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I would love a premium nonphablet with stock android that gets updates (doesnt have to be nexus, but I'd love that). noncarrier device and bootloader unlockable, w/ wifi calling and volte support (if im leaving ios I want all the goodies and freedom)

Nobody makes that device, the HTC 10 may very well be that device, but I already gave up and bought a 6s when the jailbreak was available.. so maybe in two years (or I'd have to sell the 6S, which I'm not convinced of yet).

IMO even the guaranteed 2 years of nexus updates is too short nowadays. I'm not having really any issues with 6.0.1 cyanogenmod on my gs4, but I dont think custom unofficial software should be the norm for support on older devices. We should be beyond that now. Nothing goes 'obsolescent' in tech as fast as an android device

I do hope Nexus 5 will get N. It certainly can handle it. Hoping they are just left out of the beta only.
 
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I do hope Nexus 5 will get N. It certainly can handle it. Hoping they are just left out of the beta only.

all devices from that time period (and probably earlier, given that marshmallow runs on 1gb ram international moto e's - (USA moto e's, even unlocked noncarrier models, got the shaft here, another example of update nonsense)) could handle android N, heck performance and battery would probably improve across the board.. it is such a shame, so much potential.
 
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I would love a premium nonphablet with stock android that gets updates (doesnt have to be nexus, but I'd love that). noncarrier device and bootloader unlockable, w/ wifi calling and volte support (if im leaving ios I want all the goodies and freedom)

Nobody makes that device, the HTC 10 may very well be that device, but I already gave up and bought a 6s when the jailbreak was available.. so maybe in two/three years (or I'd have to sell the 6S, which I'm not convinced of yet).

IMO even the guaranteed 2 years of nexus updates is too short nowadays. I'm not having really any issues with 6.0.1 cyanogenmod on my gs4, but I dont think custom unofficial software should be the norm for support on older devices. We should be beyond that now. Nothing goes 'obsolescent' in tech as fast as an android device
I agree however the real shame is most are unaware and therefore less likely to force carriers and OEM's to change
 
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I believe so, yes. At the very least, the software buttons can be customized. Can the hardware capacitive buttons be, too? That's awesome if so.

Think so. They just have 2 dashes on either side as capacitive buttons, rather than signs for back and recent apps. Same with the OnePlus One I think.
 
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From what I have read so far from reviewers...i don't think you could go wrong with the HTC 10. It sounds like a good phone! :)

Seems good, but I don't think $600 is worth it for a phone especially now that the Nexus line does everything I was looking for more or less (Band 12, Wi-Fi Calling, VoLTE, Multi-Window, Quick-Charge, high end camera).

I truly appreciated what the S7 Edge did as a phone, but the price isn't worth it to me, so I parted ways with it for $750 including my VR headset, wireless charger, 8GB SD card, screen protectors, and case. It will go to better use since the person I sold it to was using an old Blackberry and iPhone 4 as their main devices.

I just like how much choice Android has because there is something for everyone. I will still probably buy the iPhone 7 Plus, but maybe not at launch. Hard to drop significant $ on phones these days when they're relatively similar and not so significant upgrades.
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Are you guys really that sensitive about updates, whilst I sympathize from my up to date S7 :) is it that really significant better smoother than had I not received the update that it would force me to consider lessor alternatives

Whilst I agree we are not typical users and have an above average interests and I have used many HTC devices even before when they were branded as Imate's, would you not be equally frustrated by these lessor spec devices.

Yes with Samsung. Their phones are often filled with annoying bugs at launch, so it really gets to annoy me when my keyboard screws up with the Edge screens. Furthermore, I have had Samsung for many generations. I have been screwed over w/ updates going through carriers. They also don't sell a fully unlocked device like HTC either.
 
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Seems good, but I don't think $600 is worth it for a phone especially now that the Nexus line does everything I was looking for more or less (Band 12, Wi-Fi Calling, VoLTE, Multi-Window, Quick-Charge, high end camera).

I truly appreciated what the S7 Edge did as a phone, but the price isn't worth it to me, so I parted ways with it for $750 including my VR headset, wireless charger, 8GB SD card, screen protectors, and case. It will go to better use since the person I sold it to was using an old Blackberry and iPhone 4 as their main devices.

I just like how much choice Android has because there is something for everyone. I will still probably buy the iPhone 7 Plus, but maybe not at launch. Hard to drop significant $ on phones these days when they're relatively similar and not so significant upgrades.
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Yes with Samsung. Their phones are often filled with annoying bugs at launch, so it really gets to annoy me when my keyboard screws up with the Edge screens. Furthermore, I have had Samsung for many generations. I have been screwed over w/ updates going through carriers. They also don't sell a fully unlocked device like HTC either.
I have own pretty much all the phones and am a gadget guy.

I have always carried two smartphones (sometimes there if working)

I took the Samsung test drive late last year with Galaxy s6 edge plus and the curve screen drove me crazy after a couple of days.

That's why I went for the regular s7 a couple of days ago. Got $200 Best Buy gift card trade in for my junk Windows Verizon Nokia lunia 822 that who's charging port was broken. So it was worthless. I managed to get the charged by holding it tight and pressing on it with a heavy book and left it alone until it was charged.

Or else I wouldn't have gotten the I s7.

I agree. I will get the iPhone 7 as well (also currently own iPhone 6S plus). I paid $850 plus taxes full price for it but this time will wait A couple of months. Last year all the stores around November were having $200-300 gift card promo for iPhones. Gift cards are like cash to me anyways.

So since att took away the subsides (I have old grandfather unlimited data plans). By the way it's still cheaper to stay with my current plans to to even with to direct tv unlimited data att promo (I have direct tv as well).

