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Roadstar

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Last year prices increased by €70 and this year by another €70-80. So in two years your up between €120-150 :(

Yep, quite a lot of price increase yet still not that much functional increase. Yes, waterproofing would be nice, but also stuff like Apple Pay would also be nice to get.
 
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M5RahuL

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I am confused as to whether to get the 32GB iPhone 7 Plus or the 128 gigs Jet Black iPhone 7.I dont want to spend more on the 128GB Plus variant as I am getting the iPhone 8 just for the OLED display next year.

If read/write speeds are a concern, opt for the 128 over 32.
 

spriter

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To have the iPhone 7 it would have cost me £200 more over the course of 2 years compared to my previous iPhone and the 6S which I ended up with. I'm losing interest with having the latest and greatest and the 6S is cheap while being good enough for me. Lots of people in the UK are blaming Brexit but our economy is on the up since June. I think it's more likely manufacturers and carriers cashing in. Well they didn't sting me! ;)
I'm with you on the prices... Diminishing returns in premium phones these days meaning declining value for money for most people. However, most people don't know or care about this so just buy regardless.

As for the prices and the economy, it's more to do with exchange rates rather than the overall economic trend which, as you point out, has not been impacted as people thought. Pre-brexit vote rate of $1.45 USD to the £ versus $1.30 now does hurt imports though.
 

MRU

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Yep, quite a lot of price increase yet still not that much functional increase. Yes, waterproofing would be nice, but also stuff like Apple Pay would also be nice to get.

Exactly. When we still don't have services like Apple Pay or even an apple device retail store here it would be nice to get these services whilst asking us to pay more and more...
 
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kasakka

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So Note 7 owners, can you answer a few questions for me:
  • How do you like the curved display? I notice it's more subtle than on the S7 Edge but do you experience issues viewing websites for example or anything that has controls close to the edge of the screen? Do you feel the curved display adds anything to the phone?
  • Does it have anything to control notification light colors per app or do you have to use a 3rd party app for that?
  • Is it possible to use on-screen buttons instead of the hardware ones?
  • How fast is the fingerprint reader and do you find it comfortable to use?
  • Any annoyances with the software or hardware?
 

UAV

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How do you like the curved display? I notice it's more subtle than on the S7 Edge but do you experience issues viewing websites for example or anything that has controls close to the edge of the screen? Do you feel the curved display adds anything to the phone?
best feeling phone in my hand so far even better than the new iphone

Does it have anything to control notification light colors per app or do you have to use a 3rd party app for that?
there are apps that will control the led colors. for example you have blue for emails, red for text, green for messg etc..

Is it possible to use on-screen buttons instead of the hardware ones? no but you must remember the home button is the only hard button the other 2 which are back and recent apps are both on screen buttons so your actually get both.

How fast is the fingerprint reader and do you find it comfortable to use? i don't ever use it not even with my iphone and i never use a lock screen but i have tried it and it is fast not as fast as say an honor8 or iphone. but fast enough the fastest one i have used is the honor8



Any annoyances with the software or hardware? not really keep in mind that i have used every other note phone before this one. so i already know how to fix most issues.


on a side note i usually buy both phones every year but this year i am not buy the iphone7. and even after having both phones my daily driver always seems to be my trusty note series. for the main reason is that i hate it when i have to do something and the iphone is not able to do it. so yea the note is always with me
 
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spinedoc77

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I have both. No issues with either. The ip7+ seems to always show 3 bars or less indoors, but no issues noticed. I'm on T-mobile.

Thanks. Just to update I had the dBm of each phone running as I drove to work today, 40 minutes and 4 highways and through a few towns. Phones were placed at approximately the same spot. I was surprised, the Note 7 was almost always 10-20 dBm better than the iPhone 7, although neither dropped signal at all. The Note 7 jumped around a lot, but never went below what the iPhone 7 was at. The iPhone 7 didn't jump around at all, even if the signal was a bit high it didn't fluctuate more than 1 or 2 dBm. It seems that the Note 7 has much stronger signal, but the value of this if you have enough signal to get the job done is unclear. I didn't do any speedtests so not sure there.
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So Note 7 owners, can you answer a few questions for me:
  • How do you like the curved display? I notice it's more subtle than on the S7 Edge but do you experience issues viewing websites for example or anything that has controls close to the edge of the screen? Do you feel the curved display adds anything to the phone?
  • Does it have anything to control notification light colors per app or do you have to use a 3rd party app for that?
  • Is it possible to use on-screen buttons instead of the hardware ones?
  • How fast is the fingerprint reader and do you find it comfortable to use?
  • Any annoyances with the software or hardware?

