Phones Galaxy Note 7

[Tsepz]

I'm fine with having some bugs on a new phone as long as they get fixed. What always worries me is things like overheating or terrible battery life that just can't be fixed. My last experience with the first one was with the Sony Z5 Compact because the touchscreen felt just a little bit hot at all times, enough to feel uncomfortable. With my Oneplus One I get none of that and I hope the same is true with the Note 7. I understand that the phone will get hot when you initially restore from a backup but that is fine as it is not the norm.

Manufacturers insisting on the metal backs is not necessarily a good idea. While it surely helps dissipate heat, I'd rather not feel the heat from the phone when I use it.

Your Z5 Compact was the victim of the Snapdragon 810 which had major heat issues, many Samsung avoided it, the never was a S810 based Samsung and LG went with the 808, like Samsung, the never was a S810 based LG. Very unfortunate situation for Qualcomm there.

I think with these newer IP67/68 certified devices, all that heavy sealing also contributes to more heat being trapped, and also what doesn't help is these devices getting slimmer meaning components getting closer to each other and less room inside the devices.

I think Polycarbonate was a great material to stick to for smartphones, it handled heat far better and it was much better at absorbing the force of a bad drop. All this metal and glass is just not working.

 

[Fernandez21]

Your Z5 Compact was the victim of the Snapdragon 810 which had major heat issues, many Samsung avoided it, the never was a S810 based Samsung and LG went with the 808, like Samsung, the never was a S810 based LG. Very unfortunate situation for Qualcomm there.

I think with these newer IP67/68 certified devices, all that heavy sealing also contributes to more heat being trapped, and also what doesn't help is these devices getting slimmer meaning components getting closer to each other and less room inside the devices.

I think Polycarbonate was a great material to stick to for smartphones, it handled heat far better and it was much better at absorbing the force of a bad drop. All this metal and glass is just not working.

Metal actually helps with the heat, as it's transferred from the phone components to the phone body, but does feel warmer in hand. If they do polycarbonate, in hand it will feel cooler, but the components inside will still heat up and youll see more throttling.

I prefer metal the most, then it's a toss up between glass and plastic for the back, glass feels better but I'm not worried about plastic breaking. The other big plus for plastic when done correctly is that it's the same color the while whole way through, so it hides scratches very well.

 

[spinedoc77]

I'm not too worried, there is always the warranty. That's why I just paid full price for it at Verizon. Swappa has them for $150 or more discount, but I didn't want to deal with the hassle of not having bought from an official source.

I'm honestly not seeing any phone that even comes close to the Note 7, NONE. No one is pushing the envelope with squeezing in a large screen in a small body, reducing bezel size, and certainly no one has the cojones to put in a stylus/digitizer. If I'm going to spend my hard earned money it ain't going to be a "me too" phone like the Pixel. So I'll squelch the sickness of wanting a new phone every month until the ip8/Note 8, or until someone releases a foldable phone.

 

[Tsepz]

Metal actually helps with the heat, as it's transferred from the phone components to the phone body, but does feel warmer in hand. If they do polycarbonate, in hand it will feel cooler, but the components inside will still heat up and youll see more throttling.

I prefer metal the most, then it's a toss up between glass and plastic for the back, glass feels better but I'm not worried about plastic breaking. The other big plus for plastic when done correctly is that it's the same color the while whole way through, so it hides scratches very well.

Thank you for clearing that up make sense as even the heat shields are metal.

A mix of metal frame and polycarbonate back would be great, i.e. how Note 4 is built.

I'm not too worried, there is always the warranty. That's why I just paid full price for it at Verizon. Swappa has them for $150 or more discount, but I didn't want to deal with the hassle of not having bought from an official source.

I'm honestly not seeing any phone that even comes close to the Note 7, NONE. No one is pushing the envelope with squeezing in a large screen in a small body, reducing bezel size, and certainly no one has the cojones to put in a stylus/digitizer. If I'm going to spend my hard earned money it ain't going to be a "me too" phone like the Pixel. So I'll squelch the sickness of wanting a new phone every month until the ip8/Note 8, or until someone releases a foldable phone.

Absolutely agree. EVERY other phone OEM (Apple, LG, HTC etc....) is playing it safe and bringing things Samsung already had, or removing them.
The Note 7 is by far the most complete smartphone/mobile computer on the market.

