Phones Galaxy Note 7

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I have plenty to of friends and family who use various Android and iPhone and have never heard people complain. They are all able to text and send each other media. Im not doubting it is an issue but just speaking from my experience that I havent heard it be an issue from people know


Speaking for myself, if someone is a person I consider a friend or a family member I want to contact, I will find a way regardless of phone choice and I think anyone would

People still do have issues when the sender and receiver are on two differ carriers. Sometimes a multi media doesn't go through, is shown too small, cut off, or linked instead of showing within the message. iMessage and other 3rd party messaging services stay compatible.

I completely agree with your last statement though.

 

[epicrayban]

Speaking for myself, if someone is a person I consider a friend or a family member I want to contact, I will find a way regardless of phone choice and I think anyone would

100% this.

And exactly my points earlier. So many of these ecosystem things people are afraid to leave behind are actually not as difficult or impossible as people want to think. iMessage is, I think, the easiest solve. But others are easy too. Repurchasing apps, meshing with macs, app exclusivity is smaller than ever before (there are exclusive apps on Android's side, too. No one ever talks about that), even updates dont have to be a big loss.

People prefer what they prefer. I'm just here to say it's not impossible. Far from it.

 

[tbayrgs]

Seeing a touch of hippocrisy from some participants in this thread. Anyone critical of some aspect of the Note or Android is deemed to have Apple bias or 'doesn't know what they're talking about' yet any advocacy of an element of the iPhone or iOS is brushed aside as not relevant. Apple proponents are too often deemed to claim a feature doesn't matter if it's not on the iPhone---wonder why that same criticism doesn't seem to apply from the opposite direction?

 

[epicrayban]

Eh. Been using my S7 Edge last couple of days. Canceled my Note order. Same phone, and the stylus has never been a big deal to me. No need to upgrade. I'll wait to see what Nexus has up its sleeve.

It basically makes me excited about the s8.

And if the rumor is true that Samsung is ready to go full throttle and implement edge screens even on smaller devices, then I'm all the more eager to wait and see it.

Imagine a 5.2" edge screen (one improved upon from the note 7 screen whichI didn't think they could make anymore comfortable after the s7 edge) for the standard size s8. Imagine the form factor they could get that into!

 

[tbayrgs]

100% this.

And exactly my points earlier. So many of these ecosystem things people are afraid to leave behind are actually not as difficult or impossible as people want to think. iMessage is, I think, the easiest solve. But others are easy too. Repurchasing apps, meshing with macs, app exclusivity is smaller than ever before (there are exclusive apps on Android's side, too. No one ever talks about that), even updates dont have to be a big loss.

People prefer what they prefer. I'm just here to say it's not impossible. Far from it.

Switching isn't the point though. Of course iPhone users could continue to message their contacts on Android. The pertinent point that anyone who doesn't use iMessage or see the same value in it is that we find the user experience far better than the alternative on Android. For instance, you far prefer the experience of the Back softkey on Android vs. the alternative methods on iPhone. Would you still be able to navigate on the iPhone if you switched? Of course, but you wouldn't enjoy the experience as much. Thats that same situation for many of us regarding iMessage and any number of other elements of the Apple ecosystem.

 

[epicrayban]

Seeing a touch of hippocrisy from some participants in this thread. Anyone critical of some aspect of the Note or Android is deemed to have Apple bias or 'doesn't know what they're talking about' yet any advocacy of an element of the iPhone or iOS is brushed aside as not relevant. Apple proponents are too often deemed to claim a feature doesn't matter if it's not on the iPhone---wonder why that same criticism doesn't seem to apply from the opposite direction?

What features do the note 7 lack that people are claiming don't matter? Genuine question. I'm loosely following this thread.
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Switching isn't the point though. Of course iPhone users could continue to message their contacts on Android. The pertinent point that anyone who doesn't use iMessage or see the same value in is that we find the user experience far better than the alternative on Android. For instance, you far prefer the experience of the Back softkey on Android vs. the alternative methods on iPhone. Would you still be able to navigate on the iPhone if you switched? Of course, but you wouldn't enjoy the experience as much. Thats that same situation for many of us regarding iMessage.

Completely understand that the preference is for the convenience. I've said as much.

I really don't care if you switch or not, bro. I mean that sincerely.

My original message is pretty clear I think. Simply put, I'm saying the switch is easy and worth it. I'm aware not everyone agrees.

 

[tbayrgs]

What features do the note 7 lack that people are claiming don't matter? Genuine question. I'm loosely following this thread.

It's not the Note 7 lacking features but rather a criticism or proclamation that something in the Note isn't so special (ie iris scanner). For instance, I previously stated I think it's an inefficient security solution and some here act like I'm crazy to think such a thing. Yet lots of comments discounting iMessage as unimportant and those comments aren't held to fire.

Completely understand that the preference is for the convenience. I've said as much.