Curved display: I'm not crazy about it, but I don't hate it either. I find the curved areas are functionally inferior to the flat part due to glare, distortion, etc. But it sure as heck makes the phone narrow and easy to hold. You get used to it after a while.

Notification lights: You can turn on or off, or use a 3rd party app.

On screen buttons: I'm sure you can find an app for it, but out of the box it only uses the capacitive ones.

The FP reader is very fast, just as fast as the ip7+ one IMO, they both have errors at about the same rate. The ip7+ one is a bit worse than the ip6s+ one, maybe it's the new technology.

Initially I had lag issues, currently it's not lagging on my new Note 7 so I'm pretty happy. But sometimes lag takes a few weeks to manifest. If you get the Verizon version they removed some stuff like Samsung Cloud to force you to pay for their version. Messaging still sucks and Google is just making it worse.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Thanks. Just to update I had the dBm of each phone running as I drove to work today, 40 minutes and 4 highways and through a few towns. Phones were placed at approximately the same spot. I was surprised, the Note 7 was almost always 10-20 dBm better than the iPhone 7, although neither dropped signal at all. The Note 7 jumped around a lot, but never went below what the iPhone 7 was at. The iPhone 7 didn't jump around at all, even if the signal was a bit high it didn't fluctuate more than 1 or 2 dBm. It seems that the Note 7 has much stronger signal, but the value of this if you have enough signal to get the job done is unclear. I didn't do any speedtests so not sure there.

My Speedtests between the two are similar. Outside, the iPhone 7 always shows full bars (of course with the exception of spotty areas), but indoors it's always 3 bars while the Note 7 remains at full bars. I've yet to see any lower call quality, drop calls, or struggling data.
 
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spinedoc77

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Also wanted to add, I'm still having a hard time choosing between the ip7+ and the Note 7. I'd gladly keep them both, but the ecosystem differences will make it too difficult to switch between them at will. I think the Note 7 is pulling ahead, it's just hard not to realize it IS a superior phone in almost every way. Holding one in each hand the 7+ just feels so antiquated.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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So Note 7 owners, can you answer a few questions for me:
  • How do you like the curved display? I notice it's more subtle than on the S7 Edge but do you experience issues viewing websites for example or anything that has controls close to the edge of the screen? Do you feel the curved display adds anything to the phone?
  • Does it have anything to control notification light colors per app or do you have to use a 3rd party app for that?
  • Is it possible to use on-screen buttons instead of the hardware ones?
  • How fast is the fingerprint reader and do you find it comfortable to use?
  • Any annoyances with the software or hardware?


1) The edge looks good, and gives you a bezel free feeling. I personally love it. The design is also one of the major reasons Samsung was able to fit a bigger display on a smaller device than many other phones. But IMO, there is no true benefit user wise, with the expection of being easier to hold and use one handed.

2) Thrid party app. But it works very well.

3) Not natively as far as I know, unless there is some hidden setting.

4) The finger print senor on the Note 7 (after the recent update) is actually faster than the iPhone 7 plus.

5) For myself, several seconds lag in the keyboard popping up right after a restart when it prompts you to enter password before you can use finger or Iris unlock. Other than that, I have no issues.
 
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macfacts

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The update wasn't app updates it was to get the green battery icon and software optimizations and improvements. It has made a world of difference for me on T-Mobile.

The green battery icon update was only 40mb for users in Canada. (I'm on windmobile)

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spinedoc77

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My Speedtests between the two are similar. Outside, the iPhone 7 always shows full bars (of course with the exception of spotty areas), but indoors it's always 3 bars while the Note 7 remains at full bars. I've yet to see any lower call quality, drop calls, or struggling data though.

I've noticed that the Note 7 has higher bars as well. Right now I'm in my office and the Note 7 is at -99dBm with 5 bars and the IP7+ is at -109dBm and 2 bars. Interesting to note how different they interpret signal.

Edit: Speedtest with the above reception, LTE area. iPhone: 12.93Mbps down/14.92Mbps up. Note 7: 17.58Mbps down/23.99Mbps up.
 
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soulreaver99

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Also wanted to add, I'm still having a hard time choosing between the ip7+ and the Note 7. I'd gladly keep them both, but the ecosystem differences will make it too difficult to switch between them at will. I think the Note 7 is pulling ahead, it's just hard not to realize it IS a superior phone in almost every way. Holding one in each hand the 7+ just feels so antiquated.

