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The Game 161

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Resale value has fallen through the floor ... :( a device that cost me €949 and I'm looking at €500 to sell it now. There are loads of Ad's for the Edge and hardly anyone making offers. Basically it's untenable for me to sell mine and pay another €400+ to get the plus. I can and will buy a Moto x Style for around that price.

Maybe later in the year when the price of the Edge + tanks I'll reconsider, but now it's just unjustifiable to myself.
Resale sucks with Samsung devices

I only got £264 for my note 4
 

MRU

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Working it out on Clove.co.uk - even with the discount price over Samsung UK, the Edge Plus 64gb at £680 + £24 shipping to Ireland = £704

With current Euro conversion rate its €998 !!!! Actually more that I originally thought (I guesstimated around 900 when i was walking on the beach earlier).

So if I were to sell my 3 week old Gold S6 Edge 64gb for €500 - it's going to cost me near the same again to purchase the Plus. Essentially at that rate, I could buy an additional nearly new S6 Edge 64gb for the price it would cost me to upgrade my existing to the Plus

That's just insanity if I did that. A part of me would like to, but even as impulsive / irrational about having the 'latest' phones - I can't in all good logic go down that route, especially to face the prospect that come Feb when the S7 is all gearing up to be announced and I'll have lost another €400 on the plus !!! It literally is throwing good money after bad this upgrade - that it becomes untenable.

Looks like I'm just going to have to accept the ram issues :(
 

The Game 161

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Working it out on Clove.co.uk - even with the discount price over Samsung UK, the Edge Plus 64gb at £680 + £24 shipping to Ireland = £704

With current Euro conversion rate its €998 !!!! Actually more that I originally thought (I guesstimated around 900 when i was walking on the beach earlier).

So if I were to sell my 3 week old Gold S6 Edge 64gb for €500 - it's going to cost me near the same again to purchase the Plus. Essentially at that rate, I could buy an additional nearly new S6 Edge 64gb for the price it would cost me to upgrade my existing to the Plus

That's just insanity if I did that. A part of me would like to, but even as impulsive / irrational about having the 'latest' phones - I can't in all good logic go down that route, especially to face the prospect that come Feb when the S7 is all gearing up to be announced and I'll have lost another €400 on the plus !!! It literally is throwing good money after bad this upgrade - that it becomes untenable.

Looks like I'm just going to have to accept the ram issues :(
Yeah that's alot of cash

Least if I were to buy the iPhone plus each year I could sell it each year before launch for £400 and only have to pay £300 instead of taking out a new contract and pay 20 a month for my data and texts etc instead of £55 which I pay now
 

GadgetSN

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What is it with the price on Samsungs website. Carriers are selling the 32gb model for £620 outright. Why are Samsung listing a £750 pricetag?
 

MRU

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What is it with the price on Samsungs website. Carriers are selling the 32gb model for £620 outright. Why are Samsung listing a £750 pricetag?

I'm guessing carrier versions even those off contract PAYG are still often locked to their network or if not are still carrier versions (carrier firmwares) whereas Samsung's own are BTU unbranded - but still that's a massive discrepancy between the price regardless. But then clove.co.uk would be XEU unbranded.

Clearly Samsung.co.uk don't want to sell many if they're going to be charging that much more than the likes of carriers and 3rd party retailers etc...
 

MRU

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Yeah that's alot of cash

Least if I were to buy the iPhone plus each year I could sell it each year before launch for £400 and only have to pay £300 instead of taking out a new contract and pay 20 a month for my data and texts etc instead of £55 which I pay now

That's what I do with my iPhones
 

FFR

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The release value of android devices is just rubbish. I can get £410 for my iPhone 6 plus (128GB) which is almost a year old. The note 4 which came out at the same time would only get me £225 and the S6 edge (128 GB) would get me £330 (mazuma). So my nearly 12 month old iPhone 6 plus had a higher resale value than the 6 month old Galaxy S6 edge which cost more than my iPhone 6 plus at launch. That's ridiculous.

You cannot fight the law of supply and demand.
Inventory > demand = drop in value

If the rumor regarding the s7 launching in January are true, than Samsung is really in trouble.
 

JaySoul

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Jan 30, 2008
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Working it out on Clove.co.uk - even with the discount price over Samsung UK, the Edge Plus 64gb at £680 + £24 shipping to Ireland = £704

With current Euro conversion rate its €998 !!!! Actually more that I originally thought (I guesstimated around 900 when i was walking on the beach earlier).

So if I were to sell my 3 week old Gold S6 Edge 64gb for €500 - it's going to cost me near the same again to purchase the Plus. Essentially at that rate, I could buy an additional nearly new S6 Edge 64gb for the price it would cost me to upgrade my existing to the Plus

That's just insanity if I did that. A part of me would like to, but even as impulsive / irrational about having the 'latest' phones - I can't in all good logic go down that route, especially to face the prospect that come Feb when the S7 is all gearing up to be announced and I'll have lost another €400 on the plus !!! It literally is throwing good money after bad this upgrade - that it becomes untenable.

