes: 53 21.4%
  • Yes - I liked it less

    Votes: 28 11.3%
  • No - It didn't change

    Votes: 119 48.0%
  • ERHMAGHERD APPLE Y U DO DIS

    Votes: 48 19.4%

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MacQork

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I'm more interested in what's behind the notch. After the initial rush is over and I read what, if any, problems the X has I might get one.

Indeed that's my strategy as well, let the early-early adopters check it out (flashback to the yellow screen last year and antenna gate etc), I'll check it in a store and then I'll probably buy it if it looks great and the adopters love it.
 

9594864

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You're funny. I remember all your pre-keynote posts where you mocked, in that uber-opinionated fashion of yours, folks who believed Apple would embrace the notch. You just need to let it go, man. The notch is distinctive, iconic and honest. Sir Jony was right and you were wrong. It happens. Just embrace the notch and you'll feel much better.
The comment you quoted me on was me stating facts, nothing more. The notch draws your attention, that’s an objective truth. It’s an unfortunate reality, like the embarrassment that is Apple software design now.
 
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Geert76

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I'm more interested in what's behind the notch. After the initial rush is over and I read what, if any, problems the X has I might get one.

you know when ordering ''after the initial rush is over'', so lets say a week after the pre orders are done, there is a huge chance you can not just simply get one but you could be mostlikely facing shipping times somewhere in february/march 2018, right? ;)
And the units wich will be available for purchase in the (offline)Apple Stores will mostlikely being sold out in about 2.5 seconds in the weeks after the pre orders are done.
 

MjWoNeR

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Agreed. I think most people will opt to watch video with bars that will black out the notch. However, that makes the viewable area considerably smaller which is still a bit of a downside. Personally, I wouldn't mind the notch much on a short youtube video but it's a no-go on a TV show. I do watch TV while waiting for the subway at times or on a break.

When browsing the web or in apps, I think the notch is a non-issue and people are making a big deal out of nothing. Also, over time content providers will get creative with it and figure out ways to tastefully integrate it or black out the top portion of the screen.

Agreed. Also a fellow user calculated that when watching a TV show (16/9 aspect ratio) with black bars, the effective size of the screen on the X is 5". So it is at least a bit bigger than the 4.7" iPhone.
Furthermore black bars on an OLED screen must be a different (better) experience than on a common backlit LCD.
 

betabeta

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It should always be black straight across and have the time, battery and other functions showing all the time. You could do this with OLED with minimal battery impact, in landscape it should just be a full black bar. Otherwise it’s a crime against good design.

If I was an app designer, I would just have it black bar straight across or black with some form of info if warranted.

It’s not a cool design, it’s a compromise, no matter what spin they try to put on it.
 

44267547

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I'm more interested in what's behind the notch. After the initial rush is over and I read what, if any, problems the X has I might get one.

I'm interested once Ifixit does a tear down of the iPhone X and shows how much technology is incorporated into that notch. I know many don't like it, but it's fairly incredible to see the sensors and technology that is involved in that notch.
 

Geert76

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I'm interested once Ifixit does a tear down of the iPhone X and shows how much technology is incorporated into that notch. I know many don't like it, but it's fairly incredible to see the sensors and technology that is involved in that notch.

yeah, that's a way to justify the beauty of that notch.
I agree on the fact that there's some incredible technology involved in that notch, you even get, as a user, get the bonus of staring the whole day at that technology ;)
 
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Smeaton1724

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The notch is fine, a feature that is unique and also has practical purpose gets a big thumb up from me. I don't like horizontal mode on the X, the browsing area is smaller than the Plus. I guess I'll be waiting for the inevitable iPhone X Plus.
 

THE JUICEMAN

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Would I prefer it without the notch? Of course. Do I have a choice if I want the latest and greatest that Apple has to offer? Nope. So I’ll just have to live with it.
 
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Geert76

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for anyone who likes to know how that notch will work out in daily use.

here is an experiment you can do tonight;

- take an empty (plastic) bottle..lay it down on your table in front of you,located at your couch where you are watching TV. Make sure that the empty bottle on the table is in sight between (a little bit in sight is allready enough) you and the TV.

Now enjoy your favorite series/movie along with the empty bottle on the table ( = notch)
 

stabile007

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One image I would like to see is the affect on games the notch will have. I fully hope developers take advantage and put things like stats there but out of the box its probably not going to be pretty.
 