Agree completely. Thinking of returning the iPhone 7+ and just keep my 6S because there is hardly any difference except for the missing headphone jack. Really miss the Note 7 and tempted to pick one up
 

HiDEF

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I picked up my Note 7 v2 on Saturday and it still sits sealed in the box. I just don't know if it's smart to keep it with the paranoia it brings. The FAA still hasn't cleared the ban and who knows how long that will last. Anyway, still debating if I should return it and just settle with the iPhone.

@jamezr how's the iPhone 7+?
 

bgro

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Also wanted to add, I'm still having a hard time choosing between the ip7+ and the Note 7. I'd gladly keep them both, but the ecosystem differences will make it too difficult to switch between them at will. I think the Note 7 is pulling ahead, it's just hard not to realize it IS a superior phone in almost every way. Holding one in each hand the 7+ just feels so antiquated.
That was always the difficulty with my choice, basically came down to a MUCH better ecosystem vs. a MUCH better phone. I still think I might favor the ecosystem just because i need to simplify my life as I grow up and kids take up most of my time now. Less time to tinker with stuff altho i still get bored sh*tless with my iPhone.
 

jamezr

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I picked up my Note 7 v2 on Saturday and it still sits sealed in the box. I just don't know if it's smart to keep it with the paranoia it brings. The FAA still hasn't cleared the ban and who knows how long that will last. Anyway, still debating if I should return it and just settle with the iPhone.

@jamezr how's the iPhone 7+?

I'm loving my 7+ plus so far! It has occasional lag scrolling and opening some apps. But nothing major.
 
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spinedoc77

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That was always the difficulty with my choice, basically came down to a MUCH better ecosystem vs. a MUCH better phone. I still think I might favor the ecosystem just because i need to simplify my life as I grow up and kids take up most of my time now. Less time to tinker with stuff altho i still get bored sh*tless with my iPhone.

I don't blame you, the ecosystem on Apple is great. I will miss imessage. I'll also miss the ubiquity of facetime as now I have to wrestle with getting friends and family to install, well I'm not sure what I'll use. Google really should be ashamed of their own ineptness, of all companies they could EASILY have the strongest ecosystems, yet continue to just put out junk after junk.

I was ok with being bored with my iPhone, I get bored with anything technology these days. But I just found too many things were so rooted in antiquity, or had to be in a walled garden, that they stunted my functionality and slowed me down.
 

mi7chy

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I've noticed that the Note 7 has higher bars as well. Right now I'm in my office and the Note 7 is at -99dBm with 5 bars and the IP7+ is at -109dBm and 2 bars. Interesting to note how different they interpret signal.

Isn't the dBm to signal bar ratio difference has to do with dBm being logarithmic and not linear measurement?
 

spinedoc77

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Isn't the dBm to signal bar ratio difference has to do with dBm being logarithmic and not linear measurement?
Yes it's not linear, I was just pointing out that they assign number of bars a bit differently. So an iphone at 3 bars might be at -100 and another phone at 3 bars might be at -90. Totally made up numbers just as an example.
 

bgro

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I don't blame you, the ecosystem on Apple is great. I will miss imessage. I'll also miss the ubiquity of facetime as now I have to wrestle with getting friends and family to install, well I'm not sure what I'll use. Google really should be ashamed of their own ineptness, of all companies they could EASILY have the strongest ecosystems, yet continue to just put out junk after junk.

I was ok with being bored with my iPhone, I get bored with anything technology these days. But I just found too many things were so rooted in antiquity, or had to be in a walled garden, that they stunted my functionality and slowed me down.

See I never felt stunted by the lack of features in iOS although there are just as many workarounds for certain things as there are workarounds for certain Android based tasks/services. I just plain out think the Note is much more fun to use and the functionality is so much greater than what iOS offers that it makes a lot of my tasks easier and more efficient. So basically I can do everything fine on iOS but I can do things in a much more pleasant manner on Android. Not too mention the usefulness of an integrated Google now/assistant and some of the smart features that Android offers. But at the end of the day the messaging and photo library that the Apple ecosystem offers is just so much better. I keep flipping back and forth between what I want, yesterday I was all about the Note today i'm sticking with my iPhone. Sometimes I wake up forgetting what decision I made the night before lol
 

