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Pssssst..... its an Apple Fanboy site. I would expect the mods to be the biggest of the fanboys
Well now your making assumptions for me. I never mentioned nor have watched this video, so I am not making statements concerning that.
As a poster below stated....show me the lag. Don't just make s statement and then proceed without proof. I haven't experienced lag. None, zero, and I didn't occasionally notice it on my note 5, but it never bothered me. It was rsre. Kind of like the random freezes in apps i would get on my 6s plus, or the rare but occasional crash on my 6p.
Give me a phone and I can find a problem. Give me a review and I can find the.opposite opinion. For every complaint about this phone and lag, there will be reviews calling it the fastest phone ever.
What matters is the real world experience. I don't see lag, I don't have multitasking problems, and I don't have stop watch problems. Used timers all morning again, running time sensitive experiments.
Do I need to point out a fault in this phone not to be labeled a blind fanboy? Sure...I can do that.
For some reason, I can't use multiple browsers to open differemr typr ofnlinks, like I could on my note 5 or 6p. It's one browser, all or nothing for some reason. Not a big deal....more like iOS in thsg regard I guess.
Another complaint. What the hell is up with the speaker? I remember hearing that Samsung put a more powerful speaker, and some tech sites made a big deal. It's true the speaker is more powerful. The notifications on this phone is so loud, if you have it turned up to max volume, and you're running through a burning building with fire sirens blaring, you're still going to hear your wife text you to tell you to pick up milk on the way home. But when playing music or podcast, the speaker volumes about equivalent to the note. Or not sure why there is that disparity, most likely a software thing.
So far the best phone I've owned, and like I've mentioned before alright up review when I feel like I've experienced it enough.
True. But then get rid of the sub-forum if you aren't going to be fair to both sides.Pssssst..... its an Apple Fanboy site. I would expect the mods to be the biggest of the fanboys
Real talk, the mods on this site are the worst.
Edit: patiently waiting for a mod to flag this post lol.
Yep I reported them. I have severed a 3 day timeout before for less than what these two guy have done in this thread. The moderation is really biased.
this is my favorite tech subforum on the web. don't really visit the other sections anymore so I don't know how it goes in those, but yea I agree only one side of the discussion really gets censored in here. I feel like I'm on the edge of being banned, due to past warnings etc.. which would be sad because I really do like it here.
Can the trolls go back to the iPhone section, and let us enlightened folks bask in the glory that is the S7edge.
I am not going to get drug into any flame war so do not bother.
I am not going to get drug into any flame war so do not bother.
The reality is, that 4gb of ram and 820 processor along with the cooling pipe, is keeping everything smooth. I personally don't care how much they have to put under the hood to keep things lag free, as long as the user experience is good. But IMO, Samsung still needs to work at sliming down TouchWiz.
Agreed, and I think they are making decent progress here.
This version of touchwiz is almost, dare I say it, delightful. It still needs a little slimming down, but I think that is my opinion rather then a criticism of the phone.
I think Samsung is approaching a balance of features and performance. Hopefully the updates to the 2015 flagship brings the improved touchwiz, and eliminates the drastic difference you see in each interation of touchwiz.
I found mods are reasonable to act on overly personal postings, pedrom just managed to stay on the line IMO
Had he/she some new and refreshing POV based on personal experience maybe we could of had a discussion but just the same old stuff followed by self vindication because most could not be bothered to reply to this old rhetoric, was the only enjoyable part
IMHO the speaker on the my N5 and 6s+ are better than my S7. I hate that i have to set the sound volume every time I out my headphones in. It doesn't warn me anymore.
Nope there is at least one that's a windows guyPssssst..... its an Apple Fanboy site. I would expect the mods to be the biggest of the fanboys
Yeah. Not sure what the deal is with the speaker volume. Isn't your notication volume ridiculously loud?
Maybe the speaker has the ability to get loud, but not the fidelity to sound good at loud volumes. Thsg could explain it, though I'd rather I just be s software bug.
If Samsung keeps it up at listening to what the consumers want, I have no doubt they will accomplish that balance. They basically succeeded at having the best hardware, design, and specs this time around.
That doesn't mean fairness and professionalism go out the door.Pssssst..... its an Apple Fanboy site. I would expect the mods to be the biggest of the fanboys
Wow... just wow..... is this trolling, the level of obsessive nonsense talk is usually reserved for one or two other members of the forum society. . (You know who you are)Can you expand on this, please? I'm really interested on what makes you think that.
Yeah, Apple makes a lot of bad decisions, and some users would buy whatever they sell, even potatoes. But it also happens with every brand that has some prestige, even Samsung. I can go on a limb here, and say that the vast, vast majority of high end phones being sold by Samsung (a number that keeps going down. This is a fact, not open for discussion) are to users that are inept, as far as anything tech-related goes.
