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MICHAELSD said:
Have you seen me in this thread before? :eek:

If it flickers per usual, I'll post extensively about how immensely I enjoy it for a few weeks despite the persistent headaches then reluctantly have to pry it out of my own hands to return it.
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Did you end up ordering one?
 
Man. I broke down and pre-ordered the pro max arriving next Friday.

I was torn on size to the point I was ready to bow out. But then my wife reminded me I’m returning it regardless because if it works, I’ll return it to Apple and trade my 11 in for $800 at Verizon.

No way was I going to do a trade in without trying it out first (I have a 256gb and they were discontinued last year) so figured I may as well try the size I was most on the fence about.
 
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ARizz44 said:
Man. I broke down and pre-ordered the pro max arriving next Friday.

I was torn on size to the point I was ready to bow out. But then my wife reminded me I’m returning it regardless because if it works, I’ll return it to Apple and trade my 11 in for $800 at Verizon.

No way was I going to do a trade in without trying it out first (I have a 256gb and they were discontinued last year) so figured I may as well try the size I was most on the fence about.
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How’s this $800 Verizon deal work?
 
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How’s this $800 Verizon deal work?
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If you are on one of their newer unlimited plans, they’ll give you a certain amount on trade depending on the device. My 11 qualifies for $800. More details are on their website. You do not need to open a new line for this.
 
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iCantSee said:
I’m surprised the 11 qualifies for $800. That’s pretty good. OLED sufferer special?
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Ya I just kinda flicked through some stuff online pretty quick and entered my iPhone 11 (128gb) and it said up to $800. Then I tried my brother in law’s iPhone 13PM (512gb) and it was only like $539…
 
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Howyalikdemapls said:
Ya I just kinda flicked through some stuff online pretty quick and entered my iPhone 11 (128gb) and it said up to $800. Then I tried my brother in law’s iPhone 13PM (512gb) and it was only like $539…
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Well that's really strange: why do you think you get so much for an 11 than 13PM???
 
MICHAELSD said:
One is a carrier promotion and the other is Apple’s standard trade-in value.
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That makes sense, thank you.

(Still not giving up my 11. Excited to try the 14PM, but I'm not letting go of the 11 since they don't sell the new at Apple anymore. I still kinda wish I had kept my white 8+ just to use around the house on wifi or something.)


...a few minutes later

(Just to torture myself I checked Apple's refurbished page for phones. There's the 11, 256 gb in white -- more storage and slightly less than I paid. Argh. But you know, I knew it would show up. Deep breaths. We make choices. Had two weeks of relief knowing I had a brand new 11 to rely on during the 14 adventure.)
 
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I switched from AT&T to T Mobile and they gave me $800 for the Note 10+ and $200 more for keeping my number when I bought the Pro Max.
 
I know this thread is old now but I have not noticed a negative difference with the newer phone models(X and up) with the OLED displays. As someone that has had glasses for more than a decade, I can safely say that usually when someone has a hard time reading small font on a display when you could prior, it is time to see an optician to check your eyes out.

Of course, everyone's eyes are different, it could be that the more vibrant colors are throwing you off but I would still make an eye appointment to check them out. Once you get glasses, the prescription changes all the time.
 
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Samdh90 said:
I know this thread is old now but I have not noticed a negative difference with the newer phone models(X and up) with the OLED displays. As someone that has had glasses for more than a decade, I can safely say that usually when someone has a hard time reading small font on a display when you could prior, it is time to see an optician to check your eyes out.

Of course, everyone's eyes are different, it could be that the more vibrant colors are throwing you off but I would still make an eye appointment to check them out. Once you get glasses, the prescription changes all the time.
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This issue has nothing to do with someone's "bad eyes". Some of us are just more sensitive to the flickering than others. I have perfect vision, but get tremendous headaches with any of the Apple OLED phones.
 
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Samdh90 said:
I know this thread is old now but I have not noticed a negative difference with the newer phone models(X and up) with the OLED displays. As someone that has had glasses for more than a decade, I can safely say that usually when someone has a hard time reading small font on a display when you could prior, it is time to see an optician to check your eyes out.

Of course, everyone's eyes are different, it could be that the more vibrant colors are throwing you off but I would still make an eye appointment to check them out. Once you get glasses, the prescription changes all the time.
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The issue is with the technology they are using -- it's not our eyes.
 
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I am curious how many in this topic have undergo lasik or PRK procedure like i had in the past…. I wonder if it has anything to do with our PWM intolerance.
 
