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Surf Donkey

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hey I've liked tomshardware! it is a bit premature to talk about 2016 agreed

I do too, so it is a bit disappointing. And really doesn't make much sense. Perhaps they mean the great camera phones of all time?? Samsung S7 could be top for sure, but Sony and Lumia are glaringly missing then.
 
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that be me

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Might be asking this at the wrong time, but does anyone use myfitnesspal and a step tracker? Pacer seems to heat up my device and drains the battery while Acupedo doesn't count calories.

Will also post my thoughts of the s7 edge after being with the iPhone since the 3gs this weekend.
 

MRU

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Might be asking this at the wrong time, but does anyone use myfitnesspal and a step tracker? Pacer seems to heat up my device and drains the battery while Acupedo doesn't count calories.

Will also post my thoughts of the s7 edge after being with the iPhone since the 3gs this weekend.

I find third party app step trackers that rely on the devices pedometre will generally heat up the device as essentially they have to keep the cpu active to run in the background. Tbh for better heat & battery life you would be better with an external device that does the counting such as jawbone up or fitibit. Alternatively the xaoimi mi band 2 is a fitness tracker with a clock display and will be available in a few weeks for 30 bucks or less.
 
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nj1266

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I find third party app step trackers that rely on the devices pedometre will generally heat up the device as essentially they have to keep the cpu active to run in the background. Tbh for better heat & battery life you would be better with an external device that does the counting such as jawbone up or fitibit. Alternatively the xaoimi mi band 2 is a fitness tracker with a clock display and will be available in a few weeks for 30 bucks or less.

I run an external Withings watch step tracker that syncs continuously to their app. I also run my iPhone 6s Plus stock health app step tracker. The device never overheats. If a phone overheats from these simple tasks, then it is not a good phone.
 

that be me

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I find third party app step trackers that rely on the devices pedometre will generally heat up the device as essentially they have to keep the cpu active to run in the background. Tbh for better heat & battery life you would be better with an external device that does the counting such as jawbone up or fitibit. Alternatively the xaoimi mi band 2 is a fitness tracker with a clock display and will be available in a few weeks for 30 bucks or less.
Kind of disappointing there's no better solution, but not that big of a deal. Didn't think of how much I'd miss the MX processor of an iPhone.
 

epicrayban

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Just curious, what "damage to Android" have they done that you can't forgive? I was under the impression Samsung's success is a big part of Android's growth.

And when you say their carrier bs, do you mean Samsung's carrier bs? I'm not sure what that means either. Do you mean carrier bloatware? Because if so, Samsung isn't the only one that has carrier bloatware. Unless you mean something else?

Samsung has plenty to work on, but just not understanding these two things you've pointed out.

Edit: seems the mods edited away the post I was originally responding to from @Surf Donkey
 
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nj1266

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Kind of disappointing there's no better solution, but not that big of a deal. Didn't think of how much I'd miss the MX processor of an iPhone.

It is a huge deal. I should be able to use my phone to track my steps w/o the device overheating. This is such a simple task, the phone should not overheat from it. A lot of people trash talk the 1080p screen and less than perfect camera of the 6s plus but you grant the S7 a pass on overheating when logging a simple task such as steps.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Only time it should get hot is during high intense games so that's odd. Never heats up on mine when I'm doing walking/steps

Was going to say the same. And it doesn't heat up on intense games for me unless I'm gaming while the charger is plugged in.
 

MRU

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I run an external Withings watch step tracker that syncs continuously to their app. I also run my iPhone 6s Plus stock health app step tracker. The device never overheats. If a phone overheats from these simple tasks, then it is not a good phone.

That's the official native stock health app. They are far better optimised than third party apps. And on android when these cause your device to run warm, it is not same thing as overheats ;) They are just in my experience battery hungry.

I am not talking about native apps like s-health, just third party ones like runtastic which using a combo of the phones accelerometer to detect steps and some also use GPS to track location, will invariably cause the device to run a little warmer and depending on how optimised or rather unoptimised take a hit on battery life.

