Soon enough NFC will become standard on most Android phones. When that happens, companies won't give a damn about waiting to see if Apple implements it, being that Android holds the world's largest market share.
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Soon enough NFC will become standard on most Android phones. When that happens, companies won't give a damn about waiting to see if Apple implements it, being that Android holds the world's largest market share.
Most people still wont use it/don't know how to use it/there won't be infrastructure ready for it/etc.
Go to a store and ask 5 random people if they know what NFC means.
Its safe to say that if Apple joined the mobile payments, NFC would develop more quickly than without it.
Plenty of Asian countries have been using NFC for a long time. The terminals were designed to work with wireless fobs that have been around 15+ years here in the US, usually at gas stations.
Will it be bigger when Apple does it? Unlikely at least in the US. I doubt you'll see it in privately owned business. Will it be more popular? Most certainly.
There are places that many would never want to use it. Like a restaurant, I'm not giving a waiter my phone. Or a hotel, basically anytime the phone needs to leave my hand.
As far as companies investing. Its the terminal companies that make the terminals and they aren't much more of an investment then a terminal without NFC. I work for a service company and we have one at the office that customers never see, it's just used for office personnel.
I thought the music was pretty good lol
lol Here in Atlanta (why the video was recorded), there are plenty of places with NFC. Heck, I just used it at the Children's Urgent Care office to buy my son a bottle of water while we were in the waiting room.That's because it's not at the forefront yet.
I think only the Nexus line currently puts Google Wallet as one of the default apps(Correct me if I'm wrong). Any other Android phone, it needs to be installed and some devices need to be rooted.
Once they decide to put the Google Wallet app or any other NFC payment app at the forefront, it will take off big time.
Using NFC via Google wallet has been an extremely easy setup and usage experience. I don't see people feeling hindered by it at all.
Apple has a small window(a couple of years IMO) before they miss out on being the main reason of NFC popularity. Regardless, it's the future.
I know the Note 2 is supported without any root. The GS3 needs root. So there's a slight chance that Google Wallet could end up being a default app on the GS4 and Note 3. Seems like Samsung is leaning that way. If that happens, using NFC as a payment option might explode in less than a couple years.
I thought the music was pretty good lol
This is my point. If you don't have it, you don't/can't use it, therefore don't look for it. Those people say its not implemented anywhere.
I mean come on, if a soda machine takes credit it takes NFC payment. Not bad IMO.
What I'm saying is it doesn't matter how much Google is trying to push NFC...if there even trying to push it if consumers either don't care or don't know how to use it.
I'm sure its more popular in a few other countries but its nothing more than a gimmick. Of course its much more useful than that but people just see it as a "beta-like, insecure way" to pay for stuff.
Even if they know how to use NFC most stores don't even have the option to use NFC. McDonalds, Starbucks, Best Buy, etc. Everyone still pays with credit and cash.
What you just explained to me, probably 95% of the people that have smartphones particular Android phones don't even know. Most Android phones sold globally are dumb, cheap phones running on Android not flagship Nexus and Galaxy devices. Most iPhones sold are for people that barely know how to use mulitasking and use iCloud.
lol but dang...to drag the instrumental through the mud in such a callous fashion.. lol
But yeah, there were other places I went to, that wouldn't allow me to record. While no NFC terminals aren't everywhere, they are definitely in enough places for them to be useful.----------
NFC payments will become more commonplace. It won't be Google that pushes it to the forefront though, it will be Isis. They have too much money invested in it (hundreds of millions) to do otherwise.
The average customer in Japan actually knows about NFC and been having them built in the cellphones for over a decade. Americans are just worried more about guns.
While I am all for NFC, it kind of scares me. Only because, I can say with absolute certainty, that most people have no idea how to even use a credit card. Still. And as old as the credit card is it is still the easiest thing to fake and commit fraud with. I see it daily. What's worse is, the credit card should be the safest form of payment, and it absolutely is the easiest way to protect your own purchases- but people still don't get it. Credit card fraud is a gold mine, and it's the consumers fault virtually every time. Tech that old should be more stable than it is, but it gets easier to fraud by the day. They say the con man is always one step ahead of you, but in the case of credit cards it's more like a hundred steps- I don't know if that would improve any or not with widespread roll out of NFC.
I have no beef with NFC, I'd likely use it to pay for things. I find it's other uses more interesting though. I'm using a Lumia 920 right now and I was kind of bummed when I saw how restricted the NFC functions are. My next phone will probably be the Galaxy S4 and maybe that will have some more options.
I have no beef with NFC, I'd likely use it to pay for things. I find it's other uses more interesting though. I'm using a Lumia 920 right now and I was kind of bummed when I saw how restricted the NFC functions are. My next phone will probably be the Galaxy S4 and maybe that will have some more options.
