Come on, a very similar thing could have been said of the red wedding, and yet it was a big surprise for most of the people watching the show. Only we, the obsessed ones, prowling internet forums and commenting on them, are aware of this theory.
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Come on, a very similar thing could have been said of the red wedding, and yet it was a big surprise for most of the people watching the show. Only we, the obsessed ones, prowling internet forums and commenting on them, are aware of this theory.
I liked it...
I didn't expect Sansa to reach Castle Black that quickly, but I'm glad she did. It was great watching her convince Jon to fight for Winterfell, and the interaction between Brienne and Melisandre was fun.
I also liked the scenes with Tyrion, Grey Worm, and Missandei more than last week's. Let's see what Dany thinks about Tyrion's offer when she returns to Mereen.
As for the final scene, it was obvious something was up, so I wasn't surprised that Dany found a way out. But I expected the dragons (or at least Drogon) to appear. The way she did it was a bit too easy and quick. I guess that Dany's now heat- and fire-proof. She held the sides of the metal fire lamps without any problem, and walked out through the inferno that apparently incinerated her clothes. I guess fire resistance is good when your kids are fire-breathing.
Next week looks interesting, too.
I also liked the scenes with Tyrion, Grey Worm, and Missandei more than last week's. Let's see what Dany thinks about Tyrion's offer when she returns to Mereen.
As for the final scene, it was obvious something was up, so I wasn't surprised that Dany found a way out. But I expected the dragons (or at least Drogon) to appear. The way she did it was a bit too easy and quick. I guess that Dany's now heat- and fire-proof. She held the sides of the metal fire lamps without any problem, and walked out through the inferno that apparently incinerated her clothes. I guess fire resistance is good when your kids are fire-breathing.
Next week looks interesting, too.
Finally, Sansa and John are reunited! The scene almost brought tears to my eyes. Now Littlefinger's army and John's wildling army can move on Winterfell. Once they kill Ramsay, will Sansa forgive Littlefinger? Probably. She's still naive enough to believe he didn't know that he was handing her over to a monster.
I think my favorite part, though, was the dinner scene where the red-headed wildling leader whose name I can't remember, was eyeing Brienne. I suspect it's the first time she ever felt eyes on her as a woman, and it clearly made her uncomfortable.
I think my favorite part, though, was the dinner scene where the red-headed wildling leader whose name I can't remember, was eyeing Brienne. I suspect it's the first time she ever felt eyes on her as a woman, and it clearly made her uncomfortable.
Little Finger is a little weasel that would do anything to get out of jam. I don't think it will be an easy victory over Ramsey for he'll do anything to win. A desperate enemy is a dangerous enemy.
In general, a solid A.
Great scene, FYI, that's been a known "attribute" of hers since [I believe] S1
Hahaha, that was amazing, Tormund had the "A huge warrior woman, this I like!" look in his eye
Great scene, FYI, that's been a known "attribute" of hers since [I believe] S1
Hahaha, that was amazing, Tormund had the "A huge warrior woman, this I like!" look in his eye
Best episode of the season thus far. The stage is being set for the wars to come and I like how its shaping up. My favorite scene was the ending when Daenerys took charge of the Dothraki and burned them all up and walked out unscathed. A proven method of hers to take charge of a mass of people and get them to follow her.
I agree. Great episode. Definitely was not expecting Dany to take the Dothraki like that (instead I assumed she'd somehow escape), but I'm glad she didn't rely on her dragons to do so. According to GRRM, she's not completely immune to fire, so it looks like the show might be taking her in a different direction. I also loved the reunion scene between Jon and Sansa.
My one fault with the show at this point would be how little screen time is assigned to each storyline. Given the myriad stories happening concurrently, I suppose its unavoidable in a <1-hour episode, but it would be nice to get more than just a glimpse each week.
My one fault with the show at this point would be how little screen time is assigned to each storyline. Given the myriad stories happening concurrently, I suppose its unavoidable in a <1-hour episode, but it would be nice to get more than just a glimpse each week.
Agreed. I was expecting her to escape or have the dragons that Tyrion set free to help her. BTW, its been a couple of episodes since he did that... What are they up to?
Also agreed. I was making that point after last weeks episode as well. This week's was about 75 minutes total, but still, I'd like to see more time allotted for the show. There's just so many arch's to follow that I sometimes forget things.... Like today I was trying to remember where Theon calls home after he said he wanted to go there.
That's precisely why this a great binge series. It's hard to wait a whole week--and then a whole 10 months--to get another morsel of a storyline. At the beginning of the season I considered waiting until the end to watch the whole season at once but didn't trust that I wouldn't find out spoilers ahead of time.
As you say, there's not much they can do with only 10 hours per season (actually, a bit less). That's why I tend to get a little impatient with some slow-moving parts. Lately, the scenes where the High Sparrow has conversations with Tommen and Margaery have felt that way, though I know they're probably important to the storyline.
Just caught up, binge watched the first 4 episodes. Wow, just great especially John Snow who was dead, and the fire scene with Daenerys, gave me chills. Sorry to see the end for the girl who was watching over Rickon. I really wanted her to kick Ramsey Bolton's ass, but it could'nt be that simple. Finally, a humble Red Woman.
