Make sure to buy him some V-Bucks, for Tim’s sake.
Imagine being Epic and charging $20 to play as The Weekend and complaining about paying Apple 30%.
Make sure to buy him some V-Bucks, for Tim’s sake.
They have 126 million monthly users. I would hardly call that "dying".Registered users mean nothing. I was a registered user in 2019 and never played it again. That's just funny math to pump up a dying game. Kids moved on to Roblox, Minecraft etc. It's still a popular game, but Epic chose to do something to get themselves removed from billions of eyeballs and billions of possible revenue they'll never get back.
Mac has always had the ability to download outside software, iPhone has not.
They have 126 million monthly users. I would hardly call that "dying".
As for the money, oh there's no question they lost billions they would have made otherwise.
You are missing the point. Epic doesn’t want to sell on Apple’s store. They want to set up their own store and handle all the costs and downloads on their own. Apple won’t let them. Epic and others are not asking Apple to bear all the costs. They want to have their own stores and bear the costs themselves.Having access to billions of customers and only paying 30% is pretty damn good. How much does Apple get when a user downloads Fortnite and does not pay for any skins? $0. What about if all they get is VBUCKS redeems from Target? $0. I wish I could just stroll into Target, pop up a table and start selling stuff with no problems.
Mac and iPhone are two totally different experiences. One has always been 'open' and the other is built around being a 'locked' garden.So what? Your entire argument is for the sake of tradition? The point is that if it works on one system then it will work on another.
Oh absolutely it'd be bigger. I'm not disputing that at allImagine if Tim Sweeny had not been a total dick and tried to redirect purchased outside of Apple and create an entire video making fun of Apple how big those monthly users would still be?
Yes, Epic wants to make 100% of the money using Apples APIs, tools and billions of customers and not pay Apple a penny to do that. I also would like to sell stuff inside of Target but somehow I don't think they would allow me too. Why is that?You are missing the point. Epic doesn’t want to sell on Apple’s store. They want to set up their own store and handle all the costs and downloads on their own. Apple won’t let them. Epic and others are not asking Apple to bear all the costs. They want to have their own stores and bear the costs themselves.
You say it like it's a bad thing. The victories were insufficient, but Epic very much did this for all developers, not just themselves. As a private company, they have the full right to do whatever they want (within the constraints of the law, of course) whether it's the best business plan or not.There were minor victories for Epic along the way that some would say benefit developers, but even more so smaller developers.
Well awesome. Can you go ahead and make a phone, tablet and create an operating system that is front of billions of people? The answer is no, so you pay 30% for that opportunity to sell your app and in-store purchases. Is Target and wal-Mart a charity? Do they pay Nintendo $59.99 got a copy of Zelda and sell it for $59.99?
imagine if microsoft could just bar a developer from releasing programs on a widely used general computing device that almost everyone depends on to function in the modern world…
only apple can do that 😌
so many strange comments defending Apple and talking bad about Epic. I wonder, would you guys defend Apple if they did the same to Mac and completely lock it down? I would love to see that - I'd assume that most of you would change the tune immediately. How hypocritical
Yes, Epic wants to make 100% of the money using Apples APIs, tools and billions of customers and not pay Apple a penny to do that. I also would like to sell stuff inside of Target but somehow I don't think they would allow me too. Why is that?
I find it hard to believe that you don’t get this and that you aren’t just arguing about this because you are bored.Yes, Epic wants to make 100% of the money using Apples APIs, tools and billions of customers and not pay Apple a penny to do that. I also would like to sell stuff inside of Target but somehow I don't think they would allow me too. Why is that?
Mac has always had the ability to download outside software, iPhone has not.
If it was that small a part then Apple would just pull out of Europe altogetherIn a miniscule part of the world.
No, it is not. It is kicking the customer out of the restaurant when they don’t wear a shirt or behave badlyin case of Epic, they wanted to host elsewhere and have the option to pay elsewhere. Censorship Apple cut them and blocked their account. Thats monopoly behaviour. Thank god for EU
I really think you have no idea what you are talking about. If an sideloaded app on iOS could do any damage it would be completely Apple's fault. On a modern macOS you can't even install a kernel extension without reboot and reducing the security settings. And that would be the only way to brick something. But maybe iOS is so insecure that any app sideloaded can load any code with kernel priviledges and take over the OS. That would be funny. It would also bankrupt Apple, which wouldn't be funny.If that app does any damage, I don’t think Apple should be liable to fix it because it wasn’t approved by them.
Let's use the epic store as an example. Would epic allow me to just set up shop and sell whatever I liked in the epic store without me paying them anything? I don't think so. How about the playstation store or the xbox store?I find it hard to believe that you don’t get this and that you aren’t just arguing about this because you are bored.
You are right that Target won’t just let you sell stuff in their stores. But they also can’t keep you for renting the building next to their stores and selling stuff there. That is what Apple is doing. They don’t just dictate terms for selling in their store. They actively prevent others from setting up their own stores.
Seriously, do you not see and understand the difference?
No epic broke the developer contract they had with apple. apple gave them notice to change it and epic refused. apple had the right to kick them.in case of Epic, they wanted to host elsewhere and have the option to pay elsewhere. Censorship Apple cut them and blocked their account. Thats monopoly behaviour. Thank god for EU
No epic broke the developer contract they had with apple. apple gave them notice to change it and epic refused. apple had the right to kick them.
Because Epic was of the opinion that this developer contract was invalid, the courts disagreed. Case closed. Now, Epic wants to attempt to create their own store, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. Why do so many people get emotional about this?No epic broke the developer contract they had with apple. apple gave them notice to change it and epic refused. apple had the right to kick them.