Game of Thrones (HBO)

[ApfelKuchen]

I don't see much of a dilemma for Brienne as she has seen that Arya is more than able to protect herself.

Maybe. However, Brienne treats this as an absolute commitment. She didn't pledge to "Protect Caitlyn's daughters, if they seem to need protection."

I could see an opposite scenario: After much deliberation, Brienne decides that Sansa is surrounded by a strong fortress and thousands of loyal troops, while Arya is about to go out into the wild, alone. Arya declines Brienne's offer of protection - after all, it's hard to sneak around King's Landing when you're in the company of an Amazon in bright armor.

 

[Roller]

Yeah, the incest children plot line may feel tired to us, but it's been no more than a dirty rumor around Westeros. If Cersei actually does go public with this, the reaction around King's Landing might be worth viewing. For that matter, Euron Greyjoy may not take too kindly to it; hell hath no fury like a Euron scorned!

Extinction of Great Houses (or not-so-great, in the case of the Freys) is also feeling tired. Well, extinction in general. Since it's time for the Living to rise up against the Dead, shouldn't there be enough Living left to win the war?

All Cersei said was that she would tell everyone that Jamie is the father, but that hasn't been explicitly confirmed. I wouldn't have put it past her to have slept with Euron, too. That would fit with Qyburn's conversation with Cersei just before he left her room: He says "I could give you something" and she responds "That won't be necessary." What if he was offering a way to end the pregnancy, which would be more likely if Euron was the father? On the other hand, maybe he was just going to give her a potion to treat nausea.

The Jon Targaryen clues are getting stronger with each episode. His interaction with Drogon, for one. I know that Tyrion also visited the dragons in season 6 and didn't get eaten or cooked, but there's a theory that he's part Tagaryen. If that's true, we may eventually see the three dragons ridden into battle by Dany, Jon, and Tyrion.

Gilly's discovery that High Septon Maynard granted Rhaegar an annulment is also significant because it means that Jon isn't a bastard and may have a stronger claim to the Iron Throne than his aunt Dany.

 

[ApfelKuchen]

All Cersei said was that she would tell everyone that Jamie is the father, but that hasn't been explicitly confirmed. I wouldn't have put it past her to have slept with Euron, too. That would fit with Qyburn's conversation with Cersei just before he left her room: He says "I could give you something" and she responds "That won't be necessary." What if he was offering a way to end the pregnancy, which would be more likely if Euron was the father? On the other hand, maybe he was just going to give her a potion to treat nausea.

The Jon Targaryen clues are getting stronger with each episode. His interaction with Drogon, for one. I know that Tyrion also visited the dragons in season 6 and didn't get eaten or cooked, but there's a theory that he's part Tagaryen. If that's true, we may eventually see the three dragons ridden into battle by Dany, Jon, and Tyrion.

Gilly's discovery that High Septon Maynard granted Rhaegar an annulment is also significant because it means that Jon isn't a bastard and may have a stronger claim to the Iron Throne than his aunt Dany.

Considering the way Cersei dealt with Euron in public (where it seems obvious she's stringing him along), I'd put the chances of a "private audience" to be less than 50%. I didn't hear that line from Qyburn, but I think she'd be far more likely to want to end a Euron pregnancy (which would give him a hold on Cersei even if the war is lost) than a Jaime pregnancy. The Lannister name must go on!

Speaking of Uron, just where was the navy when the Dothraki were landed to attack the spoils caravan? Don't you think they'd be busy blockading Dragonstone when they don't have better things to do? Should have made it tough for Jon to come and go.

 

[skinsone]

Cersei must have a hair stylist serving Westros cause her hair never grows. And when do the all guys have time to shave and keep their beards trimmed?

I had to laugh because the characters all seem to be in the same clothes every episode, Cersei has changed outfits when required.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Considering the way Cersei dealt with Euron in public (where it seems obvious she's stringing him along), I'd put the chances of a "private audience" to be less than 50%. I didn't hear that line from Qyburn, but I think she'd be far more likely to want to end a Euron pregnancy (which would give him a hold on Cersei even if the war is lost) than a Jaime pregnancy. The Lannister name must go on!