But since subsides are gone. It's in my best interest to game the att next installment game. Like I will intend to pay off my s7 next month anhways so will be eligible for att next promo again. And wait to November or so and get iPhone 7 for $200-300 gift card promos.

That way it lessens the impact of paying "full
Price for iPhones and samsungs.

Nexus 6p is like $499 msrp ($50 off this weekend).

So I can justify my Samsung Galaxy s7 by saying it cost me $694 (plus bogus $20 att next fee) plus taxes. Minus $200 gift card.

So my galaxy s7 cost me roughly $520 (factoring in gift card which is like cash to me)

That's how you play the game.

I have had the nexus 1-5. Skipped the past 2 nexus. Just something about nexus. Always missing something despite the fastest software update. The screen on the nexus 6p pales in comparison to (in my opinion) iPhone despite lower resolution. And Galaxy phones have great screens. Plus camera is getting much better but still a step below Galaxy and iPhones (in my opinion).
 
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Cannot say enough about the battery on my S7 edge. I am getting 6 to 7 hours SOT routinely. I never worry about getting through the day. I don't have to keep an eye on my battery and worry about if I have to get a charge on for it to last the day. It just lasts the whole day no matter what.

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Finally received my S7 Edge and restored the majority of my apps, initial impressions are positive so far.

The camera is slightly worse than the S6 in terms of resolved detail but slightly better in low light but I need to test further to really see what I can do with the S7's camera.

I picked up a Spigen Slim Armour case and a Ghost Armour screen protector for now. I usually hate wet apply protectors but every other one I tried raised up and peeled off minutes after being put into the case. This one is surprisingly smooth and fits perfectly with the case, there is a slightly noticeable resistance to gliding in comparison to glass but it's actually quite good. I'll see what the impressions are of the Zagg Glass when it finally arrives but I may actually end up keeping this one.

Battery life is still an unknown, I haven't had a chance to really push it yet as I've been fairly busy but I'll hopefully get a chance in a few days to see.

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Same as the S6/S6 edge but without the ram issue. It's less of the marmite OS it used to be and compared to LG's skin it's far more coherent imho :)
no issues with any lag then i imagine?

Everytime I look at youtube videos of the S7 edge i get blownaway by what it does. Been tempted for a while but not sure i should get it money wise. guessing with SD card slots it's ideal to only need a 32GB model.

in two minds save money over a large sum and buy on contract or buy sim only but costing more upfront.

can get a £37 a month deal on EE with 5 GB with £120 upfront
 
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no issues with any lag then i imagine?

Everytime I look at youtube videos of the S7 edge i get blownaway by what it does. Been tempted for a while but not sure i should get it money wise. guessing with SD card slots it's ideal to only need a 32GB model.

in two minds save money over a large sum and buy on contract or buy sim only but costing more upfront.

can get a £37 a month deal on EE with 5 GB with £120 upfront

Only lag I've had is more a missing animation glitch when you go into the home screen management first time - it will sometimes miss frames of animation and look a little jerky. But do it three or four more times after and it's perfectly smooth. So it's a software issue.

Likewise still smallest traces of lag when going in and out of briefing / news app ...
 
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Only lag I've had is more a missing animation glitch when you go into the home screen management first time - it will sometimes miss frames of animation and look a little jerky. But do it three or four more times after and it's perfectly smooth. So it's a software issue.

Likewise still smallest traces of lag when going in and out of briefing / news app ...
Anything you had to turn off when you got yours?
 
Anything you had to turn off when you got yours?

Just jumping in, I'd say S7 with the new TouchWiz and Marshmallow is more than just the S6 experience without the RAM issue. It's noticeably faster, smoother, and more stable. Even Hangouts -- notorious for lag -- runs smoothly on my S7 Edge. I've never seen Hangouts be as smooth as this. The fingerprint scanner is also noticeably faster and more reliable this time around, too. So getting in is quick, and everything after is also quick.

Regarding lag... nowadays, lag is virtually non existent in any flagship device, but, of course, lag will exist as it always does in any device; on the rarest of occasions. I think it's simply wrong to say "never lags" for any device, including iPhones, because it simply isn't true. But for all intents and purposes, the device is lag-free.

In short, the new TouchWiz + Marshmallow is a superb balance of TouchWiz's useful features and Marshmallow's speed and stability. It's the best iteration of Android I've ever used.
 
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Just jumping in, I'd say S7 with the new TouchWiz and Marshmallow is more than just the S6 experience without the RAM issue. It's noticeably faster, smoother, and more stable. Even Hangouts -- notorious for lag -- runs smoothly on my S7 Edge. I've never seen Hangouts be as smooth as this. The fingerprint scanner is also noticeably faster and more reliable this time around, too. So getting in is quick, and everything after is also quick.

Regarding lag... nowadays, lag is virtually non existent in any flagship device, but, of course, lag will exist as it always does in any device; on the rarest of occasions.

In short, the new TouchWiz + Marshmallow is a superb balance of TouchWiz's useful features and Marshmallow's speed and stability. It's the best iteration of Android I've ever used.
Thanks for that

I'm very tempted as having it as a 2nd phone. My iPhone 6s Plus will be my daily driver but wouldn't mind this.

Who else has the S7 edge as their 2nd phone?
 
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Thanks for that

I'm very tempted as having it as a 2nd phone. My iPhone 6s Plus will be my daily driver but wouldn't mind this.

Who else has the S7 edge as their 2nd phone?

Worth a shot.

Unless you prefer the counter option to it: the HTC 10. :)
 
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