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Abiyork

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Because of the supposedly more battery needs of those LCD replacement screens.

Fingers crossed for you. I'll certainly be doing the same if you have success and have a month without phone/eye/head issue.

Are you ok using IOS17 on Iphone 11?
 

Abiyork

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Has anyone that had issues with IOS17 on iPhone 11 found the issue went away with the smaller version updates? 17.1 17.2 etc?

I want a new apple watch but out of the box they will be IOS10 which wont work with IOS16.
 

DJTaurus

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Fingers crossed for you. I'll certainly be doing the same if you have success and have a month without phone/eye/head issue.

Are you ok using IOS17 on Iphone 11?
Not 100 eye comfort as in the past. I loose focus easily if i have huge screen usage. But still usable.
 
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MICHAELSD

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Any miracle that iOS 18 beta included some eye comfort settings in accessibility?
I used to hold out hope for every beta. Realistically it seems like this will only be fixed at the hardware level.

iPhone 16 Pro seems like it’s going to be even more advanced than anticipated, so we can hope that they have an ultra-low-modulation flicker rate for the display. Come on, display engineers, this is the iPhone’s Achilles’ heel currently.

Another note: iOS 18 looked flawless in the WWDC presentation on a Pioneer KURO plasma, with no headaches. It’s weird looking at modern iOS as it’s supposed to be presented while not staring at an awful smartphone OLED.
 

ocean10

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Has anyone that had issues with IOS17 on iPhone 11 found the issue went away with the smaller version updates? 17.1 17.2 etc?

I want a new apple watch but out of the box they will be IOS10 which wont work with IOS16.
I’ve tried a 9th Gen iPad on a few of the iOS 17 versions and none that I tried made it usable. I seem to recall either here or on Reddit or Ledstrain.org that someone mentioned one of the smaller version updates worked at one point but then later versions made it not work again. I’m holding out a very slight hope that maybe something in iOS 18 will make some of the previously “good” devices usable again.
 
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now i see it

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There’s a lot of grumbling in the Mac forums about screen flickering caused by GPU dithering in the M SOCs. Eyestrain. They’re using LCD screens not OLED.

On the Mac- there apparently is a program that can disable the GPU dithering which gets rid of eyestrain for the affected users. The colors aren’t quite as smooth- but the trade off is worth it.

We can only hope something like that could be made available for iOS one day. Hell, all it would take is a toggle switch in settings….
 
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Heman87

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There’s a lot of grumbling in the Mac forums about screen flickering caused by GPU dithering in the M SOCs. Eyestrain. They’re using LCD screens not OLED.

On the Mac- there apparently is a program that can disable the GPU dithering which gets rid of eyestrain for the affected users. The colors aren’t quite as smooth- but the trade off is worth it.

We can only hope something like that could be made available for iOS one day. Hell, all it would take is a toggle switch in settings….
Does the iPhones also have temporal dithering?
 
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MICHAELSD

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My screen is on the way. I believe by Friday i ll have it installed.
This will be unprecedented, as it seems like no one online has done an overview, review, or even comparison of the aftermarket LCD’s.

The subset of users that would consider this for PWM-related reasons is probably diminutive.
 
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DJTaurus

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This will be unprecedented, as it seems like no one online has done an overview, review, or even comparison of the aftermarket LCD’s.

The subset of users that would consider this for PWM-related reasons is probably diminutive.
Yeah. I ll upload a video side by side with my iPhone 11.
 
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DJTaurus

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Santa came earlier. I already left it for surgery and i am gonna pick it up in 2 hours from now. Fingers crossed.
 

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DJTaurus

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I’m curious if the higher resolution will make up for any discrepancies in color reproduction. Or maybe it will just be exemplary regardless. 🤞
To be honest as i said I don’t care about any color (tint,uniformity, viewing angles distortion) issues if occurred. I only want the same text clarity like my iPhone 11 and obviously to have the same touch responsiveness. And i am curious how the brightness would be outdoors.
 

MICHAELSD

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Here is the comparison video. That’s the best I can do with my wife’s 12 pro. I will upload my impressions when possible:

It looks good! Better than expected based on what I’ve read online. Really the colors look almost identical on camera, and the resolution does look sharper.

