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Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Tbh only time I wish I had a physical home button is when my phone is on my desk flat and I want to quick turn on screen - I think that will b be missed by many.

Problem fixed for me though with pgm

I hardly ever use the home button and use my side button to turn on the screen 99% of the time. I think im just used to it from my previous Galaxy S phone that didnt have a home button and it is very easy and simple as well.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
Maybe the new touchwiz 6.0 uses - ahem- "gestures" ?

Swipe up to reveal lock screen. Swipe sideways from bezel to switch apps/go back. Swipe up to reveal multi tasking. Swipe down to close (let's say it takes two fingers not to conflict with notification pull down). And so on.

Dream come true!
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Maybe the new touchwiz 6.0 uses - ahem- "gestures" ?

Swipe up to reveal lock screen. Swipe sideways from bezel to switch apps/go back. Swipe up to reveal multi tasking. Swipe down to close (let's say it takes two fingers not to conflict with notification pull down). And so on.

Dream come true!

Um, dream becomes reality if you use Apex or Nova. They have had those for a while now. I dont understand why some just wont try another launcher. They are much better than TouchWiz.
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
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5,692
I am very curious to see the final design and spec's of the Galaxy S4. Rumors were saying it would be almost as thin as the iPhone 5, while also packing a beefy sized 2600mh battery. That would be amazing to see such a thin lightweight phone with a huge battery like that.

And on top of that, the new processor and GPU are supposed to be very efficient, and better for battery life too.

Right now I am all about battery life, phones have gotten fast enough for me, don't need them any quicker, but long battery life is very important, and even better if removable. Couple times a year I go on camping trips, is nice to have replaceable batteries, and then also helpful if the battery itself is large and the phone efficient to last long on a single charge.

I am no iPhone fan, but have to give them credit, on using only a 1450mh sized battery, but that thing can get pretty darn good life out of it. An Android phone with a 1450mh battery would be dead in less than 8 hours.

We need more phones copying Motorola's MAXX style battery, a beefy 3300mh battery, while also going into a thin phone.

When will phones have battery life that last 24 hours, but 24 hours of real world use, not disabling features, or turning stuff off to save battery life. I mean using it for GPS navigation for couple hours a day, make tons of phone calls, have all sync features enabled and running 24/7. I had the Note 2 for three weeks, even that beast of a phone would die on me after 16 - 18 hours with heavy workday use, like two hours worth of phone calls, GPS for 90 minutes, texting like mad, surfing the web non stop, reading and sending e-mails, sync accounts all on. Even that phone couldn't last a full day with that type of heavy non stop use. And I was running a good custom TW ROM, with kernel known for battery life. Sure the Note 2 was great on weekends with WiFi, I would get 36 hours out of it, but on a weekday at work using the phone all day, no way.
 
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mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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I am very curious to see the final design and spec's of the Galaxy S4. Rumors were saying it would be almost as thin as the iPhone 5, while also packing a beefy sized 2600mh battery. That would be amazing to see such a thin lightweight phone with a huge battery like that.

And on top of that, the new processor and GPU are supposed to be very efficient, and better for battery life too.

Right now I am all about battery life, phones have gotten fast enough for me, don't need them any quicker, but long battery life is very important, and even better if removable. Couple times a year I go on camping trips, is nice to have replaceable batteries, and then also helpful if the battery itself is large and the phone efficient to last long on a single charge.

I am no iPhone fan, but have to give them credit, on using only a 1450mh sized battery, but that thing can get pretty darn good life out of it. An Android phone with a 1450mh battery would be dead in less than 8 hours.

We need more phones copying Motorola's MAXX style battery, a beefy 3300mh battery, while also going into a thin phone.

for as much as we have advanced with technology, it seems like batteries are still lagging.
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
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for as much as we have advanced with technology, it seems like batteries are still lagging.

