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The-Real-Deal82

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A friend of mine had the original note and is about to get rid of it as the contract is nearly up. He regretted having it soon into the contract but stuck with it. I had to agree it was a ridiculous size for a phone and very impractical. It looked like he had a phone book in his pocket! lol he nearly bought my S3 but decided to wait for the S4, I think he'll be gutted if its bigger.
 

2298754

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AutoUnion also fails to address what I keep pointing out to him. That Samsung's smartphone lineup is more diverse than Apple's smartphone lineup, so their bases are more covered.

Please explain how it's more diverse? They have two major models right now. S3 and Note 2.

Plus a bunch of crappy lower end Galaxy phones that no one buys.
 

Essenar

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Oct 24, 2008
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It's pretty much universally accepted at this point that the S4 will have a 4.99 inch screen.

However, you can buy the S3 Mini which has a screen measuring only 4 inches, and I'm sure they'll release an S4 Mini too.

I wonder where the S4 upgrade will leave the Note 2. The Note 2 has really just started to gain steam and hopefully the S4 won't leapfrog it too badly.
 

0dev

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I wonder where the S4 upgrade will leave the Note 2. The Note 2 has really just started to gain steam and hopefully the S4 won't leapfrog it too badly.

It depends how long Samsung takes to launch the Note 3. Only time will tell.

The Galaxy S series is Sammy's baby though, that's top priority for them.
 

nick_elt

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It depends how long Samsung takes to launch the Note 3. Only time will tell.

The Galaxy S series is Sammy's baby though, that's top priority for them.

the note 2 only got launched in Europe in oct and us in nov or even dec. dont expect the note 3 any time too soon. announced aug/sep at the earliest. the s4 is def their flagship in terms of sales so yes it will be its top priority for sure. Also bear in mind that although the s4 will be announced 2moro i dont expect widespread availability for some time.
 

0dev

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Also bear in mind that although the s4 will be announced 2moro i dont expect widespread availability for some time.

If they want to push 100 million units they'll be sure their distribution network is on lock. I expect it'll be another month or two before the release but they'll be eager to get these to their customers ASAP.

The UK will probably get priority because the S3 has sold very well over here :D
 

nick_elt

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If they want to push 100 million units they'll be sure their distribution network is on lock. I expect it'll be another month or two before the release but they'll be eager to get these to their customers ASAP.

The UK will probably get priority because the S3 has sold very well over here :D

for whatever reasons Samsung has always looked after Europe first so id assume the UK would be up there.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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a better place
Sadly it could be case that UK / Euro model is different slightly once more compared to the USA.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...eveal-18ghz-qualcomm-cpu-1080p-display-342037


AnTuTu benchmarks of a reportedly UK model
galaxy-s-iv-benchmark-leak-new.jpg


The UK / international model looks to be carrying - 1.8GHz quad-core ARM v7 processor from Qualcomm with an Adreno 320 GPU. 2gb Ram.


Compared to the 25,000 the octo-cored Exynos 5 USA model with PowerVR SGX 544 GPU
s4antutu_041101275934_640x360.jpg
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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Please explain how it's more diverse? They have two major models right now. S3 and Note 2.

Plus a bunch of crappy lower end Galaxy phones that no one buys.

They have more than two smartphones, but even if those were the only two, that's more diverse than Apple's lineup. Therefore, not the same playing field, per the point of my post. Did you not read the rest of it?

Here it is again:



There's a reason why people respond to Samsung's [if true] minor S3-to-S4 upgrade differently than they do to Apple's upgrades.

Samsung's smartphone lineup is so much more versatile than Apple's. Samsung has a wide range of phones to cover different sizes and price levels, many of them are current generation, and offer different experiences but still remain smartphones.

With Apple, there is only one screen size that is of current generation. The smaller option is over a year old, and there's no larger screen size at all.

Also, just taking their phones at face value, the S3 offers so much more packed into it than the iPhone 5 -- in other words, it truly is hard for Samsung to introduce many hardware changes (and again, they have other lineups to cover other ground in the smartphone world). Apple, on the other hand, intentionally withholds hardware changes (they don't believe wireless charging is worth it, nor in screen size options, nor NFC, nor notification lights, nor expandable memory, etc.).

Likewise, Samsung doesn't recycle their design for two years, as Apple has been doing, and will likely continue to do with the 5S.

So, is the S3-to-S4 upgrade small? Sure -- as small as the 4S-to-5 upgrade, if you want to really compare. But does Samsung take two years to do it? No.



TL;DR: No one is giving Samsung a free pass. Samsung just has their bases more covered.



*DISCLAIMER: I don't own a single Samsung product (no smartphone, phablet, tablet, TV, or fridge). Just pointing out that it is not even playing fields when it comes to people's response to Samsung vs people's response to Apple.
 

0dev

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Sadly it could be case that UK / Euro model is different slightly once more compared to the USA.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...eveal-18ghz-qualcomm-cpu-1080p-display-342037


AnTuTu benchmarks of a reportedly UK model
Image

The UK / international model looks to be carrying - 1.8GHz quad-core ARM v7 processor from Qualcomm with an Adreno 320 GPU. 2gb Ram.


Compared to the 25,000 the octo-cored Exynos 5 USA model with PowerVR SGX 544 GPU
Image

I don't buy that. The leaks we had before were from the Chinese version and that had the eight core CPU. Theres no way they'd gimp the international version - that's the one they sell the most of compared the US version which is only ever sold in, well, the US.

If anything it'll be the US version that has the gimped hardware just as it was with the S3.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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I don't buy that. The leaks we had before were from the Chinese version and that had the eight core CPU. Theres no way they'd gimp the international version - that's the one they sell the most of compared the US version which is only ever sold in, well, the US.

If anything it'll be the US version that has the gimped hardware just as it was with the S3.

I wouldn't say gimped for either, the difference isn't so big to class it as gimped.

Thing is I'm not sure even in 24 hours time if we will know if the territories are split again hardware wise. I'm not sure Samsung will declare it at the launch.

We shall see soon..
 

0dev

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I wouldn't say gimped for either, the difference isn't so big to class it as gimped.

Thing is I'm not sure even in 24 hours time if we will know if the territories are split again hardware wise. I'm not sure Samsung will declare it at the launch.

We shall see soon..

A quad core from an eight core A15 is quite a difference if you ask me.

We'll see what happens tomorrow I guess.
 

nick_elt

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Oct 28, 2011
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there is no 8 core a15, its a quad core a15 with a quad core a9 attached and only one would be running at one time. how much battery it will save who knows but it wont necessarily be more powerful.
 

0dev

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Like was pointed out in the comments on the Verge article, they're not meant to look different. People know and recognise the S3 design and Samsung are building on that. A sensible move IMO.
 

daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
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And you've held an S3 before? Do you even know that the S3 and S4 are different sizes? And have different surface textures? And that the S3 has more bezel area than the S4?

*sigh* again i have. i've held/played with every Samsung flagship since the original S and Note.
 

SomeDudeAsking

macrumors 65816
Nov 23, 2010
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*sigh* again i have. i've held/played with every Samsung flagship since the original S and Note.

For how many minutes? The S4 is related to the S3 but you would have to be wilfully blind to not see that they are noticeably different. This isn't like where you can con someone into taking a iPhone 4 when they think they are buying a iPhone 4S because the iPhone 4 and the 4S are identical.
 

Mackan

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Don' tell me they are using some ugly dual color on this phone. Make it all black, thanks.
 
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