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ANSWER THE $%&()*(& QUESTION ABOUT INVENTORY NUMBERS! Just say if its necessary to wait in line. Honestly...

Dude, chill out. You are way too uptight. He doesn't want to answer it. (or can't) Just go tomorrow and find out. Until then, go to your local drugstore and ask the guy behind the counter for a chill pill. (gotta love the 80's) They are kept next to the pseudoephedrine.

BTW, who are you to demand he answer you? I am sure he won't answer you now...quit being an arse.
 
I just got this off my 3G LG phone used as a bluetooth modem. It seems snapper than my cable modem does today, but the sustained throughput is lower. It sounds like EDGE can get pretty close to this. Of course I used to get like 1.5Mb when I used a laptop card, and in some other markets with the current phone.

Speed
509.3 kilobits per second
Communications 509.3 kilobits per second
Storage 62.2 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 16.5 seconds
Subjective rating Not bad

Michael
 
Man, the at&t network is gonna get SLAMMED tomorrow. I hope it isn't so jammed up in the areas around the Apple stores that people get an even worse impression of at&t's service than is already happening when the service is under a typical load.
 
hmm thts weird... i only got 249 kbits... on my Nokia N75 using 3g. if a treo with edge can top that(which it did as noted by Deanster) so i think maybe it wont be so bad with an iPhone.. but i wonder whats gonna happen to the OP..
 
Man, the at&t network is gonna get SLAMMED tomorrow. I hope it isn't so jammed up in the areas around the Apple stores that people get an even worse impression of at&t's service than is already happening when the service is under a typical load.

Why would it get slammed there?

You have to go home and activate it.

I suspect most people will be using it on Wifi as well.
 
Speedtest North TX

I've got a 3G RAZR V3xx, and it's been having 3G connectivity issues since 1.5 months ago... when I heard they were doing EDGE upgrades. My phone goes to EDGE all the time in areas I don't expect it to, and it always browses EXTREMELY slow when it does. -If at all. I have a lot of dropped calls since it happened.

So I've wondered if this is a case of resources being diverted from 3G to EDGE. Anyway...

Just did tests on my phone (dslreports) at 3G speed ( I was FINALLY able to maintain a 3G connection) This seems to be non-area specific, which I prefer because it represents real usability. The 1MB transfer stalled multiple times on EDGE and 3G, so I did the 600k test.

Results for reference:

600k
227 kbit/sec
1.213s latency
22.32s d/l time

2nd try Results:

213 kbit/sec
1.861s latency
23.411s d/l time


then I waited until my phone went to EDGE, and ran the same test.
Results:

600k
84 kbit/sec
1.436s latency
58.349s d/l time

2nd try Results:

118 kbit/sec
1.206s latency
41.219s d/l time



I never see really good 3G performance. I had one good day where I could let MobiTV stream while I was moving, but it's never been that good again. As long as EDGE holds up with all of these new internet browsing folks, I'm fine with the speed for now. But I'll have to put my iPhone on Craigslist next year when a 3G is avail. :)
 
What I dont understand is that if you need iTunes 7.3 ( the unreleased version mind you) to even activate this phone, It wont work with the current itunes version out there, why does he keep showing it off? It's not even his! its probably the stores, only logical explanation. Its the unit set up for display.

Once purchased, the at&t people will check your credit ( you can deny them and go home and do it but if you fail the credit score through iTunes 7.3, you're going to have to drive back and give 250.00, which then you can chose to get a Prepaid Plan but that will only give you 200 minutes with the unlimited data, 200 sms for 49.99). The at&t people can not activate that damn phone for you. The most they will do is bother you over and over again on how you should have your credit checked with them.

Read the manual that boygeniusreport.com posted on their website, very informative.

Hence, this is a store dummy unit. But its really not dummy. My guess is that is the store unit for people to play around with and test it. But most of us knew that around here....
 
It's likely, however...

It's completely possible (though we have not heard this) that the iPhone has the new version of iTunes in the box.

AT&T stores do not likely run a credit check on their employees for activation, as service is probably provided to employees on an employee plan. The activation for current customer method could be used.

It's still probably the store demo, especially since he's been careful to not tell us anything not already known about the phone, including the store's stock level.
 
You have a message thread with your exact place of employment clearly detailed. At the very, very minimum, you're out of a job by tonight.

More likely, your store will be shuttered by morning. I can guarantee you that you've made life utter hell for everyone above you.

The best you can do is purge every thread and hope this gets pulled off the front page, but it really is too late. Good luck.

Don't you think that's a bit paranoid? I doubt the guy would lose his job. I think you might be a bit schizophrenic (not meaning to be offensive), especially considering your handle, anonymityplus. Buddy just posted a pic of a demo iPhone. He didn't open it up or reverse engineer anything.
 