Starfyre

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Hey all,

I have been following the forum the past few days and a lot of threads came up about the notch. Not a single thread had clear photos/mock-ups showing how the notch will look. So this got me thinking and I realised there was an option in Xcode where you could simulate iDevices. I immediately downloaded the newest Xcode version and started the 'simulation' mode (btw this is a real recommendation if you're not sure about the notch).

Seeing it 'live' for the first time made me feel at ease. It looked so much better than I had imagined of off Apple's site and video/photos from bloggers with bad angles, cus you know, no one can make decent videos nowadays, it all has to be quick and flashy, anyway I digress.

Time for pictures!

I am still using my iPhone 5s I bought when it came out and comparing it to the X is mind-blowing. The X is so much larger! (There is a setting in the simulation called 'actual size' which I tested with my iPhone 5s and it was exactly the same size on my screen as it was in my hand - note this will vary because I made screenshots, you'll have to fire up Xcode yourself for a real comparison).

// EDIT made some mistakes with regards to scaling (apparently 'actual size' doesn't work yet for iPhone X in Xcode simulation) + added landscape photos

iPhone 5s vs. iPhone X

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iPhone 5s vs. iPhone 7 vs. iPhone 7+ vs. iPhone X

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iPhone X Landscape Calendar

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iPhone X Landscape Contacts

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iPhone X Landscape iMessage

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iPhone X Landscape Youtube Search

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iPhone X Landscape Youtube Video

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iPhone X Landscape Right-Side Calendar

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iPhone X Landscape Right-Side Contacts

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iPhone X Landscape Right-Side iMessage

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iPhone X Calendar Overview

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iPhone X Calendar Dayview

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iPhone X Safari

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Miscellaneous

iPhone X Photos
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iPhone X homescreen black

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iPhone X homescreen Apps

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Thanks for updating with landscape photos! That iMessage Landscape Mode looks horrible, why is the name off center? Is that for real?
 

AJsAWiz

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One image I would like to see is the affect on games the notch will have. I fully hope developers take advantage and put things like stats there but out of the box its probably not going to be pretty.

Interesting question . . . personally, I've found the notch no more annoying then I find the frame typical in most phones.
 
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iceterminal

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I noticed in all of the pictures the OP presents, each one was the notch against a white background. I feel this was done intentionally to highlight and emphasize an opinion towards one side. i.e. lead you to a specific outcome.

Hopefully people are smart and educated enough to see through this facade and judge on an equal basis of all backgrounds provided by each application individually, and not be lead by the nose.
 
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ImBuz

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I noticed my epic fail and edited the original post accordingly, please check again and share your thoughts

(edited the scales and added landscape)
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That's what I'm going to do. These pics made me optimistic tho, but will still definitely check the X out at an Apple store before throwing my money at it
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AJsAWiz

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I noticed in all of the pictures the OP presents, each one was the notch against a white background. I feel this was done intentionally to highlight and emphasize an opinion towards one side. i.e. lead you to a specific outcome.

Hopefully people are smart and educated enough to see through this facade and judge on an equal basis of all backgrounds provided by each application individually, and not be lead by the nose.

That is true
 

Geert76

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as the new article on the frontpage of this website regarding the possible extra delays with the iPhone X, your chances of stopping by an Apple Store and try an iPhone X and walking out the door with one is mostlikely almost impossible.

Its gonna be either;

- pre order (so without testing and feeling it yourself) on the 27th and hope you get one before Christmas, or
- go to your nearest Apple Store as soon the X demo models are there (this will be AFTER the pre orders are over), feel one yourself and test it out. Go back home, order one and see your estimated shipping times ''12-19 March 2018''

Chances this year will be even less then last years jetblack iPhone 7. That color was backordered for months.
Heck, they even had the jetblack iPhone 7 (Plus) in most stores for weeks/months, or just a few every morning which were reserved in 2,5 seconds
 

fiveainone

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Edited the Original Post;

Awesome! I think I do like it on the right way better. We all read from left to right, this actually feels like edge to edge at first glance. Thanks for this, helps with the decision to yay or nay the X.
 

tommyparadise

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Imagine I'd be ok with portrait use, but viewing content on iPhone X in landscape with the "notch" doesn't look like something I would get used to fast. And for a $1800-2100 NZD phone (we get ruined $-wise) there shouldn't be things I have to 'get used' to.

So went for the 8 plus which ticks all my boxes, save for fitting into tight jeans & creating imessages as a talking s**t.
 
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Geert76

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imagine Samsung came up with a phone with this notch... People here at the forums would take the complete piss out of it (yeah come on, you iPhone X ''fan'' know this ;) ), but hey..its Apple, so then all of the sudden The Notch is okay :D
 
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