The Note series has always reminded me of Nokia's Eseries, but from the Note 3 they made what is ultimately a mix of Nseries and Eseries, something all of us 'Heavy Users' wanted back then, the only true mix of Multimedia and Enterprise mobile device. I am looking at the V20, but can't help but think how much I will miss having the best large Display on a mobile device, the gorgeous Samsung SuperAMOLED Display, or the SPen Suit which no other device has even come close to matching.

Even leaving my 2yearold Note 4 for a newer non-Samsung Note smartphone will be a downgrade as I lose SPen Suit, which I use a lot, especially Smart Select and Screen Write.

 

[Sevanw]

I'm honestly not seeing any phone that even comes close to the Note 7, NONE. No one is pushing the envelope with squeezing in a large screen in a small body, reducing bezel size, and certainly no one has the cojones to put in a stylus/digitizer. If I'm going to spend my hard earned money it ain't going to be a "me too" phone like the Pixel. So I'll squelch the sickness of wanting a new phone every month until the ip8/Note 8, or until someone releases a foldable phone.

You have no idea how much I feel the Note 7 is just so far ahead of ANYTHING in 2016 so far. And I'm more than confident to say nothing will change for the rest of the year. Holding the Note 7, just looking at the design and that gorgeous display, I just don't see how anyone isn't drop jawed impressed. In fact, it's the first time I've recommended a phone to family and friends without even asking what theyre looking for in their use. I just tell them get it and you'll be happy you did. I know this will be my last device before a real breakthrough in form factors happens. ie Foldable Displays

 

[spinedoc77]

or the SPen Suit which no other device has even come close to matching.

No one else has even tried, the Note series is the ONLY phone out there with a stylus/digitizer, other than an extremely weak effort LG made a couple of years ago which I'm not even sure was released in the US. For being the only one out there with this feature Samsung still improves this remarkable hardware and software every single year.

 

[Fernandez21]

Thank you for clearing that up make sense as even the heat shields are metal.

A mix of metal frame and polycarbonate back would be great, i.e. how Note 4 is built.

Absolutely agree. EVERY other phone OEM (Apple, LG, HTC etc....) is playing it safe and bringing things Samsung already had, or removing them.
The Note 7 is by far the most complete smartphone/mobile computer on the market.

The Note series has always reminded me of Nokia's Eseries, but from the Note 3 they made what is ultimately a mix of Nseries and Eseries, something all of us 'Heavy Users' wanted back then, the only true mix of Multimedia and Enterprise mobile device. I am looking at the V20, but can't help but think how much I will miss having the best large Display on a mobile device, the gorgeous Samsung SuperAMOLED Display, or the SPen Suit which no other device has even come close to matching.

Even leaving my 2yearold Note 4 for a newer non-Samsung Note smartphone will be a downgrade as I lose SPen Suit, which I use a lot, especially Smart Select and Screen Write.

Yeah, I still love the design of the Note 4, one of my favorite devices and I'm bummed I gave it away. I'm also really impressed with how the v20 handles the removable back made of metal, I hope Samsung does something like that for next year's model.

 

[5105973]

I'm fine with having some bugs on a new phone as long as they get fixed. What always worries me is things like overheating or terrible battery life that just can't be fixed. My last experience with the first one was with the Sony Z5 Compact because the touchscreen felt just a little bit hot at all times, enough to feel uncomfortable. With my Oneplus One I get none of that and I hope the same is true with the Note 7. I understand that the phone will get hot when you initially restore from a backup but that is fine as it is not the norm.

Manufacturers insisting on the metal backs is not necessarily a good idea. While it surely helps dissipate heat, I'd rather not feel the heat from the phone when I use it.

My original Note 7 ran cool with one exception and that was when I tried to play Neko Atsume on it. That game is a very simple visiting game with no graphics demands to speak of. But the moment I loaded it the Note 7 got increasingly hot in my hand to the point it was painful and scary so I shut the game down and tried again and it heated up again so I turned it off and uninstalled it. My replacement Note 7 got warm during setup and slightly warm during fast charging. So I put it to regular charging which is still very fast! I've not yet had my replacement Note 7 run hot and I am playing games and recording video on it and surfing the web and of course making phone calls and texting.