Don't you think that's a bit paranoid? I doubt the guy would lose his job. I think you might be a bit schizophrenic (not meaning to be offensive), especially considering your handle, anonymityplus. Buddy just posted a pic of a demo iPhone. He didn't open it up or reverse engineer anything.

nor did he kill anyone.
 
Do you need a credit check if you already have a contract and are paying cash on the spot?

They don't for any other handset upgrade, I seriously doubt this is any different. There has been nothing mentioned that says it would be required for a new handset to an existing account.
 
Seems my bad credit rating will be rewarded. On other sites people are trying to find out how to fake a bad rating. LOL that's too funny.
 
I just got back from AT&T 2 hours ago and the guy there said he used it in training for the first time today maybe someone like him just took pictures of their experience. Thought I do believe this guy.

18 Hours, 57 Minutes OR only 68,100 seconds to go!
 
Seems my bad credit rating will be rewarded. On other sites people are trying to find out how to fake a bad rating. LOL that's too funny.

Doesn't make any sense. I Seriously doubt someone on the gophone plan for the iphone is going to get off cheaper.
 
They don't for any other handset upgrade, I seriously doubt this is any different. There has been nothing mentioned that says it would be required for a new handset to an existing account.

The rule is, if I read right, if you already are an existing customer for 1 year or longer, they wont run the credit check on you.

It's only for new customers.

Also have a bad credit score is not good in this situation.

You have to pay, assuming you want a 4GB, 499+tax. Then, 250.00 as a security deposit which you wont see in 2 years, assuming you dont default on those damn payments. Then if you want the Pay as you go plan, the cheapest one is 200 min, with all that data bundle ****, for 49.99

Not a good option...but no contract nonetheless.

Everyone has to pay 499/599 for this damn phone.

Unless youre an Apple employee. Steve is going to give away almost 3,000 8GB iPhone end july to the part-time, full-time employees who have been there longer than 1 year.
Its on engadget.com


oh it doesnt matter if youre paying cash or not. To activate the phone you need an iTunes account. If, when you put in a SSN#, and it denies you, dont expect to be using that phone. Drive back to the at&t store and deposit that 250.00. Dont even think about putting in someone else's SSN. Because if and when you get declined, you have to drive back to the damn store where a "specialist" is going to sit down with you and talk about your credit score and your options ( that's when he'll talk about the Pay as you go)
 
It's likely, however...

It's completely possible (though we have not heard this) that the iPhone has the new version of iTunes in the box.
.

Website on apple only says documentation, no word on driver installation or anything like that.
 
System Requirements

From the Apple iPhone website:


iPhone activation requires an Internet connection; an iTunes Store account or a major credit card; a valid Social Security number (as required by AT&T); the latest version of iTunes available at www.itunes.com and a PC or Mac with a USB 2.0 port and one of the following operating systems: Mac OS® X v10.4.10 or later; Windows XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 2 or later; or Windows Vista Home Premium, Business, Enterprise or Ultimate Edition. iPhone requires a new two-year AT&T service plan. Customers with existing AT&T accounts will have the option of keeping their existing phone number and upgrading their account to work with iPhone. See separate iPhone Service Plan press release for further details.

Looking forward to version 2 ... whenever!

DIXIE :D
 
I didn't actually see this myself but a family member told me that an AT&T employee had an iPhone, given to her by her employer. She said that she was supposed to show other people and let then use it for promotional purposes. She was passing it around to everyone and supposedly letting them place calls on it. The family member who told me this said she held it but she didn't know what to do with it. She also stated that the AT&T employee didn't know much about how to use it nor did anyone she was passing it around to. I'm very skeptical and believe that my relative was duped. :D
 
I agree... guess people are jealous.

Thanks for the photos. Glad to see MacRumors renders correctly on the iPhone.

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excellent job mayne!! 19 hours left... please god hurry time up!!
 
what is the browsers user-agent string

could somebody please dig up, or post, the user-agent string for the iphone? with so many live iphones out there visiting sites like this one, it should be easy for somebody to pull it up. thanks!
 
Speedtests dont mean anything

Like broadband, there will be many bottleneck points in a mobile network, worse for mobile. It all depends on the individual cell site you are connected to and your distance from it. If the cell site has enough capacity (T1 lines) leading back to the switches at the exchanges. Bare in mind the T1 lines support both voice and data. From the exchanges, it depends on the metro network back to the headend and from the headend to the internet gateway and then the connection to the WWW. 3G may have faster transmission speeds from cell site to your phone, but that's not always the case. If ATT upgraded the EDGE network by adding more capacity, you may find the speeds as fast as 3G as indicated by the speedtests above. Not adding 3G to the iPhone is a non-issue.
 
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