You need a chip that can run 2x as fast, and you'll need a bigger battery to drive the better chip, and probably most importantly, you'll need to keep the backlight on 2x as often, at 1/2 brightness, but since battery usage per lumen doesn't scale linearly like that you'll need a bigger battery to support the screen. And Apple used a small battery to save on costs, so even if they could do something in software, they wouldn't be able to without cutting into battery life in a major way.
That doesnt sound good... Anyways I'd happily trade an hour or two of screen on time to be able to use OLED screens.
Yes, it took me almost 4 days to develop a headache, I had no eye strain or anything until then. And, sadly, almost 5 days for the headache to be gone. It's not my eyes that worry me. It's actually my brain. It's almost like the flickering ties it into knots that need unraveling. Mind you, I am that person who gets migraines from flickering light.
Undoubtedly there must be something wrong going on, feeling strain or not.
This definitely seems to be the concern as I look at this situation- most do not have any symptoms, but is it still bad for them in some way to be staring at a little strobe light all the time? Not sure what that does long term to the eyes, the optic nerves, the brain, etc. Maybe nothing, who knows.
I am probably in the minority here, but I think Apple LCD displays are great, and I do not see much difference between the OLED display on my 12 Mini and the LCD on my 11.
PWM aside, I still prefer LCD to OLED on a phone as well. The ghosting while scrolling + blue shift get annoying and I only really prefer OLED on a TV for movies anyway.
Agree. I think this generation LCD looks more natural then OLED, in phones that is. TV is another story, those OLED screens are by far better than anything else.
Hello guys, I’m writing here because I don’t know what’s going on and everyone next to me thinks I’m crazy.
As you know, I’ve already purchased and returned a 12, a 12 mini, and yesterday I decided to assume the cons about an 11 and give it a try.
I went to Apple, got a case and belkin crystal and even a car support. I wasn’t super “happy” because size but just OK, bigger battery and cool cameras are a nice pros anyways and PWD would leave my life.
Well.
I arrived home, started migrating data and had to do a couple of times because I interrupted the process and so on, so I had to configure Face ID a couple of times.
Could you believe that it felt definitely wrong? I thought: “ok, you are conditioned by past experiences so give it another try”, so I disabled Face ID and went on setting it up again. And again I felt something wrong, like a “warm” feeling in my eyes.
Screen doesn’t mess like OLED did when watching something or browsing/scrolling, but there’s something going on that doesn’t happen with my OGSE (from the one I’m writing now)
I’ve arrived to the point where I unlock the 11 with closed eyes due to paranoia, but the mild strain is present for sure, and it doesn’t happen when using OGSE.
I don’t know what’s going on. I’ve lurked this forum and looks like IR shouldn’t mess with your eyes, and maybe it’s just the bigger screen/ brightness and I just need a few days to adapt. I’m not returning it and I’m willing to experiment a bit, but do you guys think that Face ID may be messing around with my eyes? I’m starting to be a bit tired about this mobile buying returning stuff
ps: I’ve disabled Face ID attention stuff and all that stuff like reduce white point etc
There is an obvious, demonstrable, technical reason that people would have trouble with OLED displays using PWM.
I’ve written a lot about it before, but I’ve extensively tested a lot of Apple devices (XR/11/iPad Air 3/4/iPad Pro 2018/2020/iPad 6th/7th Gen/iPad 8th Gen), and the conclusion I’ve come to is that Apple changed something alongside the A12 chip IMO. I don’t know whether it’s a general graphics thing, or how they render text, or something with anti-aliasing, dithering, etc, but there‘s definitely something there (At least for me, seems like some people are okay with some of those devices and not others). One of the main reasons for the A12 theory is that (apparently) the iPad 7 and 8 are the *exact* same except for the A10 vs A12 chip, but the former is fine for me while the latter causes the same eye strain as the XR/11, etc.
Personally I don't believe IR can do anything like that.Hello guys, I’m writing here because I don’t know what’s going on and everyone next to me thinks I’m crazy.
As you know, I’ve already purchased and returned a 12, a 12 mini, and yesterday I decided to assume the cons about an 11 and give it a try.
I went to Apple, got a case and belkin crystal and even a car support. I wasn’t super “happy” because size but just OK, bigger battery and cool cameras are a nice pros anyways and PWD would leave my life.
Well.
I arrived home, started migrating data and had to do a couple of times because I interrupted the process and so on, so I had to configure Face ID a couple of times.
Could you believe that it felt definitely wrong? I thought: “ok, you are conditioned by past experiences so give it another try”, so I disabled Face ID and went on setting it up again. And again I felt something wrong, like a “warm” feeling in my eyes.
Screen doesn’t mess like OLED did when watching something or browsing/scrolling, but there’s something going on that doesn’t happen with my OGSE (from the one I’m writing now)
I’ve arrived to the point where I unlock the 11 with closed eyes due to paranoia, but the mild strain is present for sure, and it doesn’t happen when using OGSE.
I don’t know what’s going on. I’ve lurked this forum and looks like IR shouldn’t mess with your eyes, and maybe it’s just the bigger screen/ brightness and I just need a few days to adapt. I’m not returning it and I’m willing to experiment a bit, but do you guys think that Face ID may be messing around with my eyes? I’m starting to be a bit tired about this mobile buying returning stuff
ps: I’ve disabled Face ID attention stuff and all that stuff like reduce white point etc
Give it a day or two. After I stopped using my 12 mini, I still had headaches that would come and go for 2 or 3 days, couldn't focus, and was getting nauseous. I called it the "Is it covid, or just an iPhone 12 mini" gameHello guys, I’m writing here because I don’t know what’s going on and everyone next to me thinks I’m crazy.
As you know, I’ve already purchased and returned a 12, a 12 mini, and yesterday I decided to assume the cons about an 11 and give it a try.
I went to Apple, got a case and belkin crystal and even a car support. I wasn’t super “happy” because size but just OK, bigger battery and cool cameras are a nice pros anyways and PWD would leave my life.
Well.
I arrived home, started migrating data and had to do a couple of times because I interrupted the process and so on, so I had to configure Face ID a couple of times.
Could you believe that it felt definitely wrong? I thought: “ok, you are conditioned by past experiences so give it another try”, so I disabled Face ID and went on setting it up again. And again I felt something wrong, like a “warm” feeling in my eyes.
Screen doesn’t mess like OLED did when watching something or browsing/scrolling, but there’s something going on that doesn’t happen with my OGSE (from the one I’m writing now)
I’ve arrived to the point where I unlock the 11 with closed eyes due to paranoia, but the mild strain is present for sure, and it doesn’t happen when using OGSE.
I don’t know what’s going on. I’ve lurked this forum and looks like IR shouldn’t mess with your eyes, and maybe it’s just the bigger screen/ brightness and I just need a few days to adapt. I’m not returning it and I’m willing to experiment a bit, but do you guys think that Face ID may be messing around with my eyes? I’m starting to be a bit tired about this mobile buying returning stuff
ps: I’ve disabled Face ID attention stuff and all that stuff like reduce white point etc
Give it a day or two. After I stopped using my 12 mini, I still had headaches that would come and go for 2 or 3 days, couldn't focus, and was getting nauseous. I called it the "Is it covid, or just an iPhone 12 mini" game
Going to stick it out, huh?
Original SE. I was previously using an X, and have an eye issue that, looking back, started around the same time I got the X. I decided not to chance it, and picked up a refurbished original SE for $85. My wife has an 11, but I find it too large.
Were you thinking the eye issue was caused by the flicker from the X, or did you just mean that the timing was coincidental?
