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Other Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up

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jimmy_uk said:
Is there not a risk of negative effect build-up? Examples:- I could use an iPhone 13 for nearly a week before my eye muscles strained so much that I had headaches. The iPhone 16 Pro Max was symptom-free for 2 days and nights until the third day when my eyes felt punched and I had a skull-splitting migraine! If your eyes and brain start to hurt, it"s your body telling you to stop.


I can't help but feel that screen protectors are just snake oil.......
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I don't think anyone has a definite answer. In my experience if a device gives me a migraine in 15 to 30 minutes there is no way to use it for long periods. I once tried using a gaming PC that gave me migraine problems two days in a row during covid lockdown and I was with migraine for 2 weeks and couldn't use any device anymore.

The company notebook was causing me headaches after a couple of hours but I noticed that with a 30/60 minute break the headache would go away. So I insisted and managed to adapt and now I can work 8 hours with a slight headache after several hours but that goes away with breaks.

Back to the topic, we are talking about phones so if using it 30/40 minutes in a row doesn't cause problems, I would keep the phone and try to reduce the hours of use. :)
 
Another thing to mention specially felt on Galaxy. Why the f those OLEDs have colors glowing and popping like Christmas lights. I hate that. I tried natural too but it was still soooo punchy for my taste.
 
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I just used an Oneplus 12. I can’t say about eye comfort. I still don’t like android and i will not keep using it. But let me tell you this: screen is more natural and more crystal clear than s24…… love it :)
 
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DJTaurus said:
I just used a Oneplus 12. I can’t say about eye comfort. I still don’t like android and i will not keep using it. But let me tell you this: screen is more natural and more crystal clear than s24…… love it :)
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I don’t like Samsung devices either. And I rather keep using iOS. But android manufacturers from china are trying to fix this issue. Did you notice any improvement from the OP regarding PWM?
 
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I don’t like Samsung devices either. And I rather keep using iOS. But android manufacturers from china are trying to fix this issue. Did you notice any improvement from the OP regarding PWM?
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Oneplus was also more smooth on scrolling and more natural on touch. S24 was super fast on reactions…. in a way my finger couldn’t follow….. still 3rd party apps on Oneplus not good looking….. like web pages!

I didn’t use it for long to judge. But screen colors and text clarity was perfect unlike over saturated and over glowing S24. Also a lot more pleasant to hold while S24 is like a mini tablet.
 
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Oneplus was also more smooth on scrolling and more natural on touch. S24 was super fast on reactions…. in a way my finger couldn’t follow….. still 3rd party apps on Oneplus not good looking….. like web pages!

I didn’t use it for long to judge. But screen colors and text clarity was perfect unlike over saturated and over glowing S24. Also a lot more pleasant to hold while S24 is like a mini tablet.
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So, are you done with the S24U trial? I have always felt the Samsung OS is a little too Fisher Price in design compared with iOS, but you could heavily modify it to your taste. Are you bailing early because you don't like Android VS iOS - or because you cannot comfortably use the phone?

Speaking for myself, I reeeeeeally don't want to switch to Android. I've been with the iPhone since launch, and despite its weird ways with settings and locked down approach, I appreciate the perceived security, Face ID, iCloud, smoothness, being able to visit stores for repairs, etc. But Apple isn't changing for our benefit, in fact, they are moving further away from any chance of solutions for us sensitive folk - so I/we cannot stay.
 
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jimmy_uk said:
So, are you done with the S24U trial? I have always felt the Samsung OS is a little too Fisher Price in design compared with iOS, but you could heavily modify it to your taste. Are you bailing early because you don't like Android VS iOS - or because you cannot comfortably use the phone?

Speaking for myself, I reeeeeeally don't want to switch to Android. I've been with the iPhone since launch, and despite its weird ways with settings and locked down approach, I appreciate the perceived security, Face ID, iCloud, smoothness, being able to visit stores for repairs, etc. But Apple isn't changing for our benefit, in fact, they are moving further away from any chance of solutions for us sensitive folk - so I/we cannot stay.
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Yeah I already got discomfort from day one. Blurry vision and few head irritations here and there. I will try a 16 plus somewhere down the road. Now i ordered watch series 10 because my 7 is out of battery…..
 
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Any success stories out there with this year’s generation of iPhones? I’m currently on a 16 Pro; I have mild but persistent symptoms (namely, mild eye strain, but no nausea, headaches, or dizziness like other generations). This is definitely the best pro model experience I’ve ever had, though it is not perfect. I’m torn on whether I can get used to this or whether it’s not worth it. I’m also tempted to try the regular 16 — can anyone confirm 2+ weeks of regular, symptom-free use on the regular 16?
 
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cenkanyil said:
Hi everybody,
It has been a while, but I have great news, at least for me.

The S24 series works for me!

I was very hesitant about buying the S24 at first, but my iPhone 11 was dying, and I needed a new phone. I thought about the SE, but come on, I can manage a device with huge bezels. However, the battery life was more of a problem for me. So, I went to the store (just like an Apple Store, but for all media devices, called MediaMarkt). I tested all the devices, and for some reason, I felt like I should just pull the trigger on the S24, so I did. I was very nervous, of course. The first two days, my eyes had to adjust. I think it was because of the switch from LCD to OLED, and the 120Hz display needed some time.

But to get straight to the point: No pain? No dizziness? Nothing? I was genuinely shocked that it just worked for me. I tried it for almost a month, and yeah, I had no symptoms like I previously had with the S23 series or any iPhone series. Before the return window closed, I swapped the regular S24 for the Ultra (because of the Exynos chip in the regular one). The S24 Ultra comes with Snapdragon in my region (Western Europe).