Speaking of Uron, just where was the navy when the Dothraki were landed to attack the spoils caravan? Don't you think they'd be busy blockading Dragonstone when they don't have better things to do? Should have made it tough for Jon to come and go.

Would you send your navy to blockade Dragonstone in wooden ships with three dragons in residence? I'd not advise it if I was your hand!

 

[ApfelKuchen]

Would you send your navy to blockade Dragonstone in wooden ships with three dragons in residence? I'd not advise it if I was your hand!

Well played, Hand!

So... Would they return to the Iron Islands, now that winter is here? Now you have me worrying about the safety of Meereen.

 

[Roller]

Considering the way Cersei dealt with Euron in public (where it seems obvious she's stringing him along), I'd put the chances of a "private audience" to be less than 50%. I didn't hear that line from Qyburn, but I think she'd be far more likely to want to end a Euron pregnancy (which would give him a hold on Cersei even if the war is lost) than a Jaime pregnancy. The Lannister name must go on!

Maybe so, but I can't help wondering if there's something weird about this pregnancy (other than the fact that it may have resulted from Cersei's incestuous relationship.) In fact, she may be using the pregnancy to keep Jaimie in check. He's growing increasingly wary of his sister, and her admonition not to cross her again only adds to that. In any case, we may have to wait until season 8 to see where that part of the story goes.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Well played, Hand!

So... Would they return to the Iron Islands, now that winter is here? Now you have me worrying about the safety of Meereen.

Dragon proof ships are hard to come by!

 

[Channan]

The Jon Targaryen clues are getting stronger with each episode. His interaction with Drogon, for one. I know that Tyrion also visited the dragons in season 6 and didn't get eaten or cooked, but there's a theory that he's part Tagaryen. If that's true, we may eventually see the three dragons ridden into battle by Dany, Jon, and Tyrion.

I always liked the idea of that, but it just sounded a little too far fetched to actually happen.

Now we know that’s obviously not going to happen since

Spoiler

the Night King has already killed one of the dragons. And it makes total sense why it was Viserion, story-wise. Drogon was named after Dany's late husband and was her favorite, and Rhaegal was named after Jon's father, so that will be his. No dragons left for Tyrion so he's definitely not a Targaryen.

 

[fitshaced]

Anyone know if the Mad King was burned after being killed. If not, I predict Danaerys or John having to face him as a white walker.

 

[AlliFlowers]

Anyone know if the Mad King was burned after being killed. If not, I predict Danaerys or John having to face him as a white walker.

Now that's an interesting twist!

 

[Apple fanboy]

I'd like to see (Ned Stark back). So he can finish that conversation with John Snow.
But pretty sure his head is missing!

 

[Huntn]

Anyone know if the Mad King was burned after being killed. If not, I predict Danaerys or John having to face him as a white walker.

Not impossible, but unlikely. Wasn't he killed in Kings Landing? Besides, White Walkers as I understand it are a race of humanoid creatures created by Children of the Forest that live in the frigid North. This as compared to Wights which are reanimated dead controlled by White Walkers. So if he had died North of the Wall he could of been turned into a Wight, but still would be a mindless pawn doing their master's bidding.

White Walker

Creation of White Walkers
The White Walkers are thousands of years old, from the time preceding the Age of Heroes. Born of powerful and untested magic, they were created to protect the Children of the Forest from the First Men, who had waged war on them ever since they had arrived from Essos. However, the White Walkers eventually broke free of the Children's control and became the most feared creatures in Westeros, posing a threat to anything living.

White Walkers vs Wights

 

[fitshaced]

Not impossible, but unlikely. Wasn't he killed in Kings Landing? Besides, White Walkers as I understand it are a race of humanoid creatures created by Children of the Forest that live in the frigid North. This as compared to Wights which are reanimated dead controlled by White Walkers. So if he had died North of the Wall he could of been turned into a Wight, but still would be a mindless pawn doing their master's bidding.

White Walker

Creation of White Walkers
The White Walkers are thousands of years old, from the time preceding the Age of Heroes. Born of powerful and untested magic, they were created to protect the Children of the Forest from the First Men, who had waged war on them ever since they had arrived from Essos. However, the White Walkers eventually broke free of the Children's control and became the most feared creatures in Westeros, posing a threat to anything living.

