I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen apples software lately? They don't have it together anymore. It makes me want to abandon my favorite electronics company for something from HTC or Motorola.
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Enough with Dark Mode, it isn't possible!
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I'm not so sure about that. Have you seen apples software lately? They don't have it together anymore. It makes me want to abandon my favorite electronics company for something from HTC or Motorola.
This is not true for tvOS anymore, it has full support for it. Developers can adopt a dark style. iOS does not even have a dark mode yet. When people here talk about a dark mode in relation to iOS, they do not refer to that half-arsed implementation in OS X, but something similar to what tvOS is doing, something that looks like the Watch app on iOS. Chances are awfully good that Apple will consider a full dark mode if they are planning to adopt OLED. That inevitably means that Apple must swap out as much white as possible to get the most out of this, so this would have to extend to all UIKit components, and I mean all of them.
If Apple does introduce a dark mode to iOS, then they will very likely offer APIs for this so that developers can adapt their app. It really is not that difficult. In fact, just yesterday, after I wrote that post, I learned that Apple actually added these APIs for tvOS. You can change the visual appearance of buttons, text and pretty much all other components based on the chosen style. Developers have full control. As an example, I defined both the background colour of the canvas and the tint color for both the bright and dark style. It can be done in parallel and it will adapt organically at runtime, based on whether the dark mode is enabled or not.
The home screen adapts to your wallpaper already. I am using a very dark one myself and find it pleasant. It is only when I switch into the apps that the white UI becomes a problem. I would be fine with it, if Apple did not do anything special for the home screen, as long as apps can show an alternative design. A dark mode does not need to be monochrome and dark only, it just needs to reduce excessive use of white colour in backgrounds and bars.
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I welcome a dark mode any time (though I personally prefer it bright), but I hope there would be less noise in the forum about the lack of it this particular release.
I would think that even if there were to be a dark mode, it would only be released alongside an OLED iPhone and not before. Apple might only have it as part of iOS 11.2 or something like that, and of course during the demo they will only show apps from a few special developers that were allowed access to the API beforehand.
I would think that even if there were to be a dark mode, it would only be released alongside an OLED iPhone and not before. Apple might only have it as part of iOS 11.2 or something like that, and of course during the demo they will only show apps from a few special developers that were allowed access to the API beforehand.
They would build dark mode exactly as they have for tvOS - dark mode on the TV is not just the main menu, it is the main menu and apps that have been updated to support it. The point of the API is that you can assign two sets of colors, every app before now on tvOS won't support it until the developer updates the app and adds compatibility.
That said, if dark mode was going to be a thing on iOS they would have stated so already, because they are announcing things at a developer conference - meaning these are the people you are telling to implement dark mode in there apps.
That said, if dark mode was going to be a thing on iOS they would have stated so already, because they are announcing things at a developer conference - meaning these are the people you are telling to implement dark mode in there apps.
iOS 10's new elements seem prime for Dark Mode. The new Notifications and Control center would benefit from being darker at night time as they are very bright. I am completely here for it being introduced as a toggle / on a schedule like Night Shift. The new Music app as well is SO bright and would look good with a darker option in the evenings/generally.
I am praying and hoping the mode is enabled before iOS 10 is released to the public, the signs of code give me hope.
An API could then let devs tap into this, many apps already have dark options like Reeder and Tweetbot and they could simply tie their existing themes in to this.
On macOS I think they could easily have the Dark Mode expand to darken the window chrome a bit, and in Sierra change Notification Center to a darker style.
I am praying and hoping the mode is enabled before iOS 10 is released to the public, the signs of code give me hope.
An API could then let devs tap into this, many apps already have dark options like Reeder and Tweetbot and they could simply tie their existing themes in to this.
On macOS I think they could easily have the Dark Mode expand to darken the window chrome a bit, and in Sierra change Notification Center to a darker style.