The S24 Ultra, like the regular S24, has been very pleasant on my eyes. Perhaps it's the technology that changed? I don’t know, but I remember the S23 series giving me horrible headaches, and any iPhones as well are unusable for me. I jokingly tried the newest iPhone 16 models, and yeah, headache immediately again.

By the way, I’ve had the S24 since June, and then, before the month ended, I returned it for the Ultra. I’m very happy that I can use this device now for the foreseeable future (7 years of OS support has me covered for a while!).

That’s all, guys. Thanks for reading and goodbye for now. I hope you all find your perfect device one day.
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That was always the case. Apple buys displays from samsung, and samsung drives the oled technology.

I don’t know if it is money apple being greedy or samsung blocking the sale, but samsung phones were always ahead of the iphones for oled display technology especially pwm.

16 pro has 240hz pwm oled while your s24 has 483hz. So 2x less pwm flickering.

PS. I think what is happening is that OLED again gives manufacturers cost cutting technology to make more pleasant picture. PWM simply means that the screen flickers by turning on and off for a brief milliseconds.

PWM stands for Pulse Width Modulation. It is a technique used in phone displays to control brightness. It involves rapidly turning the screen's pixels on and off at a specific frequency, creating the illusion of different brightness levels.
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What we see is not always what we "see". Eyeballs definitely feel the blow of flickering display while brain cuts off the noise - similarly each of your eye can see your nose but when both pictures combines and processed by the brain, the nose is not in our central view anymore.

So brain cuts of the flicker but the eyes as a tool take the beating and see it. Overall i think PWM is not healthy in any way, but people will still consume it. I call it health tolerance to be able to forego the negative effects in the short period.

Example 1: Drinking alcohol doesn't help the body stay healthier and productive. Yet, some people drink a ton and have no consequences.
Example 2: Boxing. People like Ali had consequences of the blows to the head and felt it at later years. Average Joe would have died from brain bleeding long before examples like Ali with sheer health.
Example 3: You would think that 30K new Toyota Camry would have better seating that would not break one's back especially while priced 10x times higher than used cars. But not! My $2000 and $11000 old and used cars have more comfortable front seat. Solution? Get the convenience package for $1500 and you will finally get a lumbar support with better anatomy in your seat.
Example 4: There is no justification for CFA chicken sandwich having 2000mg of sodium (2grams of it or almost a teaspoon of salt) in 1 sandwich. One could make the same sandwich at home using the fraction of salt.

In a greedy capitalist world not every thing that is being sold really cares about human's health since there are too many humans in their opinion.
 
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ctjack said:
I don’t know if it is money apple being greedy or samsung blocking the sale, but samsung phones were always ahead of the iphones for oled display technology especially pwm.

16 pro has 240hz pwm oled while your s24 has 483hz. So 2x less pwm flickering.
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I wouldn't exactly call 480Hz a groundbreaking improvement over the previous models.
 
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I wanted to share a quick update. I tried using the base model iPhone 16 and I had eye strain within minutes. Now I’m going to try the iPhone 16 Pro. Hopefully it works. If not then I’ll just get an iPad and wait until next year. Good luck everyone.
 
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atmacdotcom said:
I wanted to share a quick update. I tried using the base model iPhone 16 and I had eye strain within minutes. Now I’m going to try the iPhone 16 Pro. Hopefully it works. If not then I’ll just get an iPad and wait until next year. Good luck everyone.
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Let us know how you get on. 🤞
 
16 Plus was of the best experiences i had with OLED iphones. Symptoms are mild (light blurriness mostly) but still not perfect. It still affects me. If i get bored i may try an 16 pro down the road...... at least i upgraded to watch 10 and airpods 4 :p

Apple must have changed sth to this years chips/modems. Easily best reception, 5G and wifi connectivity / range i ever had with an iphone.... too bad i am stuck with 11.....dynamic island also is such a delight....definitely not a gimmick!
 
I exchanged my iPhone 11 for the iPhone 16 non-Pro. The first few days I had eye strain, but then it disappeared. The screen is thicker than the iPhone 14, which I also own and find unbearable. So, this is great news—try the iPhone 16 non-Pro and give it some time to get used to. I have the 256GB midnight black version. I also started taking eye vitamins and feel much stronger and have a better tolerance to any screen I am using.
 
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I exchanged my iPhone 11 for the iPhone 16 non-Pro. The first few days I had eye strain, but then it disappeared. The screen is thicker than the iPhone 14, which I also own and find unbearable. So, this is great news—try the iPhone 16 non-Pro and give it some time to get used to. I have the 256GB midnight black version. I also started taking eye vitamins and feel much stronger and have a better tolerance to any screen I am using.
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Can you share the brand vitamins ?
 
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Can you share the brand vitamins ?
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Not op, but my ophthalmologist prescribed me bi-annual application of irifrine 2.5% (1 drop before sleep) and taurine 4% (2-3 times daytime 2 drops per eye) for 28 days every 6 month.

Helps to nullify the computer eyes syndrome to get back to eyes factory settings.


TLDR

All patients with computer visual syndrome accompanied by low and mild myopia demonstrated a decrease in the frequency and severity of asthenopia manifestations, increased uncorrected visual acuity, the absolute accommodation volume, as well as positive and negative parts of volume relative accommodation volume.
 
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