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I didn’t have any thoughts like that.
Was I the only one expecting Jon to escape the north by riding on the third Dragon Dany had with her, locking himself in as a Targaryen? We only saw one leave (and one crash), so where was number 3?? Man, was I disappointed when Benjen showed up instead...
All up to date then. Great episode.
Yes the dragon thing was predictable. But still should make for an interesting twist.
Those Stark girls need to sort themselves out. You'd think between them they'd work out that Little Finger is playing them both.
Yes the dragon thing was predictable. But still should make for an interesting twist.
Those Stark girls need to sort themselves out. You'd think between them they'd work out that Little Finger is playing them both.
Yeah I felt like it was coming. The way it happened though was quite brutal to watch. They've always pitched them as both invincible war machines and fragile given how crucial they would be in any attempt to claim the Iron Throne. That episode just highlighted just how fragile they can be.
Someone on another forum linked to this, which explains the seemingly unreal Gengry->Raven->Dragonstone->Dany->Rescue timeline:
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6u75t3/lets_do_the_math_on_how_long_it_would_take_a/
By their loose (but reasonable) math, the poor crew was sitting on that rock island for a couple days.
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6u75t3/lets_do_the_math_on_how_long_it_would_take_a/
By their loose (but reasonable) math, the poor crew was sitting on that rock island for a couple days.
So the big question will the dragon breath "blue fire" or will it be an ice type "fire" that freezes you instead of burns you?
I thought i was losing my mind but glad it wasn't just me.
I didn't even know why Dany needed all three dragons with her in the first instance. Except it being necessary-ish for the story progression. Felt like two would've done the job and there'd be less of a target.
Kinda felt for Drogon when he saw his brother fall. And felt like too many people unnecessarily died for Jon in this episode. Also felt like he could've told Dany to burn Viserion to prevent reanimation but again...story development i guess.
As for the Stark sisters...well...yeah...Arya wont harm Sansa but her incessant need for intimidation will trigger Sansa to do something stupid. Making people fear you will just make them want you dead as Tyrion said
Good episode in terms of story development but i feel like some stuff could have been done better.
But at least the death wasn't pointless. Dany got her proof, they got the wight back to the south, and Jon finally bent the knee. I just hope they don't start banging since they're related and all.
I feel like now that the night king has his dragon there won't be time to mine dragon glass. He just needs to ride Vis and blow through the wall.
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I'd love to see Sansa and Arya team up against Little finger. But both are too busy being played to notice.
Even though we knew something was going to happen with the dragon, it was still heartbreaking.
I'm really looking forward to next week.
Even though we knew something was going to happen with the dragon, it was still heartbreaking.
I'm really looking forward to next week.
Arya is too busy being a little bitch to notice. I always liked her character, but she is being annoying right now. Cut your sister some slack.
I'd take Arya over Sansa any day. She should end up with Little Finger as they deserve each other!
Mind you he'd still not be her worst husband! He'd only just scrap into the top three!
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Except for its the last one of the series
Now maybe they will put Qyburn's scorpion to good use.
A little bit, yeah, but think about it from her point of view. The last time Arya saw her was at their father's beheading, where she was squarely under Cersei's thumb. Compounded with the letter, she needs to figure out where Sansa's loyalties lie, and if she has any ulterior motives. I think LF's plan to will ultimately backfire, but for the moment, I'd say Arya is justified in being suspicious of her sister.
A passage from A World of Ice and Fire from George Martin himself:
"Of all the queer and fabulous denizens of the Shivering Sea, however, the greatest are the ice dragons. These colossal beasts, many times larger than the dragons of Valyria, are said to be made of living ice, with eyes of pale blue crystal and vast translucent wings through which the moon and stars can be glimpsed as they wheel across the sky. Whereas common dragons (if any dragon can truly be said to be common) breathe flame, ice dragons supposedly breathe cold, a chill so terrible that it can freeze a man solid in half a heartbeat. ... As ice dragons supposedly melt when slain, no actual proof of their existence has ever been found."
