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Some updates from Sammobile:

We have received confirmation from our reliable insiders that the Galaxy Note 5 will feature 4GB of LP-DDR4 RAM. The Exynos 7422 SoC, that will debut with the Galaxy Note 5, will be the company’s first true single-chip solution (ePOP) combining an octa-core 64-bit CPU, GPU, RAM, storage, and the Shannon 333 LTE modem in the same package.

At this point, it's a sure thing I'll be getting Note 5's for the family.
 
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jamezr

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Some updates from Sammobile:

We have received confirmation from our reliable insiders that the Galaxy Note 5 will feature 4GB of LP-DDR4 RAM. The Exynos 7422 SoC, that will debut with the Galaxy Note 5, will be the company’s first true single-chip solution (ePOP) combining an octa-core 64-bit CPU, GPU, RAM, storage, and the Shannon 333 LTE modem in the same package.

At this point, it's a sure thing I'll be getting Note 5's for the family.
It seems to be the phone to beat! The specs sure seems to be great. Now lets tie all that into a great user experience with a smooth optimized TW and we have a winner!
 
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mclld

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If they did away with TW and followed Motorola's lead and ran stock then it would be amazing
 

Tig Bitties

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If they did away with TW and followed Motorola's lead and ran stock then it would be amazing

This

Sure these new Galaxy phones lately have top of the line hardware. But Touchwiz just sucks IMO. It's never as smooth as stock Android on my Nexus 6.

I keep reading that Samsung redid Touchwiz, it's smoother and better. I tried a Note 4, nope still same old laggy ugly Touchwiz. And then Samsung swears the S6 has all new Touchwuz, no again, still pretty much the same ugly resource hog, and crappy confusing menu settings.

I just don't think Samsung cares about ever making a nice UI. People have gotten use to crap, and now like it. Sort of like a Bic Mac at McDonald's, it's bad for you, but they sell millions of them.
 
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spinedoc77

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This

Sure these new Galaxy phones lately have top of the line hardware. But Touchwiz just sucks IMO. It's never as smooth as stock Android on my Nexus 6.

I keep reading that Samsung redid Touchwiz, it's smoother and better. I tried a Note 4, nope still same old laggy ugly Touchwiz. And then Samsung swears the S6 has all new Touchwuz, no again, still pretty much the same ugly resource hog, and crappy confusing menu settings.

I just don't think Samsung cares about ever making a nice UI. People have gotten use to crap, and now like it. Sort of like a Bic Mac at McDonald's, it's bad for you, but they sell millions of them.

If they did away with TW and followed Motorola's lead and ran stock then it would be amazing

I highly disagree, although not for the reasons said. TW is slow and laggy, I agree 100%, but it's head and shoulders above stock Google, no question about it. Stock android doesn't have multi window, it's still an "experimental" feature you have to enable, when Samsung has had this for years. It's not even worth mentioning because of the hoops you have to jump through, no one but a hardcore techie would even think about enabling it. One handed mode, stylus/snote, etc I could go on. Even though TW sucks from a performance standpoint you couldn't pry it out of my cold dead fingers. If you just want a phablet on stock android you always have the Nexus 6.
 

jamezr

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If they did away with TW and followed Motorola's lead and ran stock then it would be amazing
It would be nice to see that as a choice. But Samsung is never going to get rid of TW. It is here to stay. Then stock Android is pretty featureless. There are some nice things about TW they just need to make it better.
For me if i could root/unlock boot loader and flash roms on my samsung phones, I would run CM12 rom but with more features than stock Android.
 

mclld

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I don't mind tw, I am just talking about all the bloat. I don't run stock either, Nova on stock is a must for me
 
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RMXO

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Of course news of an early Note 5 release comes out after I go out and get a mint conditioned Nexus 6 from someone on this board since I returned my S6 Edge yesterday. Sigh, LOL, this what I get for being impatient. Hopefully the Note 5 sim will be a nano card so I can switch between Nexus 6 and Note 5 easily.

Speaking of Samsung's updates, I predict Note 5 will come out with 5.1.x and we'll have wait 6+ months to get M, LOL. Thank god for XDA.
 

jamezr

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Of course news of an early Note 5 release comes out after I go out and get a mint conditioned Nexus 6 from someone on this board since I returned my S6 Edge yesterday. Sigh, LOL, this what I get for being impatient. Hopefully the Note 5 sim will be a nano card so I can switch between Nexus 6 and Note 5 easily.

Speaking of Samsung's updates, I predict Note 5 will come out with 5.1.x and we'll have wait 6+ months to get M, LOL. Thank god for XDA.

I think your right about 5.1.X. Releasing the Note 5 early along with the 6 edge means M will not be there. Hopefully they won't make us wait until Jan or Feb to get it.
 