I really don't care if you switch or not, bro. I mean that sincerely.

I just see lots of comments that seem to disqualify any iPhone user claiming they won't leave because they value iMessage, with a tone that iMessage shouldn't be an important enough reason. My point is why is this any less pertinent than someone else saying they won't leave Android because they'd miss homescreen widgets?

You commented that leaving iMessage is 'the easiest solve'. Maybe for you because you don't see the same value as others. I've already explained I cannot replace the seamless functionality it offers me with anything else--many others see it the same way. Same goes for things like Continuity and Hanoff--these cannot be replicated by 3rd party solutions as efficiently if at all. That's my issue with these types of comments. You many not use these aspects of the Apple ecosystem or see the same degree of value as others. Truth is that it simply isn't any easy replication or switch in many cases so proclaiming it isn't accurate.

 

[epicrayban]

Look everyone, it comes down to this:

I can feel it's worth switching to Android. You can feel it's worth staying with iOS. And that'll be the end of that rather boring conversation. I have my preferences; you have yours. They are untouchable by the nature of their meaning; by nature of the definition of 'preference.' Like I said, a rather boring conversation.

What are we left with? Only objectivity. Only what these devices can do on their own merits. What they can do at the actual technology. That's where the interesting conversation is. The technology. This includes software.

And right now, it's hard to deny one company isn't standing out over the others at the technology.
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It's not the Note 7 lacking features but rather a criticism or proclamation that something in the Note isn't so special (ie iris scanner). For instance, I previously stated I think it's an inefficient security solution and some here act like I'm crazy to think such a thing. Yet lots of comments discounting iMessage as unimportant and those comments aren't held to fire.



I just see lots of comments that seem to disqualify any iPhone user claiming they won't leave because they value iMessage, with a tone that iMessage shouldn't be an important enough reason. My point is why is this any less pertinent than someone esle saying they won't leave Android because they'd miss homescreen widgets?

In short, I think the reason for why you may be seeing what you're seeing is because iMessage can be recreated closely enough. It's essentially texting. Whereas many more things simply cannot be done at all on the iPhone/iOS side that the Note 7 can do.

Just explaining what I think is happening.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Switching isn't the point though. Of course iPhone users could continue to message their contacts on Android. The pertinent point that anyone who doesn't use iMessage or see the same value in it is that we find the user experience far better than the alternative on Android. For instance, you far prefer the experience of the Back softkey on Android vs. the alternative methods on iPhone. Would you still be able to navigate on the iPhone if you switched? Of course, but you wouldn't enjoy the experience as much. Thats that same situation for many of us regarding iMessage and any number of other elements of the Apple ecosystem.

If user experience were truly the case, then iMessage wouldn't be at the top of many iPhone user's list as their go to messaging app. iMessage wins on iOS devices cause it's default and integrated into the texting UI.

Users have a complex about using 3rd party messaging apps in place of normal texts. And yes, most users differentiate texting from messaging. And it takes a message service overlapping the normal default texting UI to pull something like iMessage off. Now will Google be able to do that with Allo? That's the big question.

 

[epicrayban]

You commented that leaving iMessage is 'the easiest solve'. Maybe for you because you don't see the same value as others. I've already explained I cannot replace the seamless functionality it offers me with anything else--many others see it the same way. Same goes for things like Continuity and Hanoff--these cannot be replicated by 3rd party solutions as efficiently if at all. That's my issue with these types of comments. You many not use these aspects of the Apple ecosystem or see the same degree of value as others. Truth is that it simply isn't any easy replication or switch in many cases so proclaiming it isn't accurate.

I completely understand all this.
[doublepost=1471316853][/doublepost]I took part in derailing this thread.

Back to the Note 7.

 

[tbayrgs]

In short, I think the reason for why you may be seeing what you're seeing is because iMessage can be recreated closely enough. It's essentially texting. Whereas many more things simply cannot be done at all on the iPhone/iOS side that the Note 7 can do.

Just explaining what I think is happening.

But that's what you're missing---it's not just texting for those of use claiming such a strong preference for it, else you're right, why would it carry so much value?
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I completely understand all this.
[doublepost=1471316853][/doublepost]I took part in derailing this thread.

Back to the Note 7.

And I helped derail is just a much. Completely agree on this point.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[epicrayban]

But that's what you're missing---it's not just texting for those of use claiming such a strong preference for it, else you're right, why would it carry so much value?
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And I helped derail is just a much. Completely agree on this point.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

I do hope one day Google brings about a comparable messaging solution to iMessage.

Then all Android users, including note 7 users (see, staying on thread!) can also enjoy.

 

[soulreaver99]

I do hope one day Google brings about a comparable messaging solution to iMessage.

Then all Android users, including note 7 users (see, staying on thread!) can also enjoy.

It's called Hangouts. They just need to rename it to Messenger or Messages and delete all the other redundant apps.