spinedoc77

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Hey, do you guys on the Note 7 on Verizon get a LTE icon? I'm only getting a 4G icon, the 4g with arrows under it to the left of the signal bars. I totally forgot if my old Note 7 had a LTE icon. I called Verizon and the tech said the Note 7 didn't have a LTE icon at all, but that sounds really screwy.
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See I never felt stunted by the lack of features in iOS although there are just as many workarounds for certain things as there are workarounds for certain Android based tasks/services. I just plain out think the Note is much more fun to use and the functionality is so much greater than what iOS offers that it makes a lot of my tasks easier and more efficient. So basically I can do everything fine on iOS but I can do things in a much more pleasant manner on Android. Not too mention the usefulness of an integrated Google now/assistant and some of the smart features that Android offers. But at the end of the day the messaging and photo library that the Apple ecosystem offers is just so much better. I keep flipping back and forth between what I want, yesterday I was all about the Note today i'm sticking with my iPhone. Sometimes I wake up forgetting what decision I made the night before lol

Yeah I agree, it's not that I couldn't find work arounds on the iPhone, it's just that those work arounds slowed me down. You should look at OneDrive, it really frees you from any ecosystem since you can use it anywhere. iCloud has always been way too restrictive for me if I have any non Apple device.

I'm still flipping like that. Yesterday I was all Note 7. This morning I was all iPhone, but the more I fondled the Note 7 the more it appealed to me and now I'm into the Note 7. I am sorely tempted to keep them both, but for no good reason.
 

bgro

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Hey, do you guys on the Note 7 on Verizon get a LTE icon? I'm only getting a 4G icon, the 4g with arrows under it to the left of the signal bars. I totally forgot if my old Note 7 had a LTE icon. I called Verizon and the tech said the Note 7 didn't have a LTE icon at all, but that sounds really screwy.
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Yeah I agree, it's not that I couldn't find work arounds on the iPhone, it's just that those work arounds slowed me down. You should look at OneDrive, it really frees you from any ecosystem since you can use it anywhere. iCloud has always been way too restrictive for me if I have any non Apple device.

I'm still flipping like that. Yesterday I was all Note 7. This morning I was all iPhone, but the more I fondled the Note 7 the more it appealed to me and now I'm into the Note 7. I am sorely tempted to keep them both, but for no good reason.
Well my prior post got me thinking about he 7+ again so I just unpacked it again and set it up. Nothing special at all compared to my 6S+. Camera isn't much more than a slight incremental upgrade and no real world speed differences imo. UGH. I just need to get a note again and play with it a little again to make my final decision. iCloud Drive absolutely sucks imo. I use google drive and am very happy with it especially since it's cross platform. I have a feeling if I'm not feeling the Nite after round 2 that I'll be sticking with my 6S+ until the S8 series is announced
[doublepost=1474940831][/doublepost]To add to my post, the 7+ is getting so hot as the apps restore and the hiss is very present! Don't mean to get off topic in this thread just showing that the Samsung aren't the only phones that get hot
 
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Roadstar

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See I never felt stunted by the lack of features in iOS although there are just as many workarounds for certain things as there are workarounds for certain Android based tasks/services. I just plain out think the Note is much more fun to use and the functionality is so much greater than what iOS offers that it makes a lot of my tasks easier and more efficient. So basically I can do everything fine on iOS but I can do things in a much more pleasant manner on Android. Not too mention the usefulness of an integrated Google now/assistant and some of the smart features that Android offers. But at the end of the day the messaging and photo library that the Apple ecosystem offers is just so much better. I keep flipping back and forth between what I want, yesterday I was all about the Note today i'm sticking with my iPhone. Sometimes I wake up forgetting what decision I made the night before lol

Yeah it's a difficult choice, but at least for me messaging and photo library no longer have any real advantage on iOS as it's nowadays somewhat rare for me to receive an iMessage as my friends have more or less migrated to Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger. The photo library is a more interesting case. I was happily (granted, there was one glitch where I seemed to lose some photos) using iCloud Photo Library until I got my first 16GB iPhone since the iPhone 3G. I assumed it would work like advertised and sync stuff away to iCloud when my device is almost full. Well, it was quite the opposite. I was constantly getting the low space warnings when I had iCloud Photo Library enabled as the algorithm was like "Oh sweet! Pictures from 2004 last viewed in 2007! He'll surely love these and spend the remaining 200MB on these, inbound sync coming right up!". After this trainwreck of trying to use iCloud Photo Library on a 16GB device, I migrated to Google Photos and that's working at least predictably and actually frees space on my phone when instructed to instead of hogging all the rest of the non-existent space.

Well, as an upside it's now quite easy to move between platforms as Whatsapp, Facebook Messenger, and Google Photos all work on both iOS and Android. However, when I finally get my Note 7, I think I'll miss my Apple Watch.
 
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