Galaxy S4

[ukbondraider]

So it looks like an S3 with the latest specs.

Ok, am glad I didnt wait to buy this. The Sony Z is therefore Androids flagship device this year then imo.

Looks like another 18 months till the next generation release from everyone.

Lets all get back to work everybody. Nothing to see here.

Although I am still waiting for a viable Android tablet apart from the Sony Tablet Z.

Lets hope the next generation android products actually place emphasis on design.

If the iphone 6 comes with a complete revamped ios then it is again game on. This generation Sony have come close to delivering the right product but have not quite delivered in some areas. Samsung have not made any advancement outside of the usual spec boost expected with new phones.

Overall, slightly disappointed but at least Sony and HTC are going in the right direction. They just need another generation or two to build upon their good products this year before they can offer the killer phone.


When will all manufacturers sort out the battery life.

 

[Dave.UK]

People that are calling this an Galaxy S3S are just flat out wrong. Do they resemble each other? Yes. Much in the same way the iPhone 5 resembles the iPhones 4/4S. But is it like a Apple S-progression? Clearly no.

Doesn't matter if you personally can't discern the difference. Unless the S4 uses the same exact casing and screen size as the S3, it is not an Apple-S progression.

This is an unbelievably easy concept.

It most certainly is and like you im surprised by the amount of people saying it.

Personally I think some people find it an easy to to have a quick pop at the S4.

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Exactly. Reason people dont want the S4 to look loke the S3 is because the S3 is the ugliest phone to date.

At least with the iphone 4 it was the best phone design ever and still is today imo.

Alot of non S3 people want to seriously consider the S4 but they are not being given the opportunity from the start.

In your opinion

I personally love the look and feel of the Galaxy S3. I wasnt a huge fan of the square design of the Galaxy S2 - So im persoanlly pleased they are keeping the rounded corner look. I happen to the think the S3 is one of the best looking phones out there.

As for your final point, any stats or facts to back that up?

 

[The Game 161]

What's the point of a great design if the insiders arent as great?

Fact is the s4 has great features inside..or should do

 

[ukbondraider]

What's the point of a great design if the insiders arent as great?

Fact is the s4 has great features inside..or should do

Every generation the phones available are apprximately all the same spec wise.

There is nothing in it between the Sony Z, HTC One, S4 etc specs wise.

Therefore the only distinguishing factor is the design.

Its like when you look at a girl. You mainly notice the face. This is because a good body is widely available.

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It most certainly is and like you im surprised by the amount of people saying it.

Personally I think some people find it an easy to to have a quick pop at the S4.

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In your opinion

I personally love the look and feel of the Galaxy S3. I wasnt a huge fan of the square design of the Galaxy S2 - So im persoanlly pleased they are keeping the rounded corner look. I happen to the think the S3 is one of the best looking phones out there.

As for your final point, any stats or facts to back that up?

I did state imo.

The only facts I have is that the Iphone 5 has outsold the S3 despite the S3 being half the cost. Again Ferrari outselling Ford comes to mind when it should clearly be the opposite and even then the S3 could still be considered a relative failure since it really should outsell the iphone by many multiples given its price.

There are so many iphone users who are bored with IOS and want to jump ship. Forums are full of them. However, the most common reason why they dont is because there is no viable option available to them.

To me the S4 should be deemed a failure if it allows Sony or HTC to increase their market share this generation. Judging by what I have seen this is very likely.

 

[KentuckyHouse]

I did state imo.

The only facts I have is that the Iphone 5 has outsold the S3 despite the S3 being half the cost. Again Ferrari outselling Ford comes to mind when it should clearly be the opposite and even then the S3 could be considered a failure since it really should outsell the iphone by many multiples given its price.

Wait, what?

I'm not sure where you're looking at prices but, in the US at least, the phones are the same price. On-contract price is $199 (for both) and off-contract price is $650 (unless you're like me and got Best Buy to price match AT&T, which has it for $550). And even if you're talking about getting the S3 on a special deal like $150 on-contract (which has happened), that's still not HALF the price of the iPhone 5.