Thanks for being the only person to do this. I may resort to this eventually on an iPhone 16 or 17, depending what our options are like.
 

esaelias187

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Here is the comparison video. That’s the best I can do with my wife’s 12 pro. I will upload my impressions when possible:

looks really good

if you lower the brightness can you see them lines in slow mo

this looks so promising if this works ill get an iPhone tomorrow and the same screen

in reality I don't see why it would not work and alleviate eye strain

sometimes placebo can kick in and make you think oh no still got eye strain

please let us know how you feel
 
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esaelias187

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Here is the comparison video. That’s the best I can do with my wife’s 12 pro. I will upload my impressions when possible:

also would you know if they do the same screen in iPhone 14? as I already got the iPhone I'm not sure what you mean by affect battery I mean I dnt really mind it but depends
 
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kerplunknet

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Everything went well guys. I will upload a video and impressions in 2 hours from now. It’s like using an 8 plus…..a very positive start :D
You are a legend.

Before we all go and buy these screens, I have a few questions if you wouldn't mind answering:
  1. Can you measure any PWM with this screen at any brightness level? (Using slow-mo, OPPLE, RADEX Lupon, Pulsar Illumination app, or any other way you have of measuring?)
  2. What features don't work? Face ID, for example.
  3. Why did you choose the JK screen instead of EK Pro, ZY, or the other panel options? I read that EK Pro was the best, but I'm curious about your take.
  4. Any reason we should be aware of why we couldn't get any other size (14 or 14 Pro, for example) besides the 14 Plus?
  5. IC Transfer/Transplant + TrueTone: This looks like it requires some work. You have to solder the IC chip and also program something to make sure TrueTone works. Did your installer do this? If you don't, you'll receive a "non-genuine" message on the screen.
  6. Any reason you didn't go with the 15 generation?
  7. For buying, Ali Express has all of these displays (including 15, I believe). Any reason to use the same seller you used?
  8. Anything special you had to tell the display swapper/installer?
GREATLY appreciated. I'd be happy to donate a little bit to you for all of your hard work on this as well.

--

I am talking with Elekworld regarding iPhone 15 displays. I will let you all know how that turns out.
 
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The.Glorious.Son

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Hey all. Boy this post will likely get buried with all of the excitement around the lcd screen install lol. That’s incredibly exciting and I’ll be following along.

I would like opinions even through I understand I ultimately have to decide on my own with this. I’ve been here since day 1 of the thread and have been using the 11 for close to 4 years. The 15 PM was by far the most tolerable model (for me) but after about 3.5 weeks during the extended window I returned it. Well, around the second week of March I picked up another, again, because I was hitting a string of concerts and wanted the cameras. To my surprise here we are 3 months later and I have zero symptoms. I’m quite surprised and grateful to be on a newer phone but here’s the dilemma.

It runs hot on the car charger, runs hot outdoors even when not sitting in sunlight. The screen dims much more than my wife’s 13 mini. I’ve done every troubleshoot and diagnostic I can. There’ve been some other glitches too with occasional screen freezing. What do I do? lol. Any lcd phone and I’m heading to the Genius Bar but I might be using a unicorn here. I may have won the screen lottery that some believe in. They could replace my phone and it end up bothering me 😵‍💫 really struggling with this.
 
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MICHAELSD

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Hey all. Boy this post will likely get buried with all of the excitement around the lcd screen install lol. That’s incredibly exciting and I’ll be following along.

I would like opinions even through I understand I ultimately have to decide on my own with this. I’ve been here since day 1 of the thread and have been using the 11 for close to 4 years. The 15 PM was by far the most tolerable model (for me) but after about 3.5 weeks during the extended window I returned it. Well, around the second week of March I picked up another, again, because I was hitting a string of concerts and wanted the cameras. To my surprise here we are 3 months later and I have zero symptoms. I’m quite surprised and grateful to be on a newer phone but here’s the dilemma.

It runs hot on the car charger, runs hot outdoors even when not sitting in sunlight. The screen dims much more than my wife’s 13 mini. I’ve done every troubleshoot and diagnostic I can. There’ve been some other glitches too with occasional screen freezing. What do I do? lol. Any lcd phone and I’m heading to the Genius Bar but I might be using a unicorn here. I may have won the screen lottery that some believe in. They could replace my phone and it end up bothering me 😵‍💫 really struggling with this.
Personally I would keep it, but that’s because there could be variance in colors too. There is a chance the issues you’re experiencing may not be due to the display.
 
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The.Glorious.Son

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Personally I would keep it, but that’s because there could be variance in colors too. There is a chance the issues you’re experiencing may not be due to the display.
You know what though you have me thinking now. It might be reasonable to take it in and have them run diagnostics. Perhaps it could be a fixable issue that doesn’t involve the screen nor require a replacement?
 
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