I cannot use OLED iPhones after iPhone X. I have tried the 11 pro, 12 and 13. Symptoms are the same: nausea, headache, migraine. I recently discovered that I have very slight astigmatism and received prescription glasses for it. I could not adjust to the new glasses - same symptom as the OLED screens. I believe that these screens are causing motion sickness for those who are sensitive to it.

Let's hope the display on the iPhone 14 is an improvement. I have also seen the option to replace the OLED screen on the 12 pro with an InCell LCD screen which uses a backlight instead of PWM.

www.ifixit.com

iPhone 12/12 Pro Screen: LCD + Digitizer Replacement Part, Kit

Replace a scratched or cracked front panel glass digitizer screen or a malfunctioning OLED display.
www.ifixit.com www.ifixit.com

Has anyone tried this? That's going to be my next option if the 14 pro does not work out.
 
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DJTaurus said:
I am curious how many in this topic have undergo lasik or PRK procedure like i had in the past…. I wonder if it has anything to do with our PWM intolerance.
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I’ve wondered that too. I had lasik. I also had some weird eye issue before that though but once I had lasik the size of my pupils became a big issue. Perhaps my pupils being so big makes them more prone to PWM issues?

I use alfagan to shrink my pupils smaller than my lasik scars so I can drive at night and reduce starbursts… maybe using alfagan during the day would reduce headaches from PWM? Unfortunately alfagan doesn’t last very long.
 
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DJTaurus said:
I am curious how many in this topic have undergo lasik or PRK procedure like i had in the past…. I wonder if it has anything to do with our PWM intolerance.
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No. But I did have cataract surgery for both eyes in June. Lenses were replaced with distance corrected lenses and I’m now 20/20 distance but need glasses for arms length acuity. I think this is a brain thing….I’ll know shortly.
 
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jrajpaul said:
I cannot use OLED iPhones after iPhone X. I have tried the 11 pro, 12 and 13. Symptoms are the same: nausea, headache, migraine. I recently discovered that I have very slight astigmatism and received prescription glasses for it. I could not adjust to the new glasses - same symptom as the OLED screens. I believe that these screens are causing motion sickness for those who are sensitive to it.

Let's hope the display on the iPhone 14 is an improvement. I have also seen the option to replace the OLED screen on the 12 pro with an InCell LCD screen which uses a backlight instead of PWM.

www.ifixit.com

iPhone 12/12 Pro Screen: LCD + Digitizer Replacement Part, Kit

Replace a scratched or cracked front panel glass digitizer screen or a malfunctioning OLED display.
www.ifixit.com www.ifixit.com

Has anyone tried this? That's going to be my next option if the 14 pro does not work out.
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I haven't but would be interested in seeing results from anyone that has. I've often wondered if there's someway to buy a new phone and change the display to LCD. This looks like it is!!!
 
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jrajpaul said:
I cannot use OLED iPhones after iPhone X. I have tried the 11 pro, 12 and 13. Symptoms are the same: nausea, headache, migraine. I recently discovered that I have very slight astigmatism and received prescription glasses for it. I could not adjust to the new glasses - same symptom as the OLED screens. I believe that these screens are causing motion sickness for those who are sensitive to it.

Let's hope the display on the iPhone 14 is an improvement. I have also seen the option to replace the OLED screen on the 12 pro with an InCell LCD screen which uses a backlight instead of PWM.

www.ifixit.com

iPhone 12/12 Pro Screen: LCD + Digitizer Replacement Part, Kit

Replace a scratched or cracked front panel glass digitizer screen or a malfunctioning OLED display.
www.ifixit.com www.ifixit.com

Has anyone tried this? That's going to be my next option if the 14 pro does not work out.
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I was looking at these for the 12 Mini. Might have to reach out to the site and ask if they have specs or at least manufacturer information.
 
jrajpaul said:
I cannot use OLED iPhones after iPhone X. I have tried the 11 pro, 12 and 13. Symptoms are the same: nausea, headache, migraine. I recently discovered that I have very slight astigmatism and received prescription glasses for it. I could not adjust to the new glasses - same symptom as the OLED screens. I believe that these screens are causing motion sickness for those who are sensitive to it.

Let's hope the display on the iPhone 14 is an improvement. I have also seen the option to replace the OLED screen on the 12 pro with an InCell LCD screen which uses a backlight instead of PWM.

www.ifixit.com

iPhone 12/12 Pro Screen: LCD + Digitizer Replacement Part, Kit

Replace a scratched or cracked front panel glass digitizer screen or a malfunctioning OLED display.
www.ifixit.com www.ifixit.com

Has anyone tried this? That's going to be my next option if the 14 pro does not work out.
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I would love to try this. Yes, please share if switching out for an LCD screen has worked!
 
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