And I don't think anyone, not even Samsung, thought the S3 would outsell the iPhone 5. Unless you're a complete "fandroid", at least. The fact of the matter is, the S3 is the first Android phone that's been able to stand toe-to-toe with the iPhone and even take some sales away from it. Did it outsell it? No. But I think even the most ardent Apple supporters will admit that Samsung has obviously come up with a winning formula that's allowed them to be seen in the same light as Apple.

 

[mattopotamus]

Wait, what?

I'm not sure where you're looking at prices but, in the US at least, the phones are the same price. On-contract price is $199 (for both) and off-contract price is $650 (unless you're like me and got Best Buy to price match AT&T, which has it for $550). And even if you're talking about getting the S3 on a special deal like $150 on-contract (which has happened), that's still not HALF the price of the iPhone 5.

And I don't think anyone, not even Samsung, thought the S3 would outsell the iPhone 5. Unless you're a complete "fandroid", at least. The fact of the matter is, the S3 is the first Android phone that's been able to stand toe-to-toe with the iPhone and even take some sales away from it. Did it outsell it? No. But I think even the most ardent Apple supporters will admit that Samsung has obviously come up with a winning formula that's allowed them to be seen in the same light as Apple.

random, but do you know why best buy always charges more for unlocked phone than att? For example, the note 2 is $799 at best buy and $550 online at att. The iphone 5 is $649 at best buy and $699 at best buy.

 

[KentuckyHouse]

random, but do you know why best buy always charges more for unlocked phone than att? For example, the note 2 is $799 at best buy and $550 online at att. The iphone 5 is $649 at best buy and $699 at best buy.

I honestly don't know, but I'm assuming it's because they're just greedy and want to make more money...LOL.

They will price match, though. For some reason, AT&T is usually $50-$100 cheaper than Best Buy, so I just have them price match. They don't put up a fight at all.

The funny thing is, it's the opposite on accessories. I find that AT&T stores are usually $5 higher than anywhere else on things like cases, chargers, etc. Again, probably just greed.

 

[ukbondraider]

Yes in the UK, prices for Android phones are significantly cheaper than iPhones. This is because iPhones are rarely discounted.

Android phones are ALWAYS discounted. In fact I can pick up and have picked up the newly released Sony Z and HTC One for significantly cheaper prices than I can vs an iPhone 5. Give it 2 or 3 weeks and an S4 will be available cheaper than an iPhone 5.

 

[Dave.UK]

I did state imo.

The only facts I have is that the Iphone 5 has outsold the S3 despite the S3 being half the cost. Again Ferrari outselling Ford comes to mind when it should clearly be the opposite and even then the S3 could still be considered a relative failure since it really should outsell the iphone by many multiples given its price.

Ok, so you have nothing to back up your previous statement in your last post. Also, im not sure where this "Galaxy S3 is half the price of the iphone 5" nonsense comes from!

Also you have to remember that with Android, users have choice. Some people want a larger screen so have gone for the Galaxy Note. Some want smaller screens so have gone for the Galaxy Mini. Some prefer HTC based Android phones and some prefer pure Android Nexus phones. If you want an ios based phone, you only have one option.

Also, I love people that compare the iphone to a Ferrari - This post in another thread sums it up nicely!

Wouldn't it actually be more like the Toyota or Honda of desktops, laptops, phones, etc? Ferrari is quite exclusive and very limited in production and uses technology that isn't widely available. Ferrari's are at the cutting edge of performance, very high performance equaled or surpassed by only a handful of automobiles. Ferrari's are also not super reliable and require frequent and expensive maintenance.

Apple products are widely available sell in huge numbers, are available everywhere, even WalMart. Even kids have iPhones. Everywhere you go you see people with an iPhone, etc. Hardly an exclusive product like Ferrari. I bet you'll see thousands of Toyotas and Hondas on the road for every Ferrari you see.

 

[KentuckyHouse]

Yes in the UK, prices for Android phones are significantly cheaper than iPhones. This is because iPhones are rarely discounted.

Android phones are ALWAYS discounted. In fact I can pick up and have picked up the newly released Sony Z and HTC One for significantly cheaper prices than I can vs an iPhone 5.