I think there was something wrong with my Galaxy S7 loaner because it often randomly ran hot enough to hurt my skin. I will never know for certain but I also suspect it turned some things on randomly and one time turned the flashlight on in my pocket. It definitely turned the camera on because I have lots of pics and vids taken from inside my pocket somehow and that has NEVER happened to be before in all my years of pocketing smart phones. Anyway whether I did it myself or the phone did it, the LED flashlight was somehow on in my pocket and caused the entire phone to heat up around the camera to the point it burned my leg through my jeans. Not enough to do more than leave a sore pink mark on my leg, thankfully. It felt like a jellyfish sting.

Most people I know who have an S7 don't have the problems I had with mine. Based on that experience if I ever again get a phone that runs hot to the touch I'm returning it and if the carrier or manufacturer tries to give me any trouble I will go full barrel obnoxious on them, which is behavior I'm not normally into but I've had it up to here with products costing over $700 trying to set things on fire.

My husband had a S7 Edge loaner from AT&T that ran well once he downloaded an app that tamed processes from running in the background undetected by the user. Until then he had a lot of battery drain.

He liked the S7 Edge a lot and misses it, but prefers the Note 7. He retired his IPhone 6sPlus to emergency backup status. He has shelved any plans to get an IPhone 7 Plus due to all the problem reports accumulating on it and he has come to prefer Android for what he's currently doing. He also bought a car that happened to have a wireless charging pad that works beautifully with the Note 7. Lol, don't worry we are heavily insured! We also live down the street from a fire station, which is noisy but very reassuring.

I haven't retired anything. I am a crazy lady. I use my SE and my 6S Plus and my Note 7 on a regular basis just about every day. I do not intend to keep the 6S Plus indefinitely though. I am considering the LG V20 and the IPhone 7 as trade ups on AT&T Next. My SE is too fabulous to part with so it will remain my daily driver. Whatever I trade the 6S Plus in for will not actually have a Sim in it. I will be running it over wireless at home. That's what I do with my 6S Plus.

If the reviews and word of mouth by owners are good, I will most likely end up with the LG V20 because I really want to play with its video recording and audio features. But I know nothing of LG quality or customer service yet so I am going to research that.

Three smart phones is a bit much for one person but I decided it will be my hobby for the next few months. A good buddy of mine is big into drones and other RC flying machines and was trying to persuade me into getting my first large quadcopter. But I'm still crashing my tiny one all the time so...lol...I don't think it's going to work out so well.

 

[Fernandez21]

You have no idea how much I feel the Note 7 is just so far ahead of ANYTHING in 2016 so far. And I'm more than confident to say nothing will change for the rest of the year. Holding the Note 7, just looking at the design and that gorgeous display, I just don't see how anyone isn't drop jawed impressed. In fact, it's the first time I've recommended a phone to family and friends without even asking what theyre looking for in their use. I just tell them get it and you'll be happy you did. I know this will be my last device before a real breakthrough in form factors happens. ie Foldable Displays

Hardware wise I mostly agree with you. The screen is just incredible, the design (with the screen on) is the best out and they were able to pack so much in a relatively small body (micro sd, wireless charging, 3500mah battery, spen, waterproofing, larger screen AND a headphone jack, in a body smaller than the 7 Plus).

I really wish Qualcomm was more competitive with Apple, the A10 looks like a beast. Samsung needs to just start using their Exynos chips worldwide, they're the closest to getting that same performance.

 

[scott craft]

I am hoping The Note 7 and S7 edge have some buy one get one free sales in November and December. I'd definitely get one for me and my wife.

 

[spinedoc77]

Hardware wise I mostly agree with you. The screen is just incredible, the design (with the screen on) is the best out and they were able to pack so much in a relatively small body (micro sd, wireless charging, 3500mah battery, spen, waterproofing, larger screen AND a headphone jack, in a body smaller than the 7 Plus).

I really wish Qualcomm was more competitive with Apple, the A10 looks like a beast. Samsung needs to just start using their Exynos chips worldwide, they're the closest to getting that same performance.

Yeah the A10 was very nice, Samsung still is lagging (pun intended) in this regard. But it seems this is more of an issue with touchwiz as other SD phones seem to not have these issues. With that said my Note 7 has been running extremely well with no hint of lag yet. Raw power isn't everything, and the iPhone can have all the power in the world but can't come anywhere close to replicating the experience the Note 7 gives in VR, for example.

