Phones Gapgate... it's real

[Jibbajabba]

What I miss?

Nothing ... Same old same old.

 

[khha4113]

This is one of those issues you find when you open up the box; it just does not happen during everyday use. It’s a manufacturing defect and no one would/should stop you from returning/exchanging the product. I had to return an iPhone 5S last year because it had a spongy display; aka manufacturing defect. The year before that I had to return an iPhone 5 due to nicks on the metal band; manufacturing defect. Let’s not pretend that it doesn’t happen to Apple. Every product mass produced has a fall out percentage.
But iPhone bending issue is a design defect. It could happen in the first week or it can happen 3 years from now.

Unfortunately, these people woudn't realize that or they don't even care as long as they can bash Samsung!

 

[krazygreen]

The screen on my iPhone 6 Plus is popping off - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9z10FdMg_Y

 

[pdqgp]

The really bad things is here we are arguing over a posting started from the trolling of Raffi. He started trolling here.....then left the rest of us to argue and stew about it.....

 

[jamezr]

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lol....Evil

 

[kdarling]

Home button+apple, Multi touch screen with pinch zoom=apple, chamfered edge=apple, touchwiz=thats all Samesung(whew it sucks), stupid pen=1990 PDA, and on and on.

Home button = Microsoft, Blackberry and other smartphones

Multi-touch w/pinch zoom = announced for a Linux smartphone months before the iPhone

Chamfered edges = products going back centuries

Pen = not a cheap dumb stylus like Apple sells in their stores, but an active Wacom pen

"Samesung" = teenage poster

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As for before & after images, anyone can come up with cherry-picked sets of those, no matter whom you're talking about.


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and so forth and so on. The truth is, there's rarely anything truly new under the sun.

Even the online debates are similar to ones we had back in the Commodore - Tandy - Apple - Atari days... and will be just as ultimately meaningless.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Just played with the Note 4 at Best buy. The only gap I saw was the functionally the Note 4 has over the iPhone 6 Plus.

 

[C. Robert]

Home button = Microsoft, Blackberry and other smartphones

Multi-touch w/pinch zoom = announced for a Linux smartphone months before the iPhone

Chamfered edges = products going back centuries

Pen = not a cheap dumb stylus like Apple sells in their stores, but an active Wacom pen

"Samesung" = teenage poster

Linux announced? seriously? The iPhone was the first smartphone to use multi touch with pinch to zoom and owns the patent. You can't argue against that.
Show me chamfered edges on personal technology from ages ago.
The pen was used by palm long before samsung and you didn't deny it.
Samesung is an apple iPhone alternative and it will always be.


Android is nothing more than a copy of multiple companies that have been innovating for over 30 years.

Samesung= teenage poster shows that you have no argument. You resort to name calling because you have no argument. remove yourself from the internet until you mature.

 

[bkends35]

The fanboy is strong in this thread.

http://youtu.be/FwM4ypi3at0

Worst build quality ever, right?

Has nothing to do with build quality, it's just the properties of the material used. The plastic's elastic yield point is much higher than that of aluminum. This is why the plastic bends and forms back to it's normal shape, unlike aluminum... until a certain point that is.

 

[bmt134]

Samesung= teenage poster shows that you have no argument. You resort to name calling because you have no argument. remove yourself from the internet until you mature.

 

[The Game 161]

Just played with the Note 4 at Best buy. The only gap I saw was the functionally the Note 4 has over the iPhone 6 Plus.

Ha I'm sure there will be zero issues by time its out in the US

 

[spinedoc77]

Wow, you'd think these guys are arguing about their kids or something.

 

[dojoman]

Linux announced? seriously? The iPhone was the first smartphone to use multi touch with pinch to zoom and owns the patent. You can't argue against that.
Show me chamfered edges on personal technology from ages ago.
The pen was used by palm long before samsung and you didn't deny it.
Samesung is an apple iPhone alternative and it will always be.


Android is nothing more than a copy of multiple companies that have been innovating for over 30 years.

Samesung= teenage poster shows that you have no argument. You resort to name calling because you have no argument. remove yourself from the internet until you mature.