Fair enough. I didn't know that! Maybe I need to make a friend over in the UK and start buying the international versions of all these phones...LOL.

Thanks for the heads-up!

 

[Dave.UK]

Yes in the UK, prices for Android phones are significantly cheaper than iPhones. This is because iPhones are rarely discounted.

Android phones are ALWAYS discounted. In fact I can pick up and have picked up the newly released Sony Z and HTC One for significantly cheaper prices than I can vs an iPhone 5.

Carphonewarehouse - Both on Pay As You Go.

iPhone 5 - £499
Galaxy S3 - £489 (Includes £10 top up)


O2
iPhone 5 - £549
Galaxy S3 - £499

Hardly half the price

 

[ukbondraider]

I am not going to state this is a fact (since some folks are going to want me to post a national census) but you should know,

a lot of S3 owners are S3 owners because they cannot afford to or not willing to pay the price of an iPhone 5. It isnt because they prefer the S3. Hopefully even you arent deluded enough to recognise this.

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Carphonewarehouse - Both on Pay As You Go.

iPhone 5 - £499
Galaxy S3 - £489 (Includes £10 top up)


O2
iPhone 5 - £549
Galaxy S3 - £499

Hardly half the price

Who the hell shops at these places when buying a phone?

S3 free on a £26 pm contract UPON RELEASE date. Now £21 pm with free Samsung 7 inch Tablet.

Iphone 5 cheapest is probably £36pm with comprable minutes/data or £31 for a useless plan.

Also look at second hand prices. A sealed S3 would probably sell for around £200-250. A sealed iPhone 5 would sell for £400 ish.

In short you are being ripped off if you pay the same or similar prices for an S3 vs an iPhone 5. However, it is your money.

 

[daveathall]

S3 being half the cost.

Wrong.

 

[The Game 161]

I am not going to this is a fact but you should know,

a lot of S3 owners are S3 owners because they cannot afford to or not willing to pay the price of an iPhone 5. It isnt because they prefer the S3. Hopefully even you arent deluded enough to recognise this.

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Who the hell shops at these places when buying a phone?

S3 free on a £26 pm contract UPON RELEASE date. Now £21 pm with free Samsung 7 inch Tablet.

Iphone 5 cheapest is probably £36pm with comprable minutes/data or £31 for a useless plan.

Also look at second hand prices. A sealed S3 would probably sell for around £200-250. A sealed iPhone 5 would sell for £400 ish.

In short you are being ripped off if you pay the same or similar prices for an S3 vs an iPhone 5. However, it is your money.

Why not? Carphone warehouse is one of the few shops that sells these phones sim free..
You also can't be serious when you say people with S3 only have S3 because of cost

It's because they think the s3 is a better phone than the iPhone 5

 

[Dave.UK]

I am not going to this is a fact but you should know,

a lot of S3 owners are S3 owners because they cannot afford to or not willing to pay the price of an iPhone 5. It isnt because they prefer the S3. Hopefully even you arent deluded enough to recognise this.

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Who the hell shops at these places when buy a phone?

S3 free on a £26 pm contract UPON RELEASE date. Now £21 pm with free Samsung 7 inch Tablet.

Iphone 5 cheapest is probably £36pm with comprable minutes/data or £31 for a useless plan.

You mean your not going to go into it because you cant back your so called "fact" up.

What a complete and utter load of rubbish. Both the iphone 5 and Galaxy S3 are very similarly priced. Trying to make out the iphone is a product for the rich and elite has just lost you any little credibility you had left.

Stop moving the goalposts! Are you talking off contract or on contract? Ive just showed you off contact both the iphone 5 and Galaxy S3 are similarly priced! Who shops at O2 and TheCarPhoneWareHouse? Are you actually from the UK? Their two of the largest phone retailers in the UK!

 

[ukbondraider]

I am talking over a contract term.

Lets put it this way. If I was to buy a phone right now I can guarantee it would not be direct from

CPW,
P4U
Three
O2
Voda

Why because these are the RRPs.