White Walkers vs Wights

Ah ok. Then I'd like to change my prediction to Jorah Mormont becoming a Wight and killing Danaerys.

 

[Huntn]

Ah ok. Then I'd like to change my prediction to Jorah Mormont becoming a Wight and killing Danaerys.

 

[Huntn]

Season 7: Ep 6 Beyond the Wall- Still hardcore expedited story telling, but wow. The second time they've shown someone in a position where they should have drowned, but somehow they don't. The aftermath of the Battle at the Frozen Lake was shocking.

 

[zmunkz]

That was a fantastic episode, and the best of the season so far.

Spoiler: episode 6

The Dany / Jon dynamic has developed faster than I'd expected, but it is working for me. The dragon incident was predictable but in a very omfg/satisfying way. Also the thin-ice thing was a clever way to excuse the way they didn't all attack at once.

The only thing that bothered me was it seemed random people appeared in their small band each time someone needed to be killed.

 

[D.T.]

Sure! I mean, I guess it's not a spoiler per se, I saw a promo poster that showed the Night King on what looked like a dragon (breathing ice). I was thinking if somehow the dragon falls to the army of the undead it might get zombified - which would be both badass and horrific.

 

[fitshaced]

Yeah really good episode.

I think Arya has become a very boring character. I understand that the part is very straight and plain but I don’t think it’s great acting.

That main White Walker is a seriously cool bad guy.

Also, sending a raven is very much like sending a text message. I wonder do they have annoying spam ravens offering deals on bowls of brown.

 

[Roller]

Yeah really good episode.

I think Arya has become a very boring character. I understand that the part is very straight and plain but I don’t think it’s great acting.

I'm not as much bored by Arya as puzzled. I get that she questions her sister's motives and that there's a continuation of their childhood sibling rivalry. But Arya's interaction with Sansa was creepy in a Littlefinger-ish way.

Aside from the obvious great moments in last night's episode, two things caught my attention:

1. The banter between the men in Jon's expedition to retrieve a wight: I especially liked Tormund and The Hound's exchange about Brienne.

2. IIRC, there were two times when Dany's inability to bear an heir was mentioned, once with Tyrion and again with Jon. That's going to be important.

Can't believe there's only one episode left and then we have to wait at least a year...

 

[Strider64]

What I don't understand is Arya is supposed to be this stealth kind of person, yet Littlefinger one up her in the department. Another thing Arya not even suspecting Littlefinger in the slightest is puzzling to me.

It's going to be an interesting season finale next week.

 

[fitshaced]

Ah crap, I thought there were two left.

 

[D.T.]

What I don't understand is Arya is supposed to be this stealth kind of person, yet Littlefinger one up her in the department. Another thing Arya not even suspecting Littlefinger in the slightest is puzzling to me.

It's going to be an interesting season finale next week.

I'm assuming a double reverse con on her part.

 

[zmunkz]

I'm assuming a double reverse con on her part.

I dunno, she seems like a straight shooter to me. If she suspected little finger already, I don't think she'd play games. She's been in Bravos and as much as she's learned about stealth, she isn't used to dealing with the parasites of Westeros politics.

What is she up to though? It is almost like she's trying to decide if her sister has changed or not... But to what end? She wouldn't kill her. What would the point of that be?

 

[D.T.]

I dunno, she seems like a straight shooter to me. If she suspected little finger already, I don't think she'd play games. She's been in Bravos and as much as she's learned about stealth, she isn't used to dealing with the parasites of Westeros politics.

What is she up to though? It is almost like she's trying to decide if her sister has changed or not... But to what end? She wouldn't kill her. What would the point of that be?

Yeah, that whole plot thread is a little clunky. That's why I said some kind of she-knows-he-knows type thing, it might kind of play against her character a bit (like you pointed out), but it would explain some of the head scratching moments (and if done correctly, it would at least be super cool, especially if there's some kind of place switching reveal where Arya is sitting in for Sansa [presumably in a chair]).