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I think Bran and Arya spoke offscreen about Littlefinger and Arya is actually playing Littlefinger and dragging Sansa into it. My guess is he will die by the hands of Arya as revenge for setting up Ned back in S1 on the season finale but I wouldn't mind Sansa dying too. Overall episode 6 was an emotional rollercoaster, specially when Tormund almost died and I almost cried.
Also, is anybody going to talk about the music? When Dany arrived with the dragons, that score was brilliant! And when Viserion died, that piece was very emotional. One can't deny the Game of Thrones soundtracks are always spot on.
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That answers that question! Thank you.
Regarding the music, heck yeah, I have purchased ever seasons soundtrack and if they make one for this season I will be buying it also! I love the soundtrack/score for this series and I agree the music for those scenes in particular was spot on and very moving!
Am I right to assume that in the show for the sake of consolidation, instead of ice dragons existing, described as a different species, that the White Walkers have created an ice dragon?
That is how I took it also. With them pulling the dragon out of the water and then converting it to one of their own like they have done with the other animals and humans. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't done it to a whole bunch of things!
While still entertaining, I'm disappointed in the different tone and pacing the series has this season. It's like they are just running through a list of plot points and checking them off one as fast as they can w/o the nuance, storytelling and/or character development that made GoT compelling drama in the first place.
And all too often this season characters are put in danger only to be miraculously saved at the last second in very un-GoT moments. Bronn dodged dragon fire. Bronn saved Jamie from Dragon fire. Bronn saved Jamie from drowning and capture by magically swimming underwater the length of that lake and inexplicably none of Daenery's forces even seemed to be looking for them. In the last few minutes of "Beyond the Wall" alone Jon was saved at the last second by the dragon. Then Jon somehow saved himself from the wights that pulled him under the ice. Then Jon's long lost uncle shows up out of the blue to save him in the nick of time (and then die to tie up that loose end). A wight horde ripped through Hardhome like a hurricane, but this small band was able to hold them off and the only people to die were Red Shirts that just seemed to spawn out of thin air so they could get killed a half second later.
If the remaining episodes are going to be more of the same it's a shame that the series is going to out on a lull.
And all too often this season characters are put in danger only to be miraculously saved at the last second in very un-GoT moments. Bronn dodged dragon fire. Bronn saved Jamie from Dragon fire. Bronn saved Jamie from drowning and capture by magically swimming underwater the length of that lake and inexplicably none of Daenery's forces even seemed to be looking for them. In the last few minutes of "Beyond the Wall" alone Jon was saved at the last second by the dragon. Then Jon somehow saved himself from the wights that pulled him under the ice. Then Jon's long lost uncle shows up out of the blue to save him in the nick of time (and then die to tie up that loose end). A wight horde ripped through Hardhome like a hurricane, but this small band was able to hold them off and the only people to die were Red Shirts that just seemed to spawn out of thin air so they could get killed a half second later.
If the remaining episodes are going to be more of the same it's a shame that the series is going to out on a lull.
I'm seriously waiting for the episode where Brienne accepts Tormund's affection.
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What else needs to be said.
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What else needs to be said.
Had one of those GOT discussions at lunch time. 3 of us were up to date, one was still on season 6. It was funny trying to discuss without spoilers.
One of the guys mentioned next week is a 2 hour season finale. Is that right?
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One of the guys mentioned next week is a 2 hour season finale. Is that right?
[doublepost=1503516067][/doublepost]Just checked. 1 and a half hours.
Even if the thought had crossed his mind in the ladder* of everything going on, there was no time to burn his body. Drogon barely avoided that second spear. Not to mention Viserion sunk to the bottom of that lake/river. They had no way to pull him out so they could burn him.
You crazy. Never cared much for Arya, but she’s making me really hate her now.
And only just make the top 3? What? She only two husbands, and Tyrion wasn’t even a bad husband so I’m confused what you mean by this.
A few times, the score gave me chills. Especially when Dany rode in the battle with Jaime. When Drogon flew over that river...
I seriously don’t understand why they couldn’t...or didn’t want to stretch this season out over 10 episodes. There has been so much going on that a little filler would have actually been a good thing. Not even filler, really. They’ve been moving so fast that people are traveling across an entire country in a single episode and it doesn’t feel right. They should have slowed down a bit and given us more details on everything. I feel like that would have helped with a lot of the complaints this show has been getting.