Developer here. Dark Mode would be very easy to implement. All Apple needs to do is add a few extra color selection choices on Storyboards so we can specify colors for normal mode and colors for Dark Mode. If a developer don't specify a color, the system default Dark Mode colors are used.
To say that dark mode isn't possible just because 3rd party apps exist with their own design is taking it too far. Yes, it does mean there can't be an immediate, universal, all encompassing dark mode. But there are still many key system features and many stock apps, regularly used by many iOS users, where a dark mode would have some immediate impact. And it would still be open for 3rd party apps to join in slowly.
Notifications, widgets, notification centre, control centre, popup windows, stock keyboard, spotlight. all the stock apps. don't forget many people's core iOS experience is stock apps: Phone, Messages, Mail, Safari, .. the list goes on but all stock apps!
The immediate impact would be pretty wide. Then apps could, over a beta period, start to take advantage of the dark mode. Apple would make apps aware of this setting and able to adjust their UI when the setting changes. Not all apps would take advantage of it, but that doesn't mean dark mode isn't possible!
Notifications, widgets, notification centre, control centre, popup windows, stock keyboard, spotlight. all the stock apps. don't forget many people's core iOS experience is stock apps: Phone, Messages, Mail, Safari, .. the list goes on but all stock apps!
The immediate impact would be pretty wide. Then apps could, over a beta period, start to take advantage of the dark mode. Apple would make apps aware of this setting and able to adjust their UI when the setting changes. Not all apps would take advantage of it, but that doesn't mean dark mode isn't possible!
Great post.
Find people saying it's not possible baffling and quite hilarious really! Of course it's bloody possible, and a large and growing swathe of users want it to happen!
No developer would ever say dark mode is not possible, and if they do, they're either a poor developer or have no idea how UIKit works.
Yes its possible and yes Apple is working on it.
http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/16/ios-10-dark-mode-screengrabs/
It was painfully obvious in the keynote that this would all work perfectly in dark mode as they made all the transparency much less transparent and more white.
http://9to5mac.com/2016/06/16/ios-10-dark-mode-screengrabs/
It was painfully obvious in the keynote that this would all work perfectly in dark mode as they made all the transparency much less transparent and more white.
Jeez Apple, when are you going to start focusing on eye-sight, black and a light lavender-blue is easier on the eyes than black and red.
Really ? No app or API can do it? Interesting since News app title bar is dynamic from light to dark depending on the content.......oh yeah, also weather underground app, twitteriffic, ibooks, maps, safari, the itunes store app ALLLLLL have a dynamic dark mode.
#facts
Darkmode on OS X and Apple TV do not affect third party apps and neither would iOS 10.
Perfect reply.
With the plethora of over-confident, angry morons on discussion boards these days, it's easy, and tempting, to respond with disgust & anger. But nothing shuts down cocksure stupidity like the plain simple truth. Well done.
(P.S. dark mode looks great.)
Clearly it's "ridiculous" and "isn't possible!"
Of course it's possible. And third party apps? Apple will provide it in iOS SDK. I've always been a fan of dark themes. I would welcome this option. Played around with the beta before downgrading, the new lock screen widgets, notifications, etc. just looks weird white. A darker theme would make them look better.
Don't be stupid, of course it's "possible".
Implementing a Dark Mode for EVERY app would be near-impossible, because, as you say, all third-party apps have their own design (unless Apple put in a very strict guideline that required apps to have two different UI's but that's very unlikely).
For first-party apps (especially Settings, Music, Mail, Messages, Phone) it's very possible indeed. Even if Apple did this, I think it'd make a lot of people happy.
If Apple leads the way with Dark Mode on their first-party apps, third party developers will likely follow. I've already made the decision to switch to certain apps with "dark themes" over similarly functioning apps that I had used in the past. I assume I'm not the only one. Let the app market decide what is "possible" - some apps might not conform, but their active user numbers might decrease due to customers switching to other apps with implemented dark modes.