 

[5105973]

Well poop. I wandered over to Android Central to read the LG section. Apparently across more than one of their models, including their present flagship V10, there is the risk of a bootloop problem. So far the best remedy is to stick your phone in the fridge. I'm drastically simplifying the issue to relay it here,but that seems to be what it comes down to and it also seems LG customer service is slow and they are not exactly busting their buns to address this issue. So...I will continue to check them out.

I'm also monitoring the situation with all the many and various iPhone 7 problems and complaints. The iPhone 7 form factor and water resistance would make it ideal for me and my landscaping work next summer. I get a bit nervous carrying my SE outside doing my fall yard work. I have done quite a bit of work this week in overcast and drizzle. I stuck my SE in a ziplock which is inconvenient.

I am not sure what to make of iOS 10, itself. For one thing, my SE and 6S Plus batteries seem to be draining faster since the last update. I know they turn themselves on in my purse with raise to wake because I peek in there and see them on! I could turn that feature off and eventually will--but I kind of like the feature so I'm seeing if I can live with the impact it may be having on my battery life. There are other changes and differences I do not like. I think I shall be able to turn most of them off and make iOS 10 look more like iOS 9 but it seems a shame I even feel I need to do that, especially when my quick adaptation to my Note 7 demonstrates that it's not an issue of me being unable to adapt to change. I just don't care for some of the changes that have been introduced. At least I'm not experiencing any catastrophic glitches or crashes.

Meanwhile Note 7 is giving me a whole new world of functionality that I really appreciate. I'm honestly a bit hesitant to sing its praises on this forum, even here in this thread because when I do go into the rest of the forum and have something critical to say or ask about the IPhone, I do worry my observations will get taken badly like I am a defector to another country or political party or a religious apostate or something equally overblown and untrue. And it is probably not good timing to say anything positive about the Note 7 on an Apple forum when Samsung just had a major recall "scandal" and IPhone 7/7Plus is itself debuting with an unfortunate list of problems out of the starting gate that may get Apple enthusiasts defensive.

 

[kasakka]

I'm honestly a bit hesitant to sing its praises on this forum, even here in this thread because when I do go into the rest of the forum and have something critical to say or ask about the IPhone, I do worry my observations will get taken badly like I am a defector to another country or political party or a religious apostate or something equally overblown and untrue.

Don't be. Generally the rapid fanboy types on any side are people who are better left ignored. There are plenty of reasons to like one brand, OS or device over another but none are without fault. Either they are good enough for your preferences or they're not.

I've been using several non-waterproof phones over the years and have gotten pretty wet in a rain with them in my pocket many times or forgot them on a bathroom shelf when taking a shower and they still ran without problems or any moisture detectors firing. As long as you don't do any swimming with them you should be fine with your SE.

That said it is nice to have that extra assurance of water resistant phones. I'm looking to get a Note 7 when its sales resume here in Finland. I only had a brief chance to try one before the recall and liked it even if I did not quite see it as that big an upgrade over my Oneplus One. That said, I'm now considering it even though it is expensive but considering how much I use my smartphone during the day I might as well splurge.

I was initially hoping to hold out until Samsung got those foldable smartphones on the market but I doubt it will happen next year as rumored or at least the first gen products will most likely have some issues as they tend to do for any manufacturer.

 

[mi7chy]

Anyone a fan of the vlogger Casey Neistat? He recently switched to Note 7. Hoping to see vlogs produced with it to complement the monster Canon 5D Mk IV that he boards around with.

 

[Sevanw]

Some more follow up to stories out of China.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chin...discrimination-over-the-Galaxy-Note-7_id86052

 

[MRU]

Some more follow up to stories out of China.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chin...discrimination-over-the-Galaxy-Note-7_id86052

"While it is true that two Samsung Galaxy Note 7 units caught on fire in China, the battery was not the issue according to Samsung and ATL".

Regardless of how CCTV wrongly blasted Samsung for not recalling devices there, that is a completely different issue to the insinuation you and others were perpetuating which was that the device catching fire in China was fake because China and the Chinese are prone to fraud.

The article you posted which you think furthers that xenophobic slant, actually states that those two reported devices did indeed catch fire. Even if the battery wasn't the root cause in those fires and that the Chinese CCTV channel were fool hardy to insist in a recall, it still means those users did have devices which caught fire and therefore were not 'fake' as you stated.

The issue myself and others such as @micheal goff had in that thread was not Samsung or the battery recall, it was the insinuation that all Chinese people were fraudsters and the xenophobia and racism that demonstrated.