 

[epicrayban]

It's called Hangouts. They just need to rename it to Messenger or Messages and delete all the other redundant apps.

I find Hangouts great.

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

The Samsung fast wireless charging stand is on sale at Target for 41.99. Staples price matched me and I used some rewards on them, I got 2 of them. They are regularly $70.

Wow. Good deal. I ended up getting the white OEM charging stand for the same price off Amazon.

Edit: bought the target one in black to match my phone! Thanks for the heads up. Will cancel our return the Amazon one.

 

[nviz22]

Why does anyone need to change? I text daily with both iOS and android users on a variety of platforms and it works fine. not seeing the issue here.

The previous poster said they will miss iMessage. What's App is the closing thing that emulates it.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Look everyone, it comes down to this:

I can feel it's worth switching to Android. You can feel it's worth staying with iOS. And that'll be the end of that rather boring conversation. I have my preferences; you have yours. They are untouchable by the nature of their meaning; by nature of the definition of 'preference.' Like I said, a rather boring conversation.

What are we left with? Only objectivity. Only what these devices can do on their own merits. What they can do at the actual technology. That's where the interesting conversation is. The technology. This includes software.

And right now, it's hard to deny one company isn't standing out over the others at the technology.
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In short, I think the reason for why you may be seeing what you're seeing is because iMessage can be recreated closely enough. It's essentially texting. Whereas many more things simply cannot be done at all on the iPhone/iOS side that the Note 7 can do.

Just explaining what I think is happening.

I don't think it's the function of iMessage that can't be replicated. There are tons of apps that can send messages and even multimedia over wifi/LTE. However some people have a lot of contacts that just point blank refuse/can't use something like what's app or another third party messaging app. If you have a lot of contacts like that or have important contacts like that then leaving iMessage behind can be hard. My mum. Cousin and sister in law will only use iMessage. I've tried setting up what's app, viber and various other messaging apps for them but they don't use them. Basically if you send them a message in another app they won't see it and won't read it. Some people just don't want to change from something they are familiar with. My cousin for example will only use iMessage. She's not even that old (early thirties). My younger cousin (her sister) is currently working in Thailand. She tried to set up a what's app group thread so that we could all talk. Her sister couldn't even get into using what's app then. She couldn't use Skype. In the end she had to buy an iPad so that she could communicate with her sister via iMessage and FaceTime. We stopped using that group thread which was actually more functional.

Sending basic text messages is fine but if you want to send pictures and videos which we do a lot these days then it creates a problem as I'm not going to pay 40p everytime I want to send a picture of my son to my mum, SIL or cousin because they can't use another platform. Also if you have a large network of people using iMessage it becomes a bit of a pain to start using various messaging apps for different people if you switch. It's easier to just use one.

I don't think anyone is saying that iMessage has any features that what's app, hangouts or others apps don't have but it's getting other people to use said apps when you switch.

 

[mellofello]

Everyone has FB. Just use FB messenger. I do 90 % of my friends, and family communication on there, and it has great features like GIF integration, and high quality video sharing

 

[The Game 161]

note 7 now available for pre order on samsung website with a delivery of 30th august. comes with free VR. So it's more than money than expected

just checked carphone warehouse..its not even available for sim free

 

[Klyster]

I wonder if some developer will do some magic with the iris IR blaster and get it to work as a remote, I hope so, would be a little awkward but usable.

 

[Shanghaichica]

note 7 now available for pre order on samsung website with a delivery of 30th august. comes with free VR. So it's more than money than expected

just checked carphone warehouse..its not even available for sim free

Can't see it on the website yet. It says come back tomorrow at 8 am!

How much is it?

 

[The Game 161]

Can't see it on the website yet. It says come back tomorrow at 8 am!

How much is it?

£739

For people who registered interest was available from 6am

 

[Shanghaichica]

£739

For people who registered interest was available from 6am

Oh I see. Thanks.

 

[super chimp]

iPhone users can send/receive texts so what is the big deal if you use iMessage or not?

Because a lot of iPhone users will only use iMessage in my experience & if you start using SMS it all goes up in the air.

That price on the Samsung website seems rather than step plus was hoping for an alternative choice to the VR set.

 

[tann]

Uk here. It is more expensive than I originally thought at £739 but pre ordered on Samsung's site. Thought it would be closer to £700.

Happy to see I got the gear vr thrown in but wish we could get the memory card here.

People discussing the imessage vs other messaging services. If your family / friends won't consider downloading WhatsApp / fb messenger etc to continue messaging your with media etc then it's their loss.

I have a friend who when I said I was going to try android stated, without me saying that he should use a different app with me, 'well the people who message you now will keep messaging you the way they have' knowing full well I knew he was talking about him.

Even though it saddens me he is closed minded about even trying WhatsApp or similar with someone whom he messages all day I can't take it personally and he will just now miss out on photos, videos and gifs.