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Wow I feel so special that everyone is so concerned for my well being. Although I did respond a few pages back. With that being said, I'm not so blindly loyal to to say I will still use my Note 7. But I'm also not quick to spread fud. I've always said, I'll wait till things are official. Which they now are. Too bad others can't do the same when it comes to another manufacturer.
 
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Radon87000

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Do people really want plastic Polycarbonate backs on phones again when designs have achieved such nice aesthetics in recent years? I can't imagine many people carrying spare batteries around in this day and age.
Excellent design and removable batteries arent mutually exclusive.The LG V20 is a good looking device yet manages to keep a removable battery.It doesnt look any worse than the iPhone 7 plus.Samsung would have saved a ton of PR and costs if only the Note 7 had an removable battery

On another note,with an estimated impact of much more than $7,000,000,000 when their 2015 profit itself was 23B,its a definite hit on Samsung's finances.I really hope they recover and pull out all the straws for the S8 and go over it with a fine tooth comb for the amount of scrutiny its gonna get.They do make some outstanding hardware
 

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Wow I feel so special that everyone is so concerned for my well being. Although I did respond a few pages back. With that being said, I'm not so blindly loyal to to say I will still use my Note 7. But I'm also not quick to spread fud. I've always said, I'll wait till things are official. Which they now are. Too bad others can't do the same when it comes to another manufacturer.
What's official from another manufacturer that people should follow your example on?
 

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Excellent design and removable batteries arent mutually exclusive.The LG V20 is a good looking device yet manages to keep a removable battery.It doesnt look any worse than the iPhone 7 plus.Samsung would have saved a ton of PR and costs if only the Note 7 had an removable battery

On another note,with an estimated impact of much more than $7,000,000,000 when their 2015 profit itself was 23B,its a definite hit on Samsung's finances.I really hope they recover and pull out all the straws for the S8 and go over it with a fine tooth comb for the amount of scrutiny its gonna get.They do make some outstanding hardware

I think the iPhone 7 is much sexier then the V20. The V20 is a good phone, but it does not when that in beauty. I will take the iPhone and S7 everyday.

Funny thing is, we are talking about how well made Samsung phones are. This was not the case 2 or so years ago. We were all talking about how cheap the plastic was.
 

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What's official from another manufacturer that people should follow your example on?

My point is, consumers should never have to go way of class action to resolve an issue with their hardware. The manufacturer should come clean and do what's right. Samsung called it quits and I get my money back. It sucks, they f'd up, but I get my money back. Can't imagine having defective hardware and the manufacturer not taking accountability. Meanwhile, I'm left with a class action, and a device that doesn't work and I'm out $900+ just like that. Know what I mean?
 

tbayrgs

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Yeah, it's such a shame as it was an incredible phone. I'm very disappointed that it seems the cause was Samsung rushing out to beat the iPhone to market. Because after it was announced, I had been wishing Samsung would've waited until October (now) to release. Remember, up until the Note 5 October had been it release frame, then last year it came out late august and early august this year. Had they just been patient with it, we could've had a non exploding phone with nougat and the sd821.

Yeah, I don't understand the rush. The S7/edge had killed it, and everyone was really liking them. Everyone said the Note 7 was going to crush it. What did beating Apple to market gain them? It was never going to over shadow the iPhone, but if they had waited, then people would be talking about how great it was, and it could have stood on a stage by itself after the iPhone buzz was over. Also we would still have a Note 7 now.

Maybe it wasn't just to avoid the iPhone release but also the Pixel---I'm sure Google shared info with Samsung about this device, at least their plans to 'officially' produce their own line of phones. Yes, the Pixel is still a small fish in a big pond, but I wouldn't want to have to battle for page space with both Apple and Google. Just a thought.
 
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sc4rf4c3

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I wonder if the price of the Note 7 would go down. I might pick one up for a good price even if I know that it's a grenade without a pin. :D
 

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Maybe it wasn't just to avoid the iPhone release but also the Pixel---I'm sure Google shared info with Samsung about this device, at least their plans to 'officially' produce their own line of phones. Yes, the Pixel is still a small fish in a big pond, but I wouldn't want to have to battle for page space with both Apple and Google. Just a thought.

Totally agree. The Pixel has been getting all kinds of talk. I say they would have gone another direction if they could do it again.
 