MRU

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Speaking of Samsung's updates, I predict Note 5 will come out with 5.1.x and we'll have wait 6+ months to get M, LOL. Thank god for XDA.

I think your right about 5.1.X. Releasing the Note 5 early along with the 6 edge means M will not be there. Hopefully they won't make us wait until Jan or Feb to get it.

Yep.. I said this ages ago simply because of product manufacture, that if August reveal and late August / September release is true - then the Note 5 is basically in production now and the software on it will pretty much likely be near finalised, which means it is likely either 5.0.2 / 5.1 or 5.1.1

There was never a chance of it being launched with Android M, that was always just wishful thinking.
 
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MRU

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Making 64GB as standard should be the focus with no SD card

I assume 32 / 64 / 128 will be the SKU's. They wouldn't start at 64 as it takes away the possibility of getting a significant extra $ from the consumer. It would be bad business move for themselves.
 

jamezr

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I assume 32 / 64 / 128 will be the SKU's. They wouldn't start at 64 as it takes away the possibility of getting a significant extra $ from the consumer. It would be bad business move for themselves.
Yeah I think it will be 32, 64, 128 also. The Note line always starts with 32 anyway.
 

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Yeah I think it will be 32, 64, 128 also. The Note line always starts with 32 anyway.
Probably, though my hope is that it starts at 64GB since they're removing the SD card, like how they did with the GS6 by starting it at 32gb instead of 16gb because they removed the SD card.
 

jamezr

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Probably, though my hope is that it starts at 64GB since they're removing the SD card, like how they did with the GS6 by starting it at 32gb instead of 16gb because they removed the SD card.
Man...I like your logical thinking!
 

MRU

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Probably, though my hope is that it starts at 64GB since they're removing the SD card, like how they did with the GS6 by starting it at 32gb instead of 16gb because they removed the SD card.
It will remain a hope.

Reality.... Samsung could make an extra $80-100 by upselling a 32 to a 64.

That potential increased profit margin for a company still that is having a hard time despite the success of S6 outstrips anyone's hopes that they will give us all a storage bump for 'free'...
 

Twixt

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I am afraid Samsung will take out SD card slot which will make Note 5 much less appealing.
I like my 160GB note 4 and the opportunity to swap cards if necessary or stick micro SD in my laptop for large transfers without using Kies...

S and Note lines dont share the same users and needs!
 

MRU

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S and Note lines dont share the same users and needs!

Samsung's balance sheet however does. It needs to generate greater profit margins. That greatly supersedes users like yourself who would be extremely 'niche' in needing such high capacity storage on a mobile device.

This is wholly a decision based on best commerce for Samsung. Samsung want to be the ones that you have to buy your extra storage from - thus upsell their device and generate more $profit - rather than you buy the lower cost model and buy your SD card memory from a third party.

At the end of the day - it's just business sense.
 

spinedoc77

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It will remain a hope.

Reality.... Samsung could make an extra $80-100 by upselling a 32 to a 64.

That potential increased profit margin for a company still that is having a hard time despite the success of S6 outstrips anyone's hopes that they will give us all a storage bump for 'free'...

I suppose it depends on whether they will make more money selling more phones because consumers like having 64gb versus making more money upselling 32gb to 64gb. Normally I'd say they make more money upselling, but it seems to me the Note consumer is a bit more hardcore and aware of things like onboard memory. I think that making the base model 32gb for the same price as the Note 4 (if not more as we saw with the s6) coupled with ditching the removable memory may make a bad impression on a typical Note consumer.
 

RMXO

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If the new thin A8 can have a micro SD slot so can the Note 5. I still have faith that it will.
 
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Saturn1217

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I suppose it depends on whether they will make more money selling more phones because consumers like having 64gb versus making more money upselling 32gb to 64gb. Normally I'd say they make more money upselling, but it seems to me the Note consumer is a bit more hardcore and aware of things like onboard memory. I think that making the base model 32gb for the same price as the Note 4 (if not more as we saw with the s6) coupled with ditching the removable memory may make a bad impression on a typical Note consumer.

I kind of agree but for different reasons. I think Samsung's #1 goal at this point has to be to get more high end Samsung phones in consumers hands period. Once marketshare is lost, you can produce the next Jesus phone and still not get back to where you were. I think this is Samsung's primary concern. While I actually believe that there are a lot of Note users that are not very hardcore (they simply like big screens) I think Samsung will want to throw as large a net as possible because this year was supposed to be their comeback year and if that fails they are in trouble. I think a reduction in margins is going to be a lot less troubling to shareholders than decreased units sold.

The big question is: for those who are upset about the loss of SD cards, will 64gb base storage make up for that? For me personally 32gb is more than enough so I can't really make an educated guess for people who have very different storage needs.
 
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