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One thing to keep in mind about the version for China/HK/Marco with dual physical sim version. Yes, you can have to sim card from different carriers installed and be active without waiting for eSIM to be supported by carrier. HOWEVER, the versions for China market do not support Wi-Fi calling feature due to government regulation. Meaning anything like Skype will not work with the phone, so as the WiFi calling feature provided by US carrier. Other than that, phones are essentially the same.

Even if that is true, the bigger deal breaker is China iPhones do not support FaceTime audio. Hong Kong phones no such restriction.
 
Even if that is true, the bigger deal breaker is China iPhones do not support FaceTime audio. Hong Kong phones no such restriction.

I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure all this is managed by the region of your Apple ID account and carrier it’s activated on.
 
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure all this is managed by the region of your Apple ID account and carrier it’s activated on.
It's build into the hardware. Just like ones for Japan, the camera settler sound can not be eliminated regardless how you set with mute switch. Those are mandated by government and regulations in order for apple be able to sell the products in specific market. Same reason for two physical SIM slots instead of eSIM+physical SIM for China.
 
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I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure all this is managed by the region of your Apple ID account and carrier it’s activated on.

No. The software decides based on the part number.
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What I wanted to know was whether the A2104 (Hong Kong) had the capability of multiple eSIM, despite the fact that it was already dual physical SIM.
[doublepost=1542643468][/doublepost]From the answers in here, it looks like I'll be happier in the end waiting for T-Mobile's implementation of eSIM instead of getting the dual physical SIM A2104.

I can wait. :)

You know how it is, though. You don't really want to wait, and you might be willing to waste some money getting what you don't really need because...well...Apple stuff....

Only the iPhone XS has eSIM in HK. The Max and XR have physical Dual-SIM only. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT209044
 
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Hi!

Does anyone know if there are plans to add the option to activate/deactivate any of the sims from the shorcuts app? I have 2 routines related to getting to/out of my office, and it would be great to add the enablind and disabling of the second sim as part os those shortcuts...

Thanks in advance!
 
Hi!

Does anyone know if there are plans to add the option to activate/deactivate any of the sims from the shorcuts app? I have 2 routines related to getting to/out of my office, and it would be great to add the enablind and disabling of the second sim as part os those shortcuts...

Thanks in advance!
I see very little support in Shortcuts for Settings. There are only a few special actions that are settings related, and lots more that would be useful but aren’t there. So I’d say the chance is slim to see this anytime soon.
 
Another poor implementation Apple have made with dual sim...

I’m currently in Canada on a business trip. I’m from the UK.

Somebody who is not in my contacts called me on my personal line. I missed the call and wanted to call them back on my business line (so work pay the bill).

Impossible. You can only return the call on the line it was received on. Because the caller is not in my contacts I am unable to change the outgoing line.

Apple really have messed up this dial sim implementation.
 
Another poor implementation Apple have made with dual sim...

I’m currently in Canada on a business trip. I’m from the UK.

Somebody who is not in my contacts called me on my personal line. I missed the call and wanted to call them back on my business line (so work pay the bill).

Impossible. You can only return the call on the line it was received on. Because the caller is not in my contacts I am unable to change the outgoing line.

Apple really have messed up this dial sim implementation.
So, instead of "returning" the call that was missed, could you manually dial the that number on the work line as a work around? If that still won't work, just because a number has been "registered" on incoming line, that would be a major problem. But I agreed, regardless, user should have the option to returning a call with the selection of line regardless.
 
Another poor implementation Apple have made with dual sim...

I’m currently in Canada on a business trip. I’m from the UK.

Somebody who is not in my contacts called me on my personal line. I missed the call and wanted to call them back on my business line (so work pay the bill).

Impossible. You can only return the call on the line it was received on. Because the caller is not in my contacts I am unable to change the outgoing line.

Apple really have messed up this dial sim implementation.

Just copy and paste the number. You're really milking this :rolleyes:
 
I’m milking bugger all.

If you use this in a business environment (personal and business lines for serious use) it’s an absolute joke.

If you are using an esim just to have one you won’t notice the terrible implementation Apple has made of this.
[doublepost=1542915359][/doublepost]Just think what you are saying....

Somebody calls you and to call them back you have to copy the incoming number and paste it somewhere else to call them back.

For £1400 you think that is acceptable? Seriously!
 
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I’m milking bugger all.

If you use this in a business environment (personal and business lines for serious use) it’s an absolute joke.

If you are using an esim just to have one you won’t notice the terrible implementation Apple has made of this.
[doublepost=1542915359][/doublepost]Just think what you are saying....

Somebody calls you and to call them back you have to copy the incoming number and paste it somewhere else to call them back.

