Enlighten me please about the advantages of a 64 bit processor in a smartphone.
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Yeah but does anyone really care? IPhone touted this 64 bit crap and it's been a full phone cycle and what apps do we have that are 64bit and how do they noticeably improve on their 32 bit versions?
I'm not saying we shouldn't future proof, but I think 64 bit is kind of useless until we can do things like dock our phones and use them as desktop PC's.
Aren't you the same guy that supports insane specs for "future proofing"?
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/0...mmick-comments-about-the-a7s-64-bit-benefits/
Would international models be easy to root and thus install ROM's with a Mac?
I must say, the Note 4 is looking like a tempting phone to replace my Nexus 4
I must say, the Note 4 is looking like a tempting phone to replace my Nexus 4
Good specs never hurts, and the future will be 64bit, no doubt, but at the moment I can't see the advantages of a 64bit processor besides it does look good on a spec sheet.Aren't you the same guy that supports insane specs for "future proofing"?
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/0...mmick-comments-about-the-a7s-64-bit-benefits/
Am I wrong?
Not wrong of course, however as you state yourself, future proofing is a good thing. So let's congratulate Apple, for once, future proofing certain specs.
But I wonder about getting a Note 4 instead of a 6+ tho. Only cause of the removable battery, beastly RAM and finally the option to get rid of Touchwiz by rooting and ROM'ing it.
It looks like both Note 4 models won't run Android L 64bit. What this means is that both versions are using a little older processors. There will be new generation 64bit end of this year or early 15. I bet the new htc flagship will have the new generation arm processor. A 64bit processor is more then just running 64bit code. They are smaller, more powerful, more efficient, faster overall. This is how Apple gets the speed out of a dual core 1.4
That sounds like marketing speak. A 64 bit processor of any kind does not automatically make it smaller, more powerful, more efficient, etc. Better manufacturing processes, code optimization, etc. all contribute.
Biggest change (IMO) is build quality and the overall feel of the Note 4, compared to the Note 3. Gotta hold it to understand.
You are right. Even a soc 10x faster than what is available now cannot overcome bad design concept.
A very good example is the centralized settings of ios which is just ridiculously tedious and long winded to use.
And omission of the back button on ios for simplicity in hardware design in fact complicates and degrade operation efficiency.
That's not the crap apple fans have been saying for years after years now is it.
Well if it makes any difference, you won't damage your phone from removing tight cases. Some people complained about damaging the plastic silver bezel on the Note 3 (cracks, etc...)
I personally got a blemish on the bezel of my Note 2 when I used a stuff TPU case.
I personally got a blemish on the bezel of my Note 2 when I used a stuff TPU case.
As much as the first AMD 64x86 CPU's had, more or less nothing. By the time 64Bit cpus were needed the first generation were already obsolete. With the phone upgrade cycle being shorter than the PC upgrade cycle, I don't think the 5s/6 will see much benefit.
A case will always give more or less protection against drop impact, so you will be protecting the glass which can break regardless of the build quality of the rest of the phone.
The metal might also get scratched, even if it is durable in other ways. So another reason for using a case would be to keep the phone in as good condition as possible in case of a future sale, if you'd want up upgrade next year or so.
Rushed product which have lead production issues (gap gate etc), bad engineering choices which leads to extremely poor performance in high definition. This happens when you try rush products, what a flop. Only good thing is that noone isn't interested about these so not much media attention.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
Ahh, that delectable scent of hyperbole... As expected from a site called "Apple Insider" of course.
Probably they are upset that the Note 4 got the "Best performing Smartphone display that we have ever tested" grade from DisplayMate and that the + Plus then couldn't de-throne it. AI builds their whole article on the higher resolution of the Note 4 display being a waste of resources, to which DisplayMate clearly disagrees.
If the Note 4 turns out to perform well enough despite Samsung's prioritising of the screen quality before CPU performance, then perhaps it is actually Apple who have wasted resources on CPU power that isn't harnessed in day to day use anyway? And so far noone who has actually tested the Note 4 seems to have complained about it being slow in any way. All we've heard from real-world testing is that the screen is stunning. If this supposed "extremely poor performance in high definition" would actually be true, I think people would have noticed it already.
At any rate, we won't know what's what until the real, all-round testing of the Note 4 has been done. Or better yet until we the consumers who will actually buy the device have tested it for ourselves. Until then, this is all theory, PR, and trying to smear the competition.
And of course ultimately it comes down to which OS one prefers, and which device is best adapted to the large screen format in terms of functionality. Both the 6 Plus and Note 4 have stunning displays and I'm sure both will be able to handle any tasks we're able to throw at them just fine in terms of processing power.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4
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so note 4 almost 50% slower than iphone 6+ (not including metal) and you dont see that as a problem? game developers will probably do.
as far as i can see, the gap is widening every generation. in a few years, games on android will be 1-2 years late, so they can catch up performance wise. why? the usual: spec sheet, thats the only way android oems can differentiate themselves.
i understand some like android because of it features and customization but when you look at it objectively (without considering personal preferences), that business is being handled baaad. which isnt weird because googles priority now is selling cheap junk smartphones in india, not competing in flagship/ux race. android for the poor.
Haven't followed nor do I the circle jerk around bench testing. IMO real world testing for me is where it's at. My Note 3 performed better than the the 5s when side by side working on large presentations, pdfs and excel files, all of which I do regularly at work. Haven't put it up against the 6 yet.
I'm not a gamer and could care less about performance there. To me the capabilities of the phone and screen quality beat out the ability of a phone to open email, grocery IQ or browswer .1 millisecond faster. I
I don't see it that way at all. Apple is still playing catch up and with the release of the 6 and iOS 8, it's getting better but still not on par with what a Note series or higher end Android can deliver overall experience wise.
how is business being handled badly? The features and capabilities of Android and being able to configure a smart phone around how a user wants to use it vs the developers and manufacturers want them to use it is IMO what having a smart phone is all about. I want my phone to match my needs and not only do I like having choices in phones hardware wise, I love the capability that I decide how things work.
How is the above bad. Apple tried going down-stream too with the 5c. Honestly, looking at the AT&T Store yesterday, it dawned on me that Apple is missing out on a huge market of people who while want an iPhone, simply aren't gong to shell out $650 USD for one.
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Do people do serious gaming on a phone? Can't see the appeal myself, it's just not practical or comfortable with a touch screen IMO. I'm sure almost all of the flagships released recently will be more than ample speedwise if you discount gaming.
you both somehow missed this
and stop being so defensive, you sound pathetic
^^ my kids do
However, in a 3hr car ride my kids won't be bench racing phones against one another. They will likely just want to keep themselves entertained. Reality is however, they won't likely do it on a phone as today just about every kids or family has a tablet. In my case they each have iPads too. Also, Minecraft is a hot game for them and that really is pretty basic in terms of performance needs.