Yes, Apple is behind on camera. Yes, right now, Samsung's displays are also the best. But how can you say that the company that made the mobile industry explode, makes their own OS, services and first party apps and built the most well supported and lucrative ecosystem in tech, designs their own SoCs that makes the 6s series king even when compared with the latest of the latest offerings on other platforms, supports their hardware the longest, is busy fighting for the privacy of their users and is the biggest supporter of encryption, was also the first to truly blow the memory performance of mobile devices out of the water with the 6s, is as lazy as you imply?
Some of their decisions can also be explained from a manufacturing/investment/costs/value point of view. Right now, Apple is the biggest seller of high end devices (with the biggest difference ever), also offers the most bang for the buck on the premium segment (and this makes your head spin... tough luck.), also makes the most money per handset sold, and keeps providing great experiences. Let them eat what they seeded for the last 15 years.
I'm very close to get my masters in Mechanical Engineering in the absolute best University of my country. My degree is well respected around the world, and regardless of the situation in this country I have open doors elsewhere. I earned my degree. Very few of the my "colleagues" in primary school even got the equivalent of the 12th grade. By all standards present in first world countries, I'm poor. And it pisses me off.
As such, since I like technology so much, and inform myself about it so much, I'm very careful with my purchases. Mind you, you are not talking with some ignorant that will have an erection for number of cores or megapixels count. What matters for me in a product is:
- How good is the software available for the platform;
- How good is the dev support and tools available (that way, I have an indication of how good the software available for that platform will be. Replacing cycles are getting longer, so this becomes even more important as time goes by.);
- How good is 1st party support (updates, ability to fix issues, improvements, security, privacy, encryption);
- What can I take away from the software + hardware combo (Real world performance, like exporting video, games, oommmpphhh for newer OSes and software, etc.);
- New useful products and ideas;
- Engineering behind the product;
- Design;
- Price;
- Market trends, that allow us better "guess" how the platform will fare in the future. (Replacing cycles are getting longer, so this becomes even more important as time goes by.)
Let's start from the bottom to the top:
- Market trend clearly states, without doubt, that Apple buried the competition in the high end market, as far as sales goes, and now the difference is huge. Even with the expected slightly drop in sales for the next few quarters, that difference will still rise (Sales =/= active user base. Android OEMs are also dropping faster in high end sales. Samsung ASP is dropping like a rock, just like their profits of the mobile division.);
- The 6s and 6s Plus are priced competitively, against the respective competition. Same for retina Macbooks Pros, Workstations, iPads and so on. Meanwhile, for the same price, Apple software is way more capable and affordable;
- Apple has a fantastic design philosophy. Some amateurish things like the ports on the latest Samsung devices, that also borrow a lot from the look of iPhones, makes them a no-go, for me;
- Some people have trouble swallowing this, but the fact is that even when Apple isn't the direct inventor of something, they are the ones that make the product viable for competition by bringing the tech to the market in enough numbers, with the best implementation. See high PPI displays, aluminium and magnesium in laptops, laptops in general, high precision trackpads, fingerprint scanners, GUI, Mouse, you name it;
- Google Talk/hangouts/messages/ChatON is a stupid useless mess. iMessage was revolutionary and a fantastic product. Another example? Apple pay. Touch ID.
- With iMovie and the A9 chip, I can export a video 10x faster on an iPhone than any single Android device (tablet, phone, console, TV). Not exaggerating. On screen graphical performance, the only one that matters, is also 30% and more higher than the latest of the latest Android offerings. For evidence, see the latest youtube video of the biggest irrational Android fanboy disguised as reviewer, Austin Evans.
- Apple's support is unmatched. Apple apps like iMovie, iMessage, App Store, Mobile Safari also bring value that any other mobile platform can't match;
- iOS has the best apps as exclusives or iOS-first. Most users have the latest APIs available. Since Apple provides the best tools, users use the latest OSes, the hardware is uniform, we know why dev interest is so much higher in iOS. Even Google's interest for iOS makes Android look like a second class citizen, like it is.
- If you do like everybody else is doing, and buy flagship devices based on ecosystem, Android isn't even an option. It is non-existent in good tablets and can't compete with iOS + Mac on any level.
So, if you don't mind, I would like you to explain how someone like me is irrationally devoted, and how Apple doesn't "try". In fact, explain to me and to my colleagues, medical doctors, engineers, lawyers, casual users, pilots, pharmacists, software engineers, Google engineers, NASA engineers are all so devoted and foolish.
Did you go to a Microsoft conference, lately? What were the most used devices? Google conference? Linux conference?
I'm really curious. About your (and anyone else) answer. For me it's pretty obvious why the high end market was steamrolled and is now completely controlled by Apple, both on mobile and on the desktop. Yes, while that translates to less than 20% market share globally, it translates a lot more for first world countries and not only makes iOS the best platform, it also makes Apple the most successful public traded company of all time.