For £1400 you think that is acceptable? Seriously!

If someone calls me on one line that’s the line I would want to reply on...calling someone on a different number would just cause extra confusion.
 
Do you ever travel?

Do you ever travel to a country where data and calls are not included in your price plan?

Somebody calls me on my personal line. Do I call them back on that or do I call them on my business line and let my company pay the $4 a minute costs?

If you don’t travel a lot you’ll never appreciate the situation.
[doublepost=1542927199][/doublepost]What could be simpler then picking your contact to call or message and then selecting line 1 or 2?

It could and should be that simple!
 
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Do you ever travel?

Do you ever travel to a country where data and calls are not included in your price plan?

Somebody calls me on my personal line. Do I call them back on that or do I call them on my business line and let my company pay the $4 a minute costs?

If you don’t travel a lot you’ll never appreciate the situation.
[doublepost=1542927199][/doublepost]What could be simpler then picking your contact to call or message and then selecting line 1 or 2?

It could and should be that simple!

I do travel...I have 5 days free international travel a month with Verizon with my price plan and everything over is 10 bucks a day...my fiancée has AT&T and it’s just 10 dollars a day international....pretty negligible in the end
 
I’m away about 15 days a month. Based on your pricing I’d rather my company pays $150 a month than me pay it.

That said it’s kind of irrelevant. My point being, in my personal opinion Apple have really dropped the ball on the dual sim implementation. It’s clunky and workarounds are needed for the simplest of things.

A friend has a dual sim Android (no I don’t want to move) but he can select either line to make a calll or send a message. It’s child’s play.
 
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I’m away about 15 days a month. Based on your pricing I’d rather my company pays $150 a month than me pay it.

That said it’s kind of irrelevant. My point bein, in my personal opinion Apple have really dropped the ball on the dual sim implementation. It’s clunky and workarounds are needed for the simplest of things.

A friend has a dual sim Android (no I don’t want to move) but he can select either line to make a calll or send a message. It’s child’s play.

Why Apple didn’t pickup an android with dual sim or even read the android dual sim phone manual is beyond me. Let’s hope a lot of users post feedback to Apple about this and maybe just maybe they will fix it up.
 
Why Apple didn’t pickup an android with dual sim or even read the android dual sim phone manual is beyond me. Let’s hope a lot of users post feedback to Apple about this and maybe just maybe they will fix it up.

When I saw your post I went and looked at the Feedback application, and it seems to me they haven’t considered that people would be using it to report dual SIM or eSIM issues.

You aren’t given the choice of a subject line that is appropriate.
 
I’m milking bugger all.

If you use this in a business environment (personal and business lines for serious use) it’s an absolute joke.

If you are using an esim just to have one you won’t notice the terrible implementation Apple has made of this.
[doublepost=1542915359][/doublepost]Just think what you are saying....

We've been over this: I do use my phone for work and personal but personal line and business must never mix. Therefore in my case, and the case of many other people, the implementation is perfect.
There is no scenario in my case where I want to conduct government business from my personal line, or create a record such as an SMS for my personal line or call back someone who called my work number with my personal line.
I believe this is how the majority of people will use this feature, and Apple is about making features that work for most people, not necessarily all people.
 
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We've been over this: I do use my phone for work and personal but personal line and business must never mix. Therefore in my case, and the case of many other people, the implementation is perfect.
There is no scenario in my case where I want to conduct government business from my personal line, or create a record such as an SMS for my personal line or call back someone who called my work number with my personal line.
I believe this is how the majority of people will use this feature, and Apple is about making features that work for most people, not necessarily all people.


You really haven't got a clue how the rest of the world works my friend. I can assure you that outside of your little bubble this isn't how the majority of people want to use a dual sim phone.

Go & have a look at how an Android handles dual sim - that's how a dual sim should work - it's how Androids have worked for years.
 
You really haven't got a clue how the rest of the world works my friend. I can assure you that outside of your little bubble this isn't how the majority of people want to use a dual sim phone.

Go & have a look at how an Android handles dual sim - that's how a dual sim should work - it's how Androids have worked for years.

I was just going to post pretty much what you’ve said there, the arrogance of some posters that their specific usage is the only use is quite astounding. Having the current system as the default but just including a line 1/ line 2 toggle on the dial and messages screen wouldn’t hurt anyone and would make the way people outside of North America use their phones possible as well.
 
We've been over this: I do use my phone for work and personal but personal line and business must never mix. Therefore in my case, and the case of many other people, the implementation is perfect.

That's what I think, too. In the future, we might find that iOS has been tweaked to streamline the features for the minority of users who are asking for changes, but I do not believe that the software the way it is set up right now is flawed.
 
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