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Yeah no update on mine, otherwise root isnt possible.I don't think spinedoc77 installed the update on his though (verizon) and others have reported smoother performance too on canadian handsets. Doesn't make a difference either way I suppose, better is better for whatever reason
I really like the look of the jet black iPhone, probably my favorite design. But yeah, the huge bezels really detract from the look once it's turned on.
Both designs are so close to perfection for me. If Samsung had used 3d touch buttons for the home/back/recent, removed the front logo, and made it true black I think the Note would look spectacular. Or if the iPhone went with an edge to edge SAMOLED screen. Maybe next year.
No distortion. The back of the phone vibrates a lot in my hands. Other phones I have had with dual speakers don't vibrate this much...like the Nexus 6p or the Axon 7 and way back on the M7
No I agree, the 7+ looks much nicer turned off. Apple matched the black bezels with the screen off perfectly and you almost have to turn it at an angle to see the difference. The Note 7, of course, has that fugly Samsung logo on the front, and it's bezels are a lighter black than the screen off. I wouldn't say the 7+ is markedly better looking IMO, just looking at the 2 form factors the Note is more pleasing to the eye. BUT when you turn on the screen , forget it all bets are off. You wonder to yourself how the heck Samsung fit that screen in such a small phone. Those comparison pics don't really do this justice, but having them both side by side you can really discern a marked difference in size and the bezels on the iPhone become comical.
They are both beautiful phones though and you can't go wrong!!
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The iPad Pro 12.9 really vibrates with the speakers, it sounds fantastic but takes a while to get used to the vibration.No distortion. The back of the phone vibrates a lot in my hands. Other phones I have had with dual speakers don't vibrate this much...like the Nexus 6p or the Axon 7 and way back on the M7
I agree about bezels and it's the reason I've never considered the Plus. The phone is massive and not far off holding an iPad Mini to your ear. Looks wise they are both consistent with their brand image.
You are allowed to customize with Android. Below is Firefox with a add-on (userstyles.org) that lets you use custom stylesheets.
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The battery estimation is that, merely an estimated time. It assumes you will be running CPU and GPU intensive tasks which would benefit from the reduced resolution.
If you didn't game or such on your device and we're running essentially bog standard 2D tasks/apps (not rendering CPU load tasks) then your actual benefit battery wise reducing resolution alone would be negligible.
You would have a greater impact on battery life simply reducing the brightness than lowering resolution alone.
So Samsung are not being dishonest, but people are not understanding fully how lowering res would benefit or wouldn't.
Take your laptop, say a MacBook Pro Retina. Assume your running bog standard apps, lowering the resolution of the screen doesn't give you extra battery life unless you are stressing the CPU and moreover the GPU as it is it that is more consuming power wise. If you merely reduce resolution and do the same basic tasks (email, word processing) the difference is negligible battery life wise, because despite outputting a lower resolution rendered you are still illuminating and powering a higher res display. The amount of power it takes to alone to illuminate that HiRes screen is the same even if you are running it at a lower resolution.
The same applies to a smartphone.
If you were playing hours of Pokemon Go for example, then fair enough there would be extra battery life if you lowered resolution.
But on the standard apps like browser, dialer, calendar etc.. there would little benefit. Lowering brightness would give more tangible benefit in that instance.
It's why previously Samsung opted to just bake it into Game Centre as it is there that it has true usefulness.
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You are allowed to customize with Android. Below is Firefox with a add-on (userstyles.org) that lets you use custom stylesheets.
Have you noticed a difference in battery life/SOT when using dark theme? I see about 8 hours SOT with dark theme vs 7 hours for white theme on one of my AMOLED devices.
Samsung turns off pixels rather than just changing the resolution though...kinda like how pixel off worked on earlier omled screens.
Pixels are off, less power used, less brightness.
Do you have a link to more info on that ? Everything I've read hasn't mentioned it turning off pixels. If true then that would indeed make a difference, however all i have read so far just talk about downscaling resolution.
Yeah, I havent seen anything that shows simply lowering the resolution would either save on battery or increases performance by any significance, most that I have seen the results are very similar between 720p mode and 1440p.