It was in the end that pervasive xenophobia evidenced in your own and others posts there, that closed the thread down.

Don't take this thread down the same road, more blind racism and xenophobic proclamations that a moderator is forced to shut it down.

 

[Sevanw]

"While it is true that two Samsung Galaxy Note 7 units caught on fire in China, the battery was not the issue according to Samsung and ATL".

Regardless of how CCTV wrongly blasted Samsung for not recalling devices there, that is a completely different issue to the insinuation you and others were perpetuating which was that the device catching fire in China was fake because China and the Chinese are prone to fraud.

The article you posted which you think furthers that xenophobic slant, actually states that those two reported devices did indeed catch fire. Even if the battery wasn't the root cause in those fires and that the Chinese CCTV channel were fool hardy to insist in a recall, it still means those users did have devices which caught fire and therefore were not 'fake' as you stated.

The issue myself and others such as @micheal goff had in that thread was not Samsung or the battery recall, it was the insinuation that all Chinese people were fraudsters and the xenophobia and racism that demonstrated.

It was in the end that pervasive xenophobia evidenced in your own and others posts there, that closed the thread down.

Don't take this thread down the same road, more blind racism and xenophobic proclamations that a moderator is forced to shut it down.

Watch your words sir. Be very careful with your accusations. Don't even go there. I've been asking people to stop derailing this thread pages and pages back. So please save the cautionary comments to people that post articles that make sensational claims of explosions that have absolutely no merit. This post has nothing to do with the back and forth others were having in the other thread. I did not participate in that back and forth. Please don't tie my post with that garbage. This is nothing but a follow up article with no personal opinion attached. Again, careful with your words.

 

[MRU]

Watch your words sir. Be very careful with your accusations. Don't even go there. I've been asking people to stop derailing this thread pages and pages back. So please save the cautionary comments to people that post articles that make sensational claims of explosions that have absolutely no merit. This post has nothing to do with the back and forth others were having in the other thread. I did not participate in that back and forth. Please don't tie my post with that garbage. This is nothing but a follow up article with no personal opinion attached. Again, careful with your words.

I apologise if your posts were not of that nature or intended in that nature. Reading back that through the pages of garbage in that thread, your posts in that thread were to consistently discredit the individual because they did not want Samsung to take their device away. Not because they were Chinese, that was others proclamations. For labelling you amongst them I apologise.

However for the sake of peace, sanity and thread existence, can we agree to restrict anything that might bring about more of the same garbage at bay.

 

[Fernandez21]

Some more follow up to stories out of China.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chin...discrimination-over-the-Galaxy-Note-7_id86052

I dont know what your obsession is with trying to discredit all reports of the Note catching fire. ALL mobile devices with a lithium battery can explode.

Moto X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/moto-x-exploded-t2921530

IPhone
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ya...ocket-131642093.html?client=ms-android-att-us

One plus One
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gree...ing-battery.amp.html?client=ms-android-att-us

HTC
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/samsung/htc-one-x/21053/htc-one-x-explodes-while-charging

Sony
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...one-explodes-man-s-melted-bedroom-carpet.html

Nokia had to do a recall of their own
http://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-recalls-batteries-at-risk-to-explode/

They can be serious, it killed this man.
https://www.cnet.com/news/exploding-cell-phone-kills-store-employee/

And yes, even the recalled replacement Notes can catch fire.

The reason Samsung is getting all the attention now is because they actually sold a phone with faulty batteries and had to recall it, so fair or not theyre now viewed as the one with exploding phones. But it is a disservice to try to convince people that they will never explode. Instead people need to be educated on how to properly charge and maintain they're devices, and even then with everything done right they could still catch fire.

Maybe we should just make an "exploding phone" thread and everyone can post those stories there? As far as im concerned, this "story" is done, theyre replacing the phones now (mines already been replaced) and the safety hazard isn't greater than any other other phone.

 

[spriter]

Well I see this is back on sale. At least on some UK sites it's showing in stock again.

Wonder if there'll be some deals to regain traction now the iPhone has launched (and to a lesser extent other new handsets... Then again how many know of the Pixel? And the V20 seems canned here).

 

[MRU]

Well I see this is back on sale. At least on some UK sites it's showing in stock again.

