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Oh dear.

Well my CPW colleagues have text to say it's been taken off our Pie / PinPoint systems and they're no longer able to sell them.

Guess I may need to go back to my trusty Priv then but I wonder how they will go about the recall.
Will we likely be compensated?
 
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Do you have AOD on ? That will drain / use about 10% battery overall with biggest noticeable impact at night when your not using it.

I was getting over 1.5 hour less SOT with my S7 with AOD enabled than disabling it. Now I get closer to 6 hours SOT with my exynos variant.


Re: recall - if they are collecting them from carriers I think it's only a matter of time before they have to publically do a recall for those devices that are out in the wild.

I do have AOD active but it's still draining and screen on time literally drops a percentage every 5 mins. I'd say I'm getting 30 mins per 10%. Is this normal? Is it because I've only cycled the device twice so far?
 
I don't think it's going OTT to call this an absolute disaster for Samsung.

Their best ever phone, and it needs a recall within a month. Crazy.

However, they are a big enough company to ride it out, I'm sure. But will damage them.

Hopefully they reduce the price by a fair bit!
 
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I do have AOD active but it's still draining and screen on time literally drops a percentage every 5 mins. I'd say I'm getting 30 mins per 10%. Is this normal? Is it because I've only cycled the device twice so far?

You shouldn't have to cycle the battery, can you post your battery usage stats from settings.

30 mins SOT for 10% would be 5 hours SOT overall which seems normal.
 
So CPW will be contacting us once they have the replacements in stock to replace the handset.

Contract people will also receive a £50 gift card as inconvenience payment.
 
Oh dear.

Well my CPW colleagues have text to say it's been taken off our Pie / PinPoint systems and they're no longer able to sell them.

Guess I may need to go back to my trusty Priv then but I wonder how they will go about the recall.
Will we likely be compensated?

Those users who have to return their devices may get some token such as Samsung Galaxy App Store Voucher credit or possibly a free wireless charger or such.

Those like me who never received it from their carriers yet, will get nothing.
 
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So CPW will be contacting us once they have the replacements in stock to replace the handset.

Contract people will also receive a £50 gift card as inconvenience payment.

Where'd you hear this?
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You shouldn't have to cycle the battery, can you post your battery usage stats from settings.

30 mins SOT for 10% would be 5 hours SOT overall which seems normal.

I'll post them once I've charged the phone again, as I've been using the VR which of course, will drain it.

Do you have any idea why Android system is taking over 40% battery?
 
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I'll post them once I've charged the phone again, as I've been using the VR which of course, will drain it.

Do you have any idea why Android system is taking over 40% battery?

I went into the store where I collected mine from on Tuesday. Said it'd be a couple of weeks.
 
I don't think it's going OTT to call this an absolute disaster for Samsung.

Their best ever phone, and it needs a recall within a month. Crazy.

However, they are a big enough company to ride it out, I'm sure. But will damage them.

Hopefully they reduce the price by a fair bit!
Yeah it's really a shame. They had such incredible momentum after the initial unveiling of the N7 - what a lost opportunity. In the end I feel like everyone loses because of this. In fact I was happy that Apple was getting some true competition - the N7 is the first Android phone in years that had made me put the iPhone aside without a doubt. But now I think Samsung will in fact just underline the reliability aspect of Apple's brand, and the unreliability of their own. They might end up losing far more than the flow they were having with N7 sales.

I hope they really take their time and do this right. And then come back with a properly tested N7 and pick up where they left off before this crap hit the fan.
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But it's not a progression from the S7 edge, or it shouldn't be. The Note 7 was released what, 4-5 months after the S7--it's design is probably well past its final stages of testing by that point else they'd never be able to have it manufactured in quantity for this August release. This phone designs probably start well before even the previous version--the Note 8 is likely well along in its development.

Compare it to the Note 5--different frame, different display/glass, addition of the microSD, new iris scanner, making it waterproof again, USB-C. Those alone are some pretty significant changes alone. And doing that level of change twice a year--pretty amazing. That hectic pace was bound to lead to something like this.



See my comment above. Samsung is doing signficant changes every year to 2 (or 3) different flagships. That's a lot to do a couple times a year.

Again, I'm not picking on Samsung here, nor am I apologizing for them. I think it's a symptom of crazy industry expectations to do something significantly noticeable with every release. I wouldn't fault Samsung at all for adopting something similar to what Apple does with the iPhone or Intel with their CPUs--a tick-tock type upgrade cycle--that would allow them to focus on optimization and refinement.

I agree. So far it's been difficult for Samsung because they haven't struck a really solid design to build upon and refine. But with the Note 7, they certainly have the opportunity to just chill with an already excellent design and simply refine it, at least for one cycle. I really, really hope they leave the Note 7 design be and just go quality quality quality for next year's version. And that would include customer support and software design...
 
Those users who have to return their devices may get some token such as Samsung Galaxy App Store Voucher credit or possibly a free wireless charger or such.

Those like me who never received it from their carriers yet, will get nothing.

Blimey, you've had a right raw deal here.
I'd understand completely if you just knocked it on the head and ended up cancelling completely and going with something else.

I kinda hope it isn't a wireless charger, having already bought one!

My mate at work who bought one and got his Tuesday too (came from iPhone) is raging.
It's put him off completely and now he's gonna call Vodafone to find out what the deal is and cancel it. Think he's just going to wait it out and upgrade to the iPhone 7.

Not a good situation.

And re the CPW orders - it is correct that £50 is being given to pay monthly customers affected who have their pre-order devices already. Just had the official comms from my colleagues there.
 
