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The article is misleading - its actually just regurgitating another article that importantly stated 'disabled or uninstalled'....

People are reading WAY too much into these articles because they want to.

Look at the articles source. One XDA post that admits disabled or uninstalled.

The first thing that I do when my best buy gets them is see if we can delete them!
 
So take a look at this. You can uninstall a tonne of third party apps on thy S6/S6 Edge.

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http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/23...axy-s6-and-the-galaxy-s6-edge-can-be-deleted/

That's just showing Google apps being deleted, and the couple Microsoft ones, which aren't too bad. But give me the option to delete all the Samsung crap bloat. Then we're talking.

Like all the duplicate crap Samsung makes, that Google already has. I would deleted like 90% of the Samsung apps that are baked in to Touchwiz, just let me choose which ones I want and don't want. I would keep the core Google apps, and delete almost everything Samsung.

That's why Root is so important for Samsung phones, so you can use Root Explorer and manually delete all that crap permanently.

But being on ATT, they lock it down so tight, even Root will take months to come by, and ATT will add even more bloat to the S6, with tons of their crappy apps too. So getting an ATT Galaxy S6 will be a nightmare phone, will have all the Samsung crap on it, and then like a dozen crappy ATT bloat as well, and none of it can be deleted. being on stock with no root.
 
The first thing that I do when my best buy gets them is see if we can delete them!

I'll get the aaahhs out of the way quickly and admire these lookers only for a short time but then I'll get down to business.

First thing afterwards I'm going to do is check memory management, I'll open a bunch of apps first and check memory and then I will cycle through them and check for refreshes as well. This is Lollipop and my Nexus 6 recycles on 5.0.

I best like my results or it might be sayonara S6. I already have a nice smartphone and I'll just wait till 5.1 gets pushed to me OTA and it would be sooner with the N6 if I experience any refreshes with the S6.

Then there is the bloatware. I don't care about not being able to get to the battery or no SD card or even the camera quality, that is all secondary versus bloat.

Like MRU, I ain't taking nothing for granted with initial reviews. Those made me interested in checking out the S6 in the first place but that is only the beginning of the story.
 
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First thing I'm going to do is check memory management, I'll open a bunch of apps and then I will cycle through them and check for refreshes.

I'll get the aaahhs out of the way quickly and admire these lookers only for a short time but then the get down to business.

I best like my results or sayonara S6.

Well the XDA poster who all these blogs are actually sourcing - says 2gb is used by system on clean boot and 1gb free to user.

Let us know if what you see tallies with this - and open 9-10 apps and see if they start having to refresh content please.
 
Well the XDA poster who all these blogs are actually sourcing - says 2gb is used by system on clean boot and 1gb free to user.

Let us know if what you see tallies with this - and open 9-10 apps and see if they start having to refresh content please.

Almost went to NYC yesterday to check out the S6 but that really was the only reason. It would have costed for transportation and dining out on top of things and it was just uncomfortably cool yesterday with the wind blowing hard so walking around in the city which I like to do would not have happened much.

It will have to wait till Friday at BB to see them. At least my blood will not boil till then if I don't like what I see. I have been disappointed before. :)
 
IMO the bloatware in Samsung phones (or LG phones, etc) is NOT the reason for the lag or worse memory management.

It's the optimization. IOS also has "bloatware" (apps like magazine, ibooks, stocks, watch apps, etc) but hasn't got that much lag or whatever.

It's all in the optimisation.

People can disable all the bloatware they want. It won't truly matter. Same happens with custom roms without the bloat. They aren't faster or better at memory management.


100% this.

I really don't even care about the extra Samsung apps or whatever bloatware, especially if you can disable and make them more or less disappear. That's more than you can say about Apple's bloatware on iOS, where you have to just relegate them to an "Apple Extras" folder (that's what I do on my 6). Every device has some bloatware to some degree, even stock Android, because it all depends on what apps the user wants to use.

The key is the optimization and memory management as mentioned here. And if TouchWiz is as optimized as Samsung promises, then I don't think there will be any problems. Reviews have all said TW is scaled back, less intrusive, less obvious, and optimized to the point of smooth as butter.

Looks promising. I'm not overly worried anymore about TW as much as I was a week ago.

Like I said in an earlier post, the biggest knock, I think, one can make against the S6 is the step back in battery life when comparing to the S5. But if it's rating slightly better than the iPh6, and given its Quick Charge/Wireless charging, and it's battery saving modes, I think I'll be just fine.

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Does Samsung actually sell unlocked, carrier free phones in the US? Save for the GPE S4, I don't recall being able to get completely unlocked phones as you could with HTC's unlocked or developer versions, or Moto'x unlocked versions of the X.


I'm not sure. This is the first Samsung device I've ever been seriously interested in. That would be unfortunate if they don't though! Everyone does, even Apple eventually. It would be a shame if Samsung didn't.

Does anybody know more definitively whether they'll sell unlocked devices? Maybe on their website?
 
Is there an official announcement on pricing in the US?

No, but contests have pegged the base version at $699, if I'm not mistaken.

I could live with that considering the technology that are in these beasts. The iPhone 6 is $650 unlocked for far less specs, half the storage space (16gb versus Samsung's default 32gb) and doesn't offer wireless charging, has a smaller/lower res screen, 1gb RAM, etc.

I could live with a $699 base device price.