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Maybe it wasn't just to avoid the iPhone release but also the Pixel---I'm sure Google shared info with Samsung about this device, at least their plans to 'officially' produce their own line of phones. Yes, the Pixel is still a small fish in a big pond, but I wouldn't want to have to battle for page space with both Apple and Google. Just a thought.

I dunno, what page space has the iPhone been getting since a week after release last month? And the Pixel/Google combo would be the one having to compete with Samsung for page space as they are the big fish here. Samsung could've held off and made some announcement with release this month and we'd be talking about how much more feature complete the Note was, how it was still able to keep the headphone jack and be water proof, how this was a next get design while the iPhone was the same old design, and how those still waiting for an iPhone should maybe pick up a note instead.

Instead we are talking about which other phone to get while others have completely written off getting a Samsung phone. And really, what advantage was there in release before the iPhone? If they released afterwards, those disappointed in the same design, disappointed in the removal of the headphone, and those disappointed in availability would have taken notice with the Notes announcement. Instead, people lauded it was a great design, but other then those already in the Samsung camp, most just waited until after the iPhone announcement anyway and by then the hype machine was in full effect.
 
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If, as the hyperbolic media would have you believe, they have killed if for good the Note 7, then just why do they state on their official statement and press release website they have stopped whilst they investigate further:

https://news.samsung.com/global/category/press-resources/issuesfacts/statements

And just where exactly have Samsung claimed 'we have killed off the Note 7 permanently' when they have only stated to investors they have 'stopped production'.

They need to state it themselves for it to be true I think and so far they have not.
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Wow I feel so special that everyone is so concerned for my well being. Although I did respond a few pages back. With that being said, I'm not so blindly loyal to to say I will still use my Note 7. But I'm also not quick to spread fud. I've always said, I'll wait till things are official. Which they now are. Too bad others can't do the same when it comes to another manufacturer.

It isn't official, no one from.Samsung has been interviewed about it? All I've seen the media report on is a statement they made.to investors, and they did NOT state they have permanently stopped production in the quotes I've seen so far.
 

mi7chy

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Here's Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam's take on Note 7 impact.

So far, he's seen that most Android operating system customers are very loyal to it, and so Samsung's other phone, the Galaxy S7, and Google's Pixel, are both selling. Apple has also seen a small boost, he said, but people "aren't flocking away from Samsung."
 

MRU

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And just where exactly have Samsung claimed 'we have killed off the Note 7 permanently' when they have only stated to investors they have 'stopped production'.

They need to state it themselves for it to be true I think and so far they have not.
[doublepost=1476210932][/doublepost]

It isn't official, no one from.Samsung has been interviewed about it? All I've seen the media report on is a statement they made.to investors, and they did NOT state they have permanently stopped production in the quotes I've seen so far.


Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorr...ially-cancels-the-galaxy-note-7/#556975005c7f


As I write this, Samsung’s official press office replied to my request for a quote with the following:

“We can confirm the report that Samsung has permanently discontinued the production of Galaxy Note7.”

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If that's the line of the Official press office, I think you can call that Official...
 

apolloa

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Here's Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam's take on Note 7 impact.

Hardly surprising, in the UK and maybe Europe they only sold about 44000 pre orders and not one has had a fault reported.
One guy was interviewed on the radio and he stated he has had ZERO issues with his and it hasn't damaged his opinion of Samsung one bit or will it stop him buying Samsung.
 
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bmac4

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If, as the hyperbolic media would have you believe, they have killed if for good the Note 7, then just why do they state on their official statement and press release website they have stopped whilst they investigate further:

https://news.samsung.com/global/category/press-resources/issuesfacts/statements

And just where exactly have Samsung claimed 'we have killed off the Note 7 permanently' when they have only stated to investors they have 'stopped production'.

They need to state it themselves for it to be true I think and so far they have not.
[doublepost=1476210932][/doublepost]

It isn't official, no one from.Samsung has been interviewed about it? All I've seen the media report on is a statement they made.to investors, and they did NOT state they have permanently stopped production in the quotes I've seen so far.

It's all but over the Note 7. What are they going to do completely redesign the phone? There is more to this issue then just a simple fix. If they had to redesign the phone, we would be talking about 2017 before the phone would released again. That is pushing on the S8. Flights won't allow people to have them on planes anymore, it would be a complete mess. Samsung is moving on even if they have not officially said so.
 

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I think this is when it finally happens...
Windows phone comes and takes Samsung's spot
 

apolloa

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Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorr...ially-cancels-the-galaxy-note-7/#556975005c7f


As I write this, Samsung’s official press office replied to my request for a quote with the following:

“We can confirm the report that Samsung has permanently discontinued the production of Galaxy Note7.”