Wonder if there'll be some deals to regain traction now the iPhone has launched (and to a lesser extent other new handsets... Then again how many know of the Pixel? And the V20 seems canned here).

What sites ?

I can't find it

 

[spinedoc77]

I dont know what your obsession is with trying to discredit all reports of the Note catching fire. ALL mobile devices with a lithium battery can explode.

Moto X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/moto-x-exploded-t2921530

IPhone
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ya...ocket-131642093.html?client=ms-android-att-us

One plus One
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gree...ing-battery.amp.html?client=ms-android-att-us

HTC
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/samsung/htc-one-x/21053/htc-one-x-explodes-while-charging

Sony
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...one-explodes-man-s-melted-bedroom-carpet.html

Nokia had to do a recall of their own
http://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-recalls-batteries-at-risk-to-explode/

They can be serious, it killed this man.
https://www.cnet.com/news/exploding-cell-phone-kills-store-employee/

And yes, even the recalled replacement Notes can catch fire.

The reason Samsung is getting all the attention now is because they actually sold a phone with faulty batteries and had to recall it, so fair or not theyre now viewed as the one with exploding phones. But it is a disservice to try to convince people that they will never explode. Instead people need to be educated on how to properly charge and maintain they're devices, and even then with everything done right they could still catch fire.

Maybe we should just make an "exploding phone" thread and everyone can post those stories there? As far as im concerned, this "story" is done, theyre replacing the phones now (mines already been replaced) and the safety hazard isn't greater than any other other phone.

We already have several exploding phones threads, people should just stick to them. Personally I still fail to see what these guys are even arguing about, I doubt they even know themselves.

 

[Sevanw]

I dont know what your obsession is with trying to discredit all reports of the Note catching fire. ALL mobile devices with a lithium battery can explode.

Moto X
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/moto-x-exploded-t2921530

IPhone
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ya...ocket-131642093.html?client=ms-android-att-us

One plus One
https://www.google.com/amp/www.gree...ing-battery.amp.html?client=ms-android-att-us

HTC
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/samsung/htc-one-x/21053/htc-one-x-explodes-while-charging

Sony
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...one-explodes-man-s-melted-bedroom-carpet.html

Nokia had to do a recall of their own
http://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-recalls-batteries-at-risk-to-explode/

They can be serious, it killed this man.
https://www.cnet.com/news/exploding-cell-phone-kills-store-employee/

And yes, even the recalled replacement Notes can catch fire.

The reason Samsung is getting all the attention now is because they actually sold a phone with faulty batteries and had to recall it, so fair or not theyre now viewed as the one with exploding phones. But it is a disservice to try to convince people that they will never explode. Instead people need to be educated on how to properly charge and maintain they're devices, and even then with everything done right they could still catch fire.

Maybe we should just make an "exploding phone" thread and everyone can post those stories there? As far as im concerned, this "story" is done, theyre replacing the phones now (mines already been replaced) and the safety hazard isn't greater than any other other phone.

I have not flat out discredited anyone's claim. In fact I've been on the side that people should replace their phones. And I've been vocal about it. Only thing I questioned was the non stop posting of articles of unconfirmed exposions like they were fact. And then no follow up when those cases were actually investigated. So basically only giving half the story. Also, Never once did I say there is no issue. Where did you read I said such a thing?

One thing we can all agree on is, discussing this issue is over and done.

 

[spriter]

What sites ?

I can't find it

Ahhhh... Sorry. When I searched EE it was 'in stock' but clicking through shows 3 weeks dispatch/delivery.

I think stores will get it sooner and may start selling some of the exchange programme stock in the next week or two if they don't get swapped out.

Now the iP7 is out and the Pixel seems toppy (with an unknown camera to boot),I could be tempted if i could actually get hands on a real unit instead of a plastic dummy.

 

[MRU]

Ahhhh... Sorry. When I searched EE it was 'in stock' but clicking through shows 3 weeks dispatch/delivery.

I think stores will get it sooner and may start selling some of the exchange programme stock in the next week or two if they don't get swapped out.

Now the iP7 is out and the Pixel seems toppy (with an unknown camera to boot),I could be tempted if i could actually get hands on a real unit instead of a plastic dummy.

Yeah I'll never understand why some of the carriers here use plastic dummy handsets on display stands. Then put them on security wires just to add insult to injury.

As you say the V20 likely won't be launched officially here either and pixel isn't doing much for me either ...