I have the Nexus 4 now, with custom ROM, and kernel known for best battery life. On heavy workday use, I get around 10 - 12 hours total use, 5h On Screen time. On an easy light weekday my Nexus 4, can get 16 - 18 hours at the most. But even on weekends with mainly WiFi use, I am lucky to ever see 24 hours total, never lasted that long yet, maybe 20 - 22 hours the most.

My brother has the iPhone 4S, known for pretty good battery life, same with him, he can never get 24 hours out of it, he says on weekdays at work, he gets maybe 15 - 17 hours or so, before it's dead. Yes on weekends with light use, he can get much better, but not night and day better.

Sucks for us, that like to go backpacking in the mountains, or snowboarding weekend trips, is nice for peace of mind, to have a phone that could go a day and a half. I would be happy if a smartphone could go 36 hours, without disabling features, and everything still running 24/7, and not having to baby it.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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I have the Nexus 4 now, with custom ROM, and kernel known for best battery life. On heavy workday use, I get around 10 - 12 hours total use, 5h On Screen time. On an easy light weekday my Nexus 4, can get 16 - 18 hours at the most. But even on weekends with mainly WiFi use, I am lucky to ever see 24 hours total, never lasted that long yet, maybe 20 - 22 hours the most.

My brother has the iPhone 4S, known for pretty good battery life, same with him, he can never get 24 hours out of it, he says on weekdays at work, he gets maybe 15 - 17 hours or so, before it's dead. Yes on weekends with light use, he can get much better, but not night and day better.

Sucks for us, that like to go backpacking in the mountains, or snowboarding weekend trips, is nice for peace of mind, to have a phone that could go a day and a half. I would be happy if a smartphone could go 36 hours, without disabling features, and everything still running 24/7, and not having to baby it.

That is really the only time where not begin around a charger takes effect. 16-18 hours plenty for most since we are unplugged for around that same amount of time. It still is just crazy that we are not at the point where a phone can last at least 3 days under all circumstances.
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
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5,692
That is really the only time where not begin around a charger takes effect. 16-18 hours plenty for most since we are unplugged for around that same amount of time. It still is just crazy that we are not at the point where a phone can last at least 3 days under all circumstances.

Rumors point to the iPhone 5S having a 10-15% larger battery, and with a newer processor and GPU, it will be even more efficient and longer battery life.

My next phone for 2013, will be the one that has the longest and best battery life. If it's the iPhone 5S, Galaxy S4, or Nexus-Five, I don't care anymore, I just want the best battery now.
 

sc4rf4c3

macrumors regular
Oct 10, 2012
190
41
Um, dream becomes reality if you use Apex or Nova. They have had those for a while now. I dont understand why some just wont try another launcher. They are much better than TouchWiz.

That's right Nova has gestures for a long time. Here's my gestures setup with Nova:

One finger swipe down: nofitication
One finger swipe up: hide dock
Two fingers swipe down: Browser
Two fingers swipe up: Pandora
Double tap screen: App drawer
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
3,776
16
Del Mar, CA
I really hope it's not on screen buttons..

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That's right Nova has gestures for a long time. Here's my gestures setup with Nova:

One finger swipe down: nofitication
One finger swipe up: hide dock
Two fingers swipe down: Browser
Two fingers swipe up: Pandora
Double tap screen: App drawer

I use one finger swipe up to hide status bar
Two finger swipe up to load google voice
Two finger swipe down to load S voice
Double tap screen to bring up camera

My app drawer icon is in my dock and when I swipe up on that, that loads google now.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I am very curious to see the final design and spec's of the Galaxy S4. Rumors were saying it would be almost as thin as the iPhone 5, while also packing a beefy sized 2600mh battery. That would be amazing to see such a thin lightweight phone with a huge battery like that.

And on top of that, the new processor and GPU are supposed to be very efficient, and better for battery life too.

Right now I am all about battery life, phones have gotten fast enough for me, don't need them any quicker, but long battery life is very important, and even better if removable. Couple times a year I go on camping trips, is nice to have replaceable batteries, and then also helpful if the battery itself is large and the phone efficient to last long on a single charge.