Again running warmer & being power hungry are not the same as overheating, just they will have a greater impact on the device over something like an external counter / activity tracker which is then only syncing to your device incrementally with Bluetooth low power.
 
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MRU

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S3 and its iteration of touchwiz were absolutely terrible..

The Galaxy S3 is actually the biggest selling Galaxy device of all time.

The S4, 5, 6, 7 have all sold far less ...

It shows how people's expectations from a device and moreover the plethora of choices we have now have affected phone sales compared to what were the 'heady' days back then. Even when software was iffy and improved greatly since.

Actually TW is only really beginning to break from its shackles since S6/7. The S4 TW was a mess of bloated features that caused the device to lag badly, I remember switching from the TW S4 to the Google Play Edition, the performance was night and day different. The S5 is best forgotten for more reasons than its software.

The S6 TW was first sign Samsung was starting to strip back TW but it was still bloated and had the ram issue (alleviated somewhat now with Marshmallow) and S7 has refined it more although still compared to other OS skins it does use up more ram resources by a significant margin. However at least with 4gb it curtails that heaviness somewhat.
 
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navaira

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The battery was horrible, it would discharge around 5-6pm. Later it would discharge around 3pm. The only way to prevent it was to switch off all features that were touted in adverts. It was unable to play music without stuttering until I got Poweramp and set it to largest buffer and highest priority. It spontaneously bricked at night and I lost all my contacts and had to restore them from my iPad. SD card would disconnect at random moments until I stuck a piece of paper on top of it. TouchWiz was gross and I haven't discovered Nova yet. Camera was just plain bad.

It's really a big thing for me to consider another Samsung phone after all that. But my brother switched from Z5 and looooves the S7. I've got a Z5c with 2 GB RAM and the memory management is terrible. I think I'll get an S7 when it's my time to upgrade, in August.
 

Fernandez21

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My theory is that S3 put a lot of people off Samsung phones. Well, that's what happened to me.
Yeah, I agree. That phone really rode the wave of great marketing but it just seemed like a bad phone to me. So glad the failure of the S5 really kicked Samsung in the butt and forced them to finally start making good phones again.
 

Mildredop

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The battery was horrible, it would discharge around 5-6pm. Later it would discharge around 3pm. The only way to prevent it was to switch off all features that were touted in adverts. It was unable to play music without stuttering until I got Poweramp and set it to largest buffer and highest priority. It spontaneously bricked at night and I lost all my contacts and had to restore them from my iPad. SD card would disconnect at random moments until I stuck a piece of paper on top of it. TouchWiz was gross and I haven't discovered Nova yet. Camera was just plain bad.

It's really a big thing for me to consider another Samsung phone after all that. But my brother switched from Z5 and looooves the S7. I've got a Z5c with 2 GB RAM and the memory management is terrible. I think I'll get an S7 when it's my time to upgrade, in August.
What are you on about? What is "it"? How is 3pm considered to be later that 6pm?

Your post makes no sense.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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S3 and its iteration of touchwiz were absolutely terrible. I've longed for an iPhone so bad. Nowadays Android is, to me, way better than iOS.

For that time period, the S3 was a good phone. Yes it was bloated like crazy, but I rarely had any lag issues. The biggest problem was the screen. It was too dim. Battery life was decent for me.
 

navaira

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What are you on about? What is "it"? How is 3pm considered to be later that 6pm?

Your post makes no sense.
Later = a few months later, as battery was giving up (after about a year of using – and having had the first one replaced). If I wanted to keep the phone I'd get a new battery but it frustrated me every single day.
 

nj-morris

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As far as I know the SD card slot is in the SIM card slot. Does that mean the phone forces you to restart when you want to expand your storage like it annoyingly does when you take out the SIM card on the S6?
 

The Game 161

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As far as I know the SD card slot is in the SIM card slot. Does that mean the phone forces you to restart when you want to expand your storage like it annoyingly does when you take out the SIM card on the S6?
You don't to take out your sim as the SD card slot is next to it so no you don't need to restart the phone
 

epicrayban

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I'm still not hearing how TouchWiz "damaged Android."

Isn't Samsung typically credited in large part for Android's success?
 
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