The concern is... where to get it unlocked.
 
i got to try the s6 (non-edge version) over the weekend. whats up with the default browser? i always test theverge.com on phones just to see its speed and scrolling smoothness.

the thing kept having to redraw the screen whenever you scrolled something out of the viewport and then back in again. chunks of the site would turn blank white before showing up. don't know if its an android thing or touchwiz thing or what but it was annoying. doesn't happen on my 3 year old iphone 5.
 
i got to try the s6 (non-edge version) over the weekend. whats up with the default browser? i always test theverge.com on phones just to see its speed and scrolling smoothness.

the thing kept having to redraw the screen whenever you scrolled something out of the viewport and then back in again. chunks of the site would turn blank white before showing up. don't know if its an android thing or touchwiz thing or what but it was annoying. doesn't happen on my 3 year old iphone 5.

I've tried almost every major browser for Android. I'll tell you right now, from my own experience, samsung's browser is the smoothest hands down.
 
I'm not sure. This is the first Samsung device I've ever been seriously interested in. That would be unfortunate if they don't though! Everyone does, even Apple eventually. It would be a shame if Samsung didn't.

Does anybody know more definitively whether they'll sell unlocked devices? Maybe on their website?

I think the verizon developer editions are the only ones I've seen able to be directly purchased from samsung, other than the gs4 gpe.

nothing definitive though, we shall see
 
I've tried almost every major browser for Android. I'll tell you right now, from my own experience, samsung's browser is the smoothest hands down.

Yup. I agree with this. Their stock browser is so smooth, and by far, the best. I like how Chrome syncs everything to my computer, but it never runs right. It lags, skips around, and if I have too many tabs open, it crashes. The sammy one doesn't.
 
Yup. I agree with this. Their stock browser is so smooth, and by far, the best. I like how Chrome syncs everything to my computer, but it never runs right. It lags, skips around, and if I have too many tabs open, it crashes. The sammy one doesn't.


Yep Chrome also uses more memory too. I uninstalled Chrome on my N4 and kept Samsung Internet Browser only.
 
Yep Chrome also uses more memory too. I uninstalled Chrome on my N4 and kept Samsung Internet Browser only.

Agreed. Even on OS X, I stopped using it within the last few months. Even with 16gb of RAM on my rMBP, it can't keep up. Safari has significantly faster in everyday usage for me. God forbid one of the tabs crashes or something. The whole computer locks up for some time.

Chrome is so overrated.
 
Question! Does TouchWiz come with a call blocker feature?

I love that feature on my OnePlus. It helps block spam calls and texts, etc. Does TW have something similar baked in? I don't like using 3rd party options to accomplish blocking calls and texts.
 
Question! Does TouchWiz come with a call blocker feature?

I love that feature on my OnePlus. It helps block spam calls and texts, etc. Does TW have something similar baked in? I don't like using 3rd party options to accomplish blocking calls and texts.

Blocking mode ? Yes it has that. You can basically limit incoming calls to your contacts.

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Blocking mode ? Yes it has that. You can basically limit incoming calls to your contacts.

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Sweet. Thank you! Running out of excuses to buy the S6! :D

ACtually, follow up: can you block specific numbers only? Or is that only a "block all calls except your contacts" feature?
 
i got to try the s6 (non-edge version) over the weekend. whats up with the default browser? i always test theverge.com on phones just to see its speed and scrolling smoothness.

the thing kept having to redraw the screen whenever you scrolled something out of the viewport and then back in again. chunks of the site would turn blank white before showing up. don't know if its an android thing or touchwiz thing or what but it was annoying. doesn't happen on my 3 year old iphone 5.

I hope that this lag does not relate to exynos processors. I have the note 10.1 2014 (exynos edition) and does this redraw thing all the time (stock or Chrome ) whereas my friend has the snapdragon edition and has zero redraw or lag
 
Sweet. Thank you! Running out of excuses to buy the S6! :D

ACtually, follow up: can you block specific numbers only? Or is that only a "block all calls except your contacts" feature?

You can block a specific number by selecting it in your call history and hitting -auto reject' in menu .... This will effectively block that specific number (and others who you may have designated as auto-reject).

Blocking mode however works by blocking all - and then you define who you want to unblock.

You can approach it from either end ... ooo errr.
 
the system is not 10GB. Everyone knows a 64gb drive only has 59.6GB of actual storage (1000MB = 1GB instead of 1024MB = 1GB). So about 5.6GB is attributed to Touchwiz. It's not that much different than the iPhone 6 which has about 55GB left for the user.

Yeah that's not too bad so :)

Still it's not dramatically different to my Alpha which was 5.8gb however.

But still better than 10gb as I had presumed.
Still wonder what's going on with that French retail unit showing 15.26gb though - thats so way off base.
 
Yeah that's not too bad so :)

Still it's not dramatically different to my Alpha which was 5.8gb however.

But still better than 10gb as I had presumed.
Still wonder what's going on with that French retail unit showing 15.26gb though - thats so way off base.

Maybe the optional apps/features that you can download from the Samsung store counts as system apps. I have no clue what would take up an extra 14gb though.
 
You can block a specific number by selecting it in your call history and hitting -auto reject' in menu .... This will effectively block that specific number (and others who you may have designated as auto-reject).

Blocking mode however works by blocking all - and then you define who you want to unblock.

You can approach it from either end ... ooo errr.

:cool: Coolio. THanks again.
 
i got to try the s6 (non-edge version) over the weekend. whats up with the default browser? i always test theverge.com on phones just to see its speed and scrolling smoothness.

the thing kept having to redraw the screen whenever you scrolled something out of the viewport and then back in again. chunks of the site would turn blank white before showing up. don't know if its an android thing or touchwiz thing or what but it was annoying. doesn't happen on my 3 year old iphone 5.

It's the bloated Verge site since it does that, too, on my Windows tablet with IE and Chrome. It doesn't happen on the iPhone probably because it using the mobile site.
 
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