I am no iPhone fan, but have to give them credit, on using only a 1450mh sized battery, but that thing can get pretty darn good life out of it. An Android phone with a 1450mh battery would be dead in less than 8 hours.


We need more phones copying Motorola's MAXX style battery, a beefy 3300mh battery, while also going into a thin phone.

When will phones have battery life that last 24 hours, but 24 hours of real world use, not disabling features, or turning stuff off to save battery life. I mean using it for GPS navigation for couple hours a day, make tons of phone calls, have all sync features enabled and running 24/7. I had the Note 2 for three weeks, even that beast of a phone would die on me after 16 - 18 hours with heavy workday use, like two hours worth of phone calls, GPS for 90 minutes, texting like mad, surfing the web non stop, reading and sending e-mails, sync accounts all on. Even that phone couldn't last a full day with that type of heavy non stop use. And I was running a good custom TW ROM, with kernel known for battery life. Sure the Note 2 was great on weekends with WiFi, I would get 36 hours out of it, but on a weekday at work using the phone all day, no way.

Well yeah but the iPhone has a much smaller screen to power up and it also doesnt do as much that would need as much power.

I agree about wanting better battery life but if the iPhone ever gets a 4.8" screen alongwith widgets , more notifications, automatic updates with Siri showing you traffic, how long to get home, scores, stocks, etc...you can sure bet it will need a much bigger battery than what it has now.
 

standingoten

macrumors newbie
Mar 4, 2013
26
0
Well yeah but the iPhone has a much smaller screen to power up and it also doesnt do as much that would need as much power.

My GS3 has 1 home screen and I only use texting/emails. Same thing on my iPhone and I get through a whole day with more % left over on the iPhone. The iPhone does everything an Android phone does.
 

SomeDudeAsking

macrumors 65816
Nov 23, 2010
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2
I really hope it's not on screen buttons..

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I use one finger swipe up to hide status bar
Two finger swipe up to load google voice
Two finger swipe down to load S voice
Double tap screen to bring up camera

My app drawer icon is in my dock and when I swipe up on that, that loads google now.

Don't those gestures only work on gthe Nova Launcher home screen and not if you have an app open like say in Google Chrome?
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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a better place
Samsung-Galaxy-S4-Prototype.jpg


Nice prototype, but it won't look anything like it :)
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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689
My GS3 has 1 home screen and I only use texting/emails. Same thing on my iPhone and I get through a whole day with more % left over on the iPhone. The iPhone does everything an Android phone does.

No, it doesn't. Sorry.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
It would be genius if Samsung placed stereo speakers on the front of the phone like they do for the Galaxy Note 10.1. It makes no sense for speakers to be point downwards or to the back of the phone.

If they are loud enough its fine. iPhones are on the bottom and still not loud enough. If your phone is in your pocket face against your leg or in a holster face in then the speakers are covered. From the back, they are not.
 

strausd

macrumors 68030
Jul 11, 2008
2,998
1
Texas
Um, dream becomes reality if you use Apex or Nova. They have had those for a while now. I dont understand why some just wont try another launcher. They are much better than TouchWiz.

Too bad Nova Launcher gestures only work on the home screen. I don't know about you, but most of my time on my Nexus 4 is spent inside of an app, not on the home screen.
 

sviato

macrumors 68020
Oct 27, 2010
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Nice prototype, but it won't look anything like it :)

That looks amazing.

I skipped the iPhone 5 because it didn't seem much better than my 4S so I'm very interested in seeing the S4 and Google X phone this spring. Will likely pick up on of the Tue when I'm up for an upgrade in June.
 

standingoten

macrumors newbie
Mar 4, 2013
26
0
If they are loud enough its fine. iPhones are on the bottom and still not loud enough. If your phone is in your pocket face against your leg or in a holster face in then the speakers are covered. From the back, they are not.

I prefer them on the bottom or forward facing like the HTC One. Having it on the back like the GS3, it sounds horrible. Whether it is on the take or in my hands, it sounds muffled and so tiny.
 
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