Looks like I'm just going to have to accept the ram issues :(

I'd have your S6 Edge for €500... That's exactly the one I wanted!
 
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MRU

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Bet you do it ha

No not until second hand value tanks and then I may consider but with Moto X Style and iPhone 6S plus next month it would just be throwing money away that I could spend elsewhere now. If the upgrade worked out around €200 - then yes, but €500 - not a chance tbh.
 

The Game 161

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No not until second hand value tanks and then I may consider but with Moto X Style and iPhone 6S plus next month it would just be throwing money away that I could spend elsewhere now. If the upgrade worked out around €200 - then yes, but €500 - not a chance tbh.
I've sold £650 worth of stuff to fund my next set of gadgets ha..

Note 4
Gear S
IPad 2
Note 3

Plan on selling note 12.2 in favour of a Macbook Air which I need for work as currently I have no computer
 
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GadgetSN

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Latest deal I have been offered from my carrier:

64gb Edge plus
Free fast wireless charger.
£50 upfront, £36 per month for 24m.
5gb data, unlimited calls and unlimited text.

I haven't bit yet.
 

MRU

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Latest deal I have been offered from my carrier:

64gb Edge plus
Free fast wireless charger.
£50 upfront, £36 per month for 24m.
5gb data, unlimited calls and unlimited text.

I haven't bit yet.

You have much better carrier offers in the UK than we do here.
 

The Game 161

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Latest deal I have been offered from my carrier:

64gb Edge plus
Free fast wireless charger.
£50 upfront, £36 per month for 24m.
5gb data, unlimited calls and unlimited text.

I haven't bit yet.
That's a damn good deal

I pay £55 a month but I do get unlimited everything
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Fondled this bad boy in BB tonight, holy crap I'm completely blown away. The Note 5 was very decent, but nothing compared to the edge. I think the iPhone is without a doubt the nicest smartphone from a hardware point of view, but I gotta say when I put it next to the edge the iPhone looked quite clunky. I was so tempted to pre order one, but I had just bought a surface pro 3 for my front desk girl and wasn't in the mood to spend more.

My concerns at this point are
1) battery life. I've gotten used to the iPhone 6 plus which keeps impressing me with battery life. My old Note 4 was very nice also on KitKat, but went downhill badly with Lollipop but still was more than adequate for an entire day of heavy use.
2) Crappy hardware. 3 generations of Note series and nothing but hardware issues with all of them, ugh. You all know I'm no fan of iOS but man stuff just works out of the box and keeps working with no questions asked. I'm just fed up with bad GPS, WiFi which can't hand off between cellular, distorted earpiece sound, crappy speaker, wimpy power button I press constantly in my pocket, etc etc. But holy crap it was nice.
3) Touchwiz, can I go back to the lag? In all fairness it was lightning quick when I messed around with it at BB. I was VERY impressed with double touching the home button and the camera came up instantly, in every sense of the work instantly. It made me very hopeful, although my Note 4's were all pretty fast out of the box and eventually slow down with a couple days of use.
4) Holy crap it was slippery. I hate using cases and I refuse to use them, I usually put on a full body protector skin. Maybe a matte one will provide more grip, but I think this is a negative for the curved screen. It's doable on the regular edge because it fits in your hand, but with the plus it's a bit scary. Also it seems like you will activate the edge functions often, using it one handed and reaching across I kept activating it, although I'm sure you can move it.

At the end of the day I'm pretty sure I'm going to grab one and play around with it, swap it back and forth with my iPhone, although I'm bummed Samsung used micro sim instead of nano sim. Samsung really outdid themselves. I dig the edge functions. Edge contacts is cool, but deeply flawed because it doesn't accept GSM codes (but neither do iOS widgets).

One thing, I think Samsung is commuting suicide by pricing this more than the iPhone, no matter how nice it is. Samsung just doesn't' have the pedigree or loyalty to think they can price it like that. $914 for the ATT 64gb versus $849 for the 6 plus 64gb. Samsung should have undercut Apple by $50 and priced it at $800. It's a beautiful phone, but I wonder who outside of the Apple world will pay almost a thousand bucks for a phone, especially one which will depreciate very quickly.
 

Zwhaler

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Jun 10, 2006
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After reading the S7 rumours I think I might wait for that instead, 5.5", hologram screen and especially if it comes by December/January like some of the rumors are reporting.
 

spriter

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Will be interesting to see how this bet plays out for Samsung.

At these prices is going squarely against the iPhone 6S Plus. It may work if former Note users but it as well as taking potential 6S customers who think there's not much change from the 6 Plus (Force Touch / 2GB RAM / CPU bump).

I don't doubt that it's a very nice phone but I'd want 64gb and £829 is just too much when I consider the other options and a plummeting resale value. Don't get me wrong - I really do think my 64gb S6 is fantastic in terms of build materials, performance and camera, and I like TW - mostly because it was £350. I'm just not sure what a near £500(!) outlay improves on.

I think Moto could be in for a good one or two quarters with the Style and Play coming in at 50%+ less.
 
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