Also, wouldn't turning off the right pixels to down scale the 1440p screen to 720p result in both a larger computational load and a weird screen door effect?
When i tested the lower resolution it seems more like simple downscaling with performance being the same, so ive kept my power savings off.
I would have thought there would be some interpolation if it turned off pixels ...
The iPhone 7 feels horrible with all the vibrations, also if I cover the bottom speaker the top,speaker sounds horrible, pretty tinny and thin sounding, the bottom speaker is a lot better. It just feels cheap.
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Sure.....were you doubting I have both phones?
Oh now it's your turn....did you ever have a Note 7? Proof? do you even have a IP7? Proof?
The size difference is nuts, the bigger screen device is noticeably shorter then the smaller screen device....
I usually use chrome cause it is less laggy vs Firefox, and chrome doesn't let me use custom user stylesheets.
Yeah, but there would be a more pronounced screen door effect if it did turn off pixels, which I don't see. This is the closest I could with my S7 to take a picture, first shot is QHD mode and the second is 720p.
BTW, I messed up my home screen doing that. I use Google now and in 1440p mode the home grid is 5 across and 5 down, but in 720p mode it's only 4x4, so I lost my bottom row of folders, folders on the far right, and all widgets that went across the screen, on all my home screens. So if anyone is thinking of doing that, you've been warned.
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Some more thoughts on the lag situation...
We're seeing more accurate benchmarks with Geekbench 4 due to the de-emphasis of memory bandwidth, and that basically tells the whole story.
The SD820 will do 1700 single core when the Geekbench app doesnt get stuck on one of the small cores. The 1400 average on the site must include a lot of failed runs like the two I did that only returned 300 (and didn't even warm up the phone).
That score puts SD820 in A8 territory on single core, and it shouldn't be surprising that some real-time tasks stutter as a result. The chip can do 4000 multicore, which is more competitive, but a lot of immediate feedback code is still likely to be single-threaded.
Samsung is doing some significant software level power management to save battery, which isn't helping either. But it's basically the same story we've been seeing on Android forever: poor single core makes devices feel sluggish.
Still really like this phone, but I wish I could put an Apple SOC in it.
We're seeing more accurate benchmarks with Geekbench 4 due to the de-emphasis of memory bandwidth, and that basically tells the whole story.
The SD820 will do 1700 single core when the Geekbench app doesnt get stuck on one of the small cores. The 1400 average on the site must include a lot of failed runs like the two I did that only returned 300 (and didn't even warm up the phone).
That score puts SD820 in A8 territory on single core, and it shouldn't be surprising that some real-time tasks stutter as a result. The chip can do 4000 multicore, which is more competitive, but a lot of immediate feedback code is still likely to be single-threaded.
Samsung is doing some significant software level power management to save battery, which isn't helping either. But it's basically the same story we've been seeing on Android forever: poor single core makes devices feel sluggish.
Still really like this phone, but I wish I could put an Apple SOC in it.
No I don't. I'm just assuming it would work the same as Pixel off, I'll have a look later (I'm at work lol)
If it does just scale down then the savings wouldn't be that great (compared to actually turning the pixels off) but something is better than nothing and I can still install Pixel off if I need to but seeing as I get home with 60-80 percent, on no power savings, I don't think I'll need to.
After a quick read, it seems you are correct and I'm wrong, just the resolution is altered. Sorry.
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No bother. Yeah it's a shame as your idea would save more battery.
I wonder why they moved it out of game center on the note 7 as a lot of folks on fora are making the assumption that it would save them lots of battery in 'everything'. Is game center actually on the note 7? If not, it would explain moving it to the standard power saving settings category.
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Yeah I meant game launcher. (Centre is IOS doh!). So they essentially moved the settings from game tools/launcher to power saving, battery category in general settings.
You seem to exaggerate a lot.
Looks pretty much the same to me. With the iPhone 7 plus being a hair taller.
Doesn't really seem to be that big of a difference in display area either. Compared to to the iPhone 7+.
the note 7 extra extra .3mm seems to translate into the status bar at the top. Not much else.
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