Tormund Giantsbane- second to Manse Raider?
Finally, a humble Red Woman. Tormund Giantsbane- second to Manse Raider?
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Since the show is pulling ahead of the books, and has been forking the story, how will this influence how GRRM goes forward? If he was slow before GoT came to tv, won't this add additional hesitance on his part as he tries to compete with the HBO version?
Just caught up, binge watched the first 4 episodes. Wow, just great especially John Snow who was dead, and the fire scene with Daenerys, gave me chills. Sorry to see the end for the girl who was watching over Rickon. I really wanted her to kick Ramsey Bolton's ass, but it could'nt be that simple.
If there were any doubt that Ramsay Bolton is Game of Thrones' most malevolent character, his killing of Osha and then wiping off the knife to continue cutting his apple did it for me. When his time comes, I hope Sansa's the one to do him in. I'd also like to see her eventually assume the leadership of Winterfell, though that would be out of line with the tradition of the title of Lord going to male Stark family members.
This is one of my real issues with the show versus book which seriously alters the story and changes the nature of Little Finger for the worse. Now could that have happened in the next book, if it is ever published? I suppose.
Regarding LF- In the book, it was a fake Sansa that Ramsey had, and everyone knew it besides, he was in love with her Mother, Catelyn Stark and since he could not have the Mother, he seemed content to have the daughter. In the book as I remember, she was last seen in the company Little Finger posing as his nease (I think). This link,discusses it.
It will be apropos if he is eaten by his dogs.
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Agreed. The dragon felt a little deus ex machina the first time, would've been silly if it had happened again.
I don't love the fire thing. Didn't they show her getting burned on something in the past? I was under the impression the blood sacrifice of the witch (life pays for life) is what let her survive the fire the first time. I guess she is just immune now?
I don't think this will affect him at all. He's 20 years invested in this series already, I doubt anything on the show alteres his mindset.
If anything I think it might speed him up. He's blogged about writer's block induced by the deadlines the show was imposing on him... With that concern over he's free to just write.
My understanding is that he consults on the tv show and has probably provided them with his story outline. I'm wondering if the books will ever be published. From a $$ perspective, GRRM is probably set for life, so we can speculate about how motivated he now is to complete the book series. It seems that this has been a bad precedence for an author with an incomplete book series.
My complaint in general is when a show or movie is created based on a hit book series and producers turn it into something else. True Blood was the worst in this regard completely going off the rails. In GoT, many details have been changed, (who did what, where) and entire sections of the original story have been deleted, but it's still very watchable.
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The Targaryians refer to themselves as Dragons, descended from dragons, who can't be harmed by fire. Her brother thought he was The Dragon, but obviously was not. Her first exposure to fire that I remember was at her husband's funeral pyre which established her as unburnable, hatched her babies, and established her as The Mother of Dragons. (However, in the book, her hair is burned off by fire.) It's one of the foundations of the story and the timing to remind us of this quality was perfect IMO.
My complaint is that Danearys has these dragons but so far has not taken the time to master them, turning them into the potent weapons they could be. It's arguable, that she has so many balls in the air, her dragons were put on the back burner. Just think how much more potent she'd be if she'd gotten a handle on them sooner. But from a story standpoint, maybe that would have been too predictable.
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The Targaryians refer to themselves as Dragons, descended from dragons, who can't be harmed by fire. Her brother thiught he was The Dragon, but obviously was not. Her first exposure to fire that I remember was at her husband's funeral pyre which established her as unburnable, hatched her babies, and established her as The Mother of Dragons. It's one of the foundations of the story and the timing to remind us of this quality was perfect IMO.
I believe it's the very first episode of season one, when Dany's brother tells her he's marrying her off to Khal Drogo, that she gets into the hot bath and her handmaid tells her it's still too hot but she's unaffected. Also, in a later episode, after putting the dragon eggs onto coals and pulling them out she is unaffected but her handmaiden suffers a bad burn. I don't recall seeing anything where she has been burned or affected by heat/fire. According to the TV series, she very well may be completely immune.
Outstanding attention to detail I had forgotten. In the book, her hair does not survive fire.
I thought I'd seen this before.
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It helps to rewatch the series from the beginning.Outstanding attention to detail I had forgotten.
I thought I'd seen this before.
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It helps to rewatch the series from the beginning.
I really liked that story!
Here is an interesting discussion: http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/9356/is-daenerys-targaryen-immune-to-fire
Looks like @giantfan1224 has the details right. On the topic of general immunity, however, here is a Q&A where GRRM answers this directly... but either he was holding back spoilers, or the show has deviated on this point:
Looks like @giantfan1224 has the details right. On the topic of general immunity, however, here is a Q&A where GRRM answers this directly... but either he was holding back spoilers, or the show has deviated on this point:
That's interesting and curious. Maybe GRRM was practicing misdirection or had not fleshed out the story to today's progress. You'd think after an experience like that, Daenerys might check her fire proof status on occasion. It would be easy to do.
You'd think after an experience like that, Daenerys might check her fire proof status on occasion. It would be easy to do.
And it'd be such a cool party trick.