Pretty sure I said some countries know how to use NFC.
Yea, here at the US we still have a lot of work to do.
And you know that NFC isn't a felling point when ads don't even mention them. Every ad I've seen on tv, magazine, etc. involves 4G LTE.
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Yea, I think eventually people will accept digital transactions.
Its just a little silly to see Apple disappearing for NFC. I'm sure there testing things out (passbook is like a beta).
But Google/Iris pushing NFC is good, I never said it was a bad thing. I just think Apple is still too big a player for them to just do it by themselves.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with what Isis is, but once it becomes nationwide, it will catch on. It has too much behind it, not to catch on.
Credit cards are very insecure. All the numbers are printed right on the card and it is easy to see by anyone near by or with a camera. The exact same numbers are used every single time, which in this day and age is beyond idiotic. And NFC doesn't scare me, in fact, I have an NFC capable credit card that I tap with every time I buy gas at the pump. So much easier than having to do the whole card swipe or chip read.
The problem is not NFC but how the banking industry does transactions. Your account numbers are passed back and forth with each transaction because that is how the credit card industry operates traditionally. With NFC, we should be using one time transaction tokens that are passed to the merchant instead, similar to how one time credit cards work but with actual asymmetric encryption. The secure element on your phone should contain the authorization token from your bank (that even you wouldn't know what it is), which is then used to cryptographically sign individual transaction amounts and tokens. The merchant receives this one time cryptographic token, which is then used to perform the payment at the amount set.
What your explaining is the present and can be applied to the beginning of so much that already exists today. My discussion is about the near future.
Actually there is plenty of cheap Android phones with NFC. And plenty of non-Android smartphones have been touting NFC.
Also the top 4 sellers of 2012 have NFC.
When NFC is nearly on all smartphones, companies will notice and actually push NFC. When Google reports a huge enough number of Google Wallet activations, companies will notice. A smartphone is something that people always have on them. Companies are not going to pass up on the chance to make sure everyone has a form of payment on them at all times.
So we're not expecting it to have S-Pen. I won't be buying, then. The S-Pen is soooo useful when you're in a call and someone asks "do you have a pen"? I always say yes right away, pull out the S-Pen and it automatically opens a new floating note so I can write down whatever info they need to give me. Not to mention the other features it has, honestly I don't use it that much but when someone asks me if I can write something down during a call that alone makes it worth it.
The main reason I'm excited about the S4 is because it gives us an idea of what the Note III might be like.
I wish it had the S pen too. But i can see why samsung keeps that feature for the note. The S pen and screen size are the only two major features separating the galaxy S3 and the note 2. I think i am going to go for the S4. If the note 3 is roughly the same size as the 2 then I'm interested. But the rumors about the screen size drastically increasing again turn me off. I like the current size.
I usually just minimize the phone app, open notes and type notes.
Pen or no pen, you can take notes while taking a call on your smartphone. A pen is easier, but not necessary to do the note taking.
NFC has been around before it was put into phones. The terminals at my grocery store were never really designed with phones in mind. There has been NFC in credit cards and other things since way before it was put into cell phones. So a lot of places are already setup to accept phone NFC payments and didn't know it.
Also, if NFC isn't in your stores, it doesn't mean you can't use it. Order some NFC tags online and put them around your house/work. They're cheap and can help make tedious tasks on your phone much easier. I just had some come in the mail yesterday and I already setup 3 around my house.
Also, if NFC isn't in your stores, it doesn't mean you can't use it. Order some NFC tags online and put them around your house/work. They're cheap and can help make tedious tasks on your phone much easier. I just had some come in the mail yesterday and I already setup 3 around my house.
With beauties such as the Xperia Z (the white one may be the most beautiful smartphone I've ever seen) and the HTC One, Samsung will really have to marry plastic and aesthetics very well to grab attention away.
Others have figured out how to keep expandable memory (slots on the side) and make aluminium phones durable (iPhone 5 drop tests are amazing because the device is so thin and light). It's time Samsung, too, figures out a way to do those things, and still allow user-replaceable batteries, with better materials and build quality.
Others have figured out how to keep expandable memory (slots on the side) and make aluminium phones durable (iPhone 5 drop tests are amazing because the device is so thin and light). It's time Samsung, too, figures out a way to do those things, and still allow user-replaceable batteries, with better materials and build quality.
Maybe the gs5, but with htc and Sony failing hard compared to Samsung when it comes to a customer's perspective for "cool" right now, I doubt Samsung thinks they have to do anything to gs4. Right now their eyes are on apple, not htc or Sony.
Just mentioning the state of business right now.