Maybe they can change their minds in that regard next season.
I agree. I think 10 episodes would have really given the show enough time to flesh things out and not feel so rushed.
But given the $100M cost of season 6, I imagine they were given a similar budget this season and next, and with such huge battle sequences every episode, extensive CGI, and $3-3.5M salaries for the main characters, they might not have had the finances to produce more than 6-7 episodes.
Well she nearly married Joffrey.Even if the thought had crossed his mind in the ladder* of everything going on, there was no time to burn his body. Drogon barely avoided that second spear. Not to mention Viserion sunk to the bottom of that lake/river. They had no way to pull him out so they could burn him.
You crazy. Never cared much for Arya, but she’s making me really hate her now.
And only just make the top 3? What? She only two husbands, and Tyrion wasn’t even a bad husband so I’m confused what you mean by this.
A few times, the score gave me chills. Especially when Dany rode in the battle with Jaime. When Drogon flew over that river...
I seriously don’t understand why they couldn’t...or didn’t want to stretch this season out over 10 episodes. There has been so much going on that a little filler would have actually been a good thing. Not even filler, really. They’ve been moving so fast that people are traveling across an entire country in a single episode and it doesn’t feel right. They should have slowed down a bit and given us more details on everything. I feel like that would have helped with a lot of the complaints this show has been getting.
Maybe they can change their minds in that regard next season.
Ramsey wasn't the sort of husband I'd want for my daughter!
And agree I'd like the seasons to be longer, but accept they aren't cheap to make.
My feelings exactly. While it can still thrill, as one in love with the books, and even someone who just wants to see balanced story telling, it splashes cold water on me consistently. This is barely Cliff Notes with short windows of dialog and 2minute battles. One episode had two major events (Casterly Rock, High Garden) that flashed by so fast, a telegram would have sufficed.
Also previously noted, two major characters who look like they drown but miraculously survive. Yes, it all about budgeting and trying to wrap this up.At this point, I'm not planning on the books being finished, but I'll read them if they ever get published.
I agree this series feels a little rushed, even from the beginning. At the start, Danerys has crossed the sea, with her Dothraki, and taken Dragonstone, Tyrion is suddenly Danerys's Hand, an alliance has been formed with Dorne and the Tyrells. Asha Greyjoy is also an ally. This all happened rather swiftly, given the pacing of the previous 6 seasons. Also people (and armies) are suddenly able to travel all over Westeros in the blink of an eye.
It could simply be that as the books were not written yet, GRRM had only worked out the main plot lines. He hasn't had time to develop the intricacies and subplots that made the early series so interesting. There are of course even more subplots in the books.
It could also be that as there are no books to follow TV network influence is now stronger than before. They are better able to influence which plot lines are screened, and funded. They have then decided to focus on a few.
That being said, it's certainly keeping the plot lines moving along at a pace. We also seem to be focussing more on the main plot lines - dealing with the White Walkers and with the Iron throne, and I'm very comfortable with that.
TV Networks are risk averse, so I don't expect any 'big names' to be killed off until the final few episodes (which at this point means the second half of the last season).
On the subject of Littlefinger. I thought he was obtaining that scroll to protect Sansa, until the scene where he oversaw Arya searching for it, and taking it back. He is certainly an enigma.
It could simply be that as the books were not written yet, GRRM had only worked out the main plot lines. He hasn't had time to develop the intricacies and subplots that made the early series so interesting. There are of course even more subplots in the books.
It could also be that as there are no books to follow TV network influence is now stronger than before. They are better able to influence which plot lines are screened, and funded. They have then decided to focus on a few.
That being said, it's certainly keeping the plot lines moving along at a pace. We also seem to be focussing more on the main plot lines - dealing with the White Walkers and with the Iron throne, and I'm very comfortable with that.
TV Networks are risk averse, so I don't expect any 'big names' to be killed off until the final few episodes (which at this point means the second half of the last season).
On the subject of Littlefinger. I thought he was obtaining that scroll to protect Sansa, until the scene where he oversaw Arya searching for it, and taking it back. He is certainly an enigma.