Nearly every agency seller would be cheaper for the same deal e.g

Affordablemobiles
Dialaphone
Mobilephonesdirect

etc etc.

I guess you arent a savvy shopper so my point has no meaning to you.

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Why not? Carphone warehouse is one of the few shops that sells these phones sim free..
You also can't be serious when you say people with S3 only have S3 because of cost

It's because they think the s3 is a better phone than the iPhone 5

I am very serious. Alot of my colleagues are some of these people as to are my friends.

You must be deluded.

By the way I said some S3 owners.

 

[daveathall]

Cheapest one can get a S3 (LTE) on O2 for £37 is up front cost of phone is £129
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/tariffs/samsung/galaxy-s-iii-pebble-blue-4g/

Cheapest one can get a iP5 on O2 for £37 is up front cost of phone is £49.99
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/tariffs/apple/iphone-5-16gb-black/

 

[grkm3]

I paid full retail unlocked price for my gs3 and will do for my gs4 also!

The phones were priced the same here in the states and both had sales but the bottom line is both phones are priced exactly the same.

199 with 2 year on launch and they trickle down after that,My brother got an iphone 5 for 127 at walmart with a 2 year contract.

Cant wait to get my hands on one and to the people that say they want the htc and sony good luck with a locked bootloader and no way to root the device,on the other hand Samsung wants you to unlock the device and comes with no encypted bootloader.

this phone will be the game changer in the devs department,cant wait for the first kernel to use all cores instead of just 4 at once

 

[onthecouchagain]

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-has-built-in-SwiftKey-prediction-software_id40830

If the S4 will have Swiftkey prediction built into its keyboard, it's going to rock.

Once again, increasing the distance in keyboard quality from iOS. iOS' keyboard is in so desperate need of updating. It's getting sad.

 

[Dave.UK]

You must be deluded.

By the way I said some S3 owners.

I think you are deluded, thinking that the iPhone is still the phone for the rich and the elite.

You stated "a lot of S3 owners are owners because the cant afford an iphone 5".

Is it so hard for you to understand that some people purchase and use a Galaxy S3 because they prefer that phone? I certainly understand some people purchase the iPhone 5 as they prefer that.

 

[The Game 161]

I am talking over a contract term.

Lets put it this way. If I was to buy a phone right now I can guarantee it would not be direct from

CPW,
P4U
Three
O2
Voda

Why because these are the RRPs.

Nearly every agency seller would be cheaper for the same deal e.g

Affordablemobiles
Dialaphone
Mobilephonesdirect

etc etc.

I guess you arent a savvy shopper so my point has no meaning to you.

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I am very serious. Alot of my colleagues are some of these people as to are my friends.

You must be deluded.

By the way I said some S3 owners.

They are shopping at the wrong places if the iPhone is that much more.

Everybody has different needs and view each phone as better for them but the 5 is certainly more Restrictive than the S3 is which does have more features..

 

[grkm3]

Samsung is predicting 10 million sales first month so I guess all those people that are about to pay 200-300 with a contract cant afford one lol

 

[onthecouchagain]

I paid full retail unlocked price for my gs3 and will do for my gs4 also!

From where? And the US version or the international version? And for which carrier?

 

[ukbondraider]

I think you are deluded, thinking that the iPhone is still the phone for the rich and the elite.

You stated "a lot of S3 owners are owners because the cant afford an iphone 5".

Is it so hard for you to understand that some people purchase and use a Galaxy S3 because they prefer that phone? I certainly understand some people purchase the iPhone 5 as they prefer that.

Of course I understand there are a lot of people who prefer the S3 over the Iphone. Everyone has different tastes.

My point was that NO ONE would buy an iPhone because they didnt want one. However, many people would buy an S3 even though they didnt prefer it due to cost.

This makes the numbers sold even more and less remarkable depending on which manufacturer you look at.

 

[grkm3]

From where? And the US version or the international version? And for which carrier?

Verizon,I had to to keep my unlimited data plan,if you use an upgrade now they redo your contract and put you in a 2gb plan.

US version

I keep refreshing the Verizon web page to see the preorder as I know this cell will be SOLD out fast!