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If that's the line of the Official press office, I think you can call that Official...

Hmmmm they have just quoted Engadget, they didnt get the statement themselves.
I think Samsung needs to make an official statement on it on its press site.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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My point is, consumers should never have to go way of class action to resolve an issue with their hardware. The manufacturer should come clean and do what's right. Samsung called it quits and I get my money back. It sucks, they f'd up, but I get my money back. Can't imagine having defective hardware and the manufacturer not taking accountability. Meanwhile, I'm left with a class action, and a device that doesn't work and I'm out $900+ just like that. Know what I mean?
I don't know what you mean as I've bought iPhones recently. I've had a few hardware failures and they've been replaced without needing to sue anybody. Apple have never had to deal with anything the size of the Note 7 debacle though.
 
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I don't know what you mean as I've bought iPhones recently. I've had a few hardware failures and they've been replaced without needing to sue anybody. Apple have never had to deal with anything the size of the Note 7 debacle though.

I think they have. They had to offer replacements for faulty batteries in the iPod Nano 1 as it was a fire risk, they've had endless yellow screen replacement programmes and they've replaced more laptops due to faulty GPUs then they probably sold new!
The only difference is they don't get mass media coverage although when they mess up iOS updates they do. Especially the alarm bug.
 

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Hmmmm they have just quoted Engadget, they didnt get the statement themselves.
I think Samsung needs to make an official statement on it on its press site.

Do you really think if ALL media sources around the world are reporting that it has been shelved for good, that Samsung would if it that was false, not have corrected them by now.

Honestly it seems like your clambering for grass straws on this one.

I know it's disappointing but it is over.


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WALL STREET JOURNAL - http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung-to-permanently-discontinue-galaxy-note-7-smartphone-1476177331

SEOUL— Samsung Electronics Co. said on Tuesday that it is discontinuing its embattled Galaxy Note 7 smartphone, pulling the plug on a product whose botched recall has brought headaches to consumers and damaged the Samsung brand.

Samsung said in a filing with South Korean regulators that it would permanently cease production and sales of the device, following a string of reported incidents in which supposedly safe replacements of the smartphone overheated and in some cases caught fire.

“Taking our customer’s safety as our highest priority, we have decided to halt sales and production of the Galaxy Note 7,” the company said.
 
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I think they have. They had to offer replacements for faulty batteries in the iPod Nano 1 as it was a fire risk, they've had endless yellow screen replacement programmes and they've replaced more laptops due to faulty GPUs then they probably sold new!
The only difference is they don't get mass media coverage although when they mess up iOS updates they do. Especially the alarm bug.

That is not really true. Apple gets some pretty heavy conversation when they screw up. Remember antenna gate, scratch gate, or bend gate. Those were things that got talked about for months. The difference is, none of them endangered people. The Note 7 has the potential to.
 
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Samsung needs to hire this guy for pr, I am sure he hasnt been working

07-minister.jpg
 

tbayrgs

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That is not really true. Apple gets some pretty heavy converse when they screw up. Remember antenna gate, scratch gate, or bend gate. Those were things that got talked about for months. The difference is, none of them endangered people. The Note 7 has the potential to.

Exactly--if this was happening to Apple the media coverage would be 100 fold greater than what the Note coverage had been.

At this point, the level of apologizing for Samsung by anyone in this thread is perplexing. :confused: Same goes for the continuing deflection to any completely unrelated Apple issues.
 
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Exactly--if this was happening to Apple the media coverage would be 100 fold greater than what the Note coverage had been.

At this point, the level of apologizing for Samsung by anyone in this thread is perplexing. :confused: Same goes for the continuing deflection to any completely unrelated Apple issues.

I think the Note 7 was one of the best phones to come out in a long time. I am just not in the market for an Android phone, so I never got it. With that said, Samsung is lucky they did not get what Apple would have gotten. Had this happened to Apple, people would have been ready to call for the end of iPhones for good. Or at least for several years. This is bad, but Samsung has a chance to redeem themselves. Let's see what they do with it.

I agree with you. People act as if this was no big deal and it was over blown. No this is a pretty big deal. What happens if that phone explodes in flight on the Southwest plan? What happens if the phone on the nightstand falls on the carpet and catches it on fire? This can't be causal passed off. It's a big deal and Samsung has to own it.
 
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