Also, as important, Apple's approach means that any new industry iOS enters, it will leave Android as nothing more than a cheaper, less relevant, less successful, option.
I'm open for a nice conversation, and I will answer to thoughtful posts, but not fanboyish rants. I don't care about those and I won't play that game with the usual suspects.
So, again, despite having a slightly better screen on pretty much any metric (that advantage will quickly disappear, as sales of galaxies drop so much and Apple becomes the savior of Samsung display) and a slightly better camera, how can someone actually buy and recommend the S7, on rational metrics? You just lose so much.
Samsung could sell a potato and the typical Galaxy buyer would buy that instead of an iPhone. They got no reason to really try anymore.
Have a nice day.
Oh they have "timed-out" me many times for picking on the Apple crazies. They are super heavy handed. But the site is called "MacRumors". I would expect nothing less. And really, who cares? It is just a forum about phones and computers.
Fool me once Samsung.... when the reviews come out that say the Touchwiz is actually optimized and lag free, I can't wait to try it again. And I don't trust any opinions in here. I just don't. Anyone says anything against the phone, you people pounce. This bias is just far too high (but again, understand, it is a Samsung fan thread). The reviews are saying it is there, and I trust that more.
I guess it's sentences like "you people" that get everyone rallied up. Our experiences are what they are.
I'm the first to tell you the problems with the phones I have owned. I am sure something will surface for this phone too, but it hasn't yet.
I don't blame you for trusting reviewers. But I do scoff at some of the things reviewers do, that people on here hold up has vindication for their views.
The 12 app multitasking test is a perfect example. It's useless in real life scenarios. It's not like the s7 refreshes apps at the 4 app stage, it does a few apps quicker then the 6p. Also, you can't compare iOS and Android multitasking, very well, for reason I have detailed.
Saying my phone can cycle through 12 apps, twice, quicker and thus is superior is about as ridiculous as me respond with "well I can play a match of hearthstone underwater with my s7". Neither examples matter in real life.
Oh, come on, it's not a POS
Do.you Really expect any one on here to believe that one of the biggest apple loyalists actually Bought an S6? Stop trolling pal..
Dammit got my Moto 360 in preparation of getting s7 tomorrow but they sent me the ladies band. I can't even wrap it around my wrist. Gonna have to spend a few days smart watchless waiting for manly band to arrive
I agree, the speed tests are stupid and are about as useful as our presidential candidates bragging about dick size. But a stopwatch app (yes it was a third party one, to keep them all the same between platforms) closing was troubling. Perhaps it is just a bug in the app with the latest SOC or something.
That said, I don't think anyone here is testing fairly either. Look at the list of packages and bloat that have been disabled in this thread! The fact that there is even a pretty much mandatory app called "package disabler" is kind of crazy. No wonder people who try to switch to Android get frustrated so quickly. That should not have to be a part of setting up your phone to make it run smooth and reflects poorly on the Android experience. It is like the Ask Jeeves toolbar being packaged with Java by default frustrating.
So if you guys all have debloated phones, it won't compare with what the reviewers are running (which rightfully it should not). So it is hard to trust the reviews here. (and sorry I said 'you guys' again).
I agree with you here. But, granted, all I disabled if the free T-Mobile apps. I don't disable anything else. Not telling what will effect the phone. My phone is as close to how Samsung intended it as can be. There is no getting around the ridiculous control carries have with bloatware. IPhone and Nexus devices are free of this.
It seems like you are really trying hard to put out a rational argument, but at the same time I can't help but feel you come across a little bit in the way you describe others in this thread. The bolded part in what you said makes me feel that way. Apple's design has compromises, to say it doesn't is silly at best. At the same time Galaxy devices have improved and had less and less compromises with each cycle. If anything, even after extolling the virtues of the iPhone, I feel it has way more compromises than a galaxy phone, especially something as powerful and functional as my Note 5. Once again not taking anything away from the iPhone. Also once again that is based on how I use my phone.
Geez, I leave you guys alone for one day.....
Sorry, didn't read all that has been posted today, but in regards to person who posted about the headphone, charger, and speaker ports not lining up at the bottom. The reason the ports don't line up is not because Samsung lacks design chops or attention to detail, but instead because Apple cares so much about design they are willing to buy more expensive custom parts so they line up, while Samsung just uses off the shelf parts and uses that money else where on the phone (say by having 32gb the base or adding waterproof). Neither strategy is right or wrong, just different.
Sorry, didn't read all that has been posted today, but in regards to person who posted about the headphone, charger, and speaker ports not lining up at the bottom. The reason the ports don't line up is not because Samsung lacks design chops or attention to detail, but instead because Apple cares so much about design they are willing to buy more expensive custom parts so they line up, while Samsung just uses off the shelf parts and uses that money else where on the phone (say by having 32gb the base or adding waterproof). Neither strategy is right or wrong, just different.