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And re the CPW orders - it is correct that £50 is being given to pay monthly customers affected who have their pre-order devices already. Just had the official comms from my colleagues there.

Free wireless charger for me then :D

Are the Samsung wireless chargers for sale in CPW fast chargers?

I don't see the big fuss tbh. Its less of a hassle than the numerous car recalls I've had. Yes, for those without a handset it is an inconvenience but thats it. I have a phone right now and they are gonna give me a new one in a couple of weeks? Whats there to get upset about?
 
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Free wireless charger for me then :D

Are the Samsung wireless chargers for sale in CPW fast chargers?

I don't see the big fuss tbh. Its less of a hassle than the numerous car recalls I've had. Yes, for those without a handset it is an inconvenience but thats it. I have a phone right now and they are gonna give me a new one in a couple of weeks? Whats there to get upset about?

For some it will be a minor inconvenience. For others they may be hesitant to use a device in the interim or perhaps no longer have another device.

For some who availed of upgrades and sold them off - it represents a headache if the recall has to go back through the carrier.

For those that imported dual sim models, a recall is a major obstacle as often they would need to be returned to seller or originating country for replacement.

So whilst it may not be too bothersome for some, it could be very awkward for others.

For some like myself who thankfully cancelled one order through three and switched to Vodafone, for myself it's just time and of course the more time I spend waiting the greater my impulse purchase is dampened. If I had kept my three order I would have paid fully in advance for the device, to be left in limbo wondering when it would eventually ship, that would irk me more.
 
Wow this thing has got legs. It's been breaking. News on sky news for the past 3 hours.

It plants a seed of doubt in consumers minds, even when eventually rectified it's hard to shift a seed once planted. It will be interesting to see what Samsung do to recover momentum.
 
Quite unacceptable for a premium priced device to have such a deadly flaw which was not picked up before release. This ain't the first smartphone to have battery issues but not so they had to be recalled. However, they had no choice but to pull the plug and recall them all as would be liable in UK under corporate manslaughter for example, if through a fire, death occurred. Likewise, risk to each person is also unacceptable as could not guarantee safety. Shame really for Samsung as whatever happens this line up will be tainted with such bad publicity. They will lose out on sales and compensation claims and a reduction in consumer confidence in them potentially. On the plus side, Apple IPhone 7 release is coming at a great time and will benefit.
 
Quite unacceptable for a premium priced device to have such a deadly flaw which was not picked up before release.

Yeah I'm surprised this managed to get through CE testing / certification which is supposed to uncover these things before they even got to this stage.
 
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Does anyone know what we're actually supposed to do? Do we take our devices to CPW where they'll put a new one on order for us or do we retain our devices until they have the replacements in stock and then swap it?
 
Does anyone know what we're actually supposed to do? Do we take our devices to CPW where they'll put a new one on order for us or do we retain our devices until they have the replacements in stock and then swap it?
Keep your current one and they'll contact you when the replacement is in. Simples.
 
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What were actually supposed to do is a good question. I think it's just a case of wait it out and see whether it's samsung who want the devices back or whether it's the networks. Interesting times.

I'm gutted really. It has left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth for my first galaxy device.
 
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So the issues is in 1 in every 42000 devices? As a percentage 0.002? Are my maths right?
[doublepost=1472812172][/doublepost]If thats the case then they'll be the first company in the world to recall on those sort of failure rates.
 
So the issues is in 1 in every 42000 devices? As a percentage 0.002? Are my maths right?

Yesterday it was reported that Samsung claimed as many as 1% could potentially have the issue.

There is a of course a difference between potential and actual devices found with the defect - so whilst actual cases of exploding batteries will be vastly smaller, the potential for it to be much bigger is why they have had to do a global recall.

There hasn't been such a global recall of a new major smartphone on this kind of scale ever before as far as I can recall, which has to stand as testament to how potentially dangerous or damaging this could be in context.

Samsung are doing the right thing, but its still a PR nightmare.
 
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It plants a seed of doubt in consumers minds, even when eventually rectified it's hard to shift a seed once planted. It will be interesting to see what Samsung do to recover momentum.
I agree. I mean I would buy another Samsung phone. Simply because I've bought them in the past and have not had any of these kind of issues. I find them to be reliable and I think this is just an unfortunate manufacturing defect. It happens. However for the average buyer who doesn't have the same vested interest it will put people off and not just the note 7 when its eventually ready to go back on sale. People will look at other Samsung phones like the S7 edge and wonder if they are safe too.

It's a real shame as Samsung managed to pull themselves back this year after a couple of years on the decline. They have released some excellent phones and smart watches this year and they really don't deserve this.
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Quite unacceptable for a premium priced device to have such a deadly flaw which was not picked up before release. This ain't the first smartphone to have battery issues but not so they had to be recalled. However, they had no choice but to pull the plug and recall them all as would be liable in UK under corporate manslaughter for example, if through a fire, death occurred. Likewise, risk to each person is also unacceptable as could not guarantee safety. Shame really for Samsung as whatever happens this line up will be tainted with such bad publicity. They will lose out on sales and compensation claims and a reduction in consumer confidence in them potentially. On the plus side, Apple IPhone 7 release is coming at a great time and will benefit.
It seems like Apple have got another get out of jail card this year. Despite all signs pointing to a lacklustre release.
 
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Wow this thing has got legs. It's been breaking. News on sky news for the past 3 hours.
Really? Oh dear. As soon as it hits the news channels that's when people take notice. It's going to be hard for Samsung to recover from this Straight away. It's clearly going to effect some sales for people who for one are undecided.
 
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