Yeah I would really like to see this so called "announcement" too. And whatever happened to this such device? Sounds like he's just making stuff up out of thin air.

 

[gotluck]

Samesung= teenage poster shows that you have no argument. You resort to name calling because you have no argument. remove yourself from the internet until you mature.

This is some classic stuff right here..

Namecall the namecaller .. Umk..

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Yeah I would really like to see this so called "announcement" too. And whatever happened to this such device? Sounds like he's just making stuff up out of thin air.

Really doubt kdarling would make things up..

 

[kdarling]

Linux announced? seriously?

Yep. There were articles about it on Engadget, Infoworld, LinuxDevices, etc. Gizmodo first had an article about it Nov 7, 2006... two months before the iPhone was shown off by Jobs.

The designers originally had hoped to provide a 285ppi display and multi-touch screen: "The phone itself has a 2.8-inch VGA display, USB mesh file sharing, multi-touch sensor recognition, GSM, GPS, 128MB RAM, a Samsung ARM9-based processor and MP3 playback capabilities. - Gizmodo "

The pictures are often missing from these old web articles, but I saved them:



Since it was meant as just a developer device, reporters paid little attention to it until Apple showed off their phone. Suddenly everyone remembered it. For example, Gizmodo wrote:

The iPhone was the first smartphone to use multi touch with pinch to zoom and owns the patent. You can't argue against that.

They were the first to market, yes.

As for multi-touch and pinch to zoom, Apple has no such base patents. Heck, pinch to zoom dates from at least the 1990s.

The pen was used by palm long before samsung and you didn't deny it.

Palm used a stylus. That's a dumb stick. Samsung licensed Wacom active pen technology, which is a grid behind the display that transmits power to a pen, which transponds back to give the exact location and pressure.

Samesung= teenage poster shows that you have no argument.

The fact that you're repeating old and common touch history misconceptions is okay. We get that all the time. Historical ignorance can be fixed.

But good grief, if you're going to try to insult companies by giving out childish nicknames, at least be original. Here's a hint: look up the meaning of Samsung in Korean. Maybe you can come up with a related pun that's novel and interesting.

 

[skratch77]

Oh snap kdarling just owned his ass lol

 

[weespeed]

kdarling laying the smack down!! Lol

 

[swarley]

Welcome to Macrumors forums.

Where everything ends in a pissing contest.

I used to love this sub forum specifically because it was one of the best places for decent discussion about both platforms. Not anymore I guess...

Anyways my take? Neither are an issue. When the quantity of devices manufactured by both companies are taken into account, the number of devices that have problems are a non issue. There are going to be isolated problems in any device created in such quantities. (Full disclosure, at this point in time. If either become a problem in the future I think we can then reevaluate).

 

[The Game 161]

At the end of the day if our devices have no issues.. Who cares.

 

[C. Robert]

Yep. There were articles about it on Engadget, Infoworld, LinuxDevices, etc. Gizmodo first had an article about it Nov 7, 2006... two months before the iPhone was shown off by Jobs.

The designers originally had hoped to provide a 285ppi display and multi-touch screen: "The phone itself has a 2.8-inch VGA display, USB mesh file sharing, multi-touch sensor recognition, GSM, GPS, 128MB RAM, a Samsung ARM9-based processor and MP3 playback capabilities. - Gizmodo "

The pictures are often missing from these old web articles, but I saved them:

View attachment 498909

Since it was meant as just a developer device, reporters paid little attention to it until Apple showed off their phone. Suddenly everyone remembered it. For example, Gizmodo wrote:

View attachment 498915



They were the first to market, yes.

As for multi-touch and pinch to zoom, Apple has no such base patents. Heck, pinch to zoom dates from at least the 1990s.



Palm used a stylus. That's a dumb stick. Samsung licensed Wacom active pen technology, which is a grid behind the display that transmits power to a pen, which transponds back to give the exact location and pressure.



The fact that you're repeating old and common touch history misconceptions is okay. We get that all the time. Historical ignorance can be fixed.

But good grief, if you're going to try to insult companies by giving out childish nicknames, at least be original. Here's a hint: look up the meaning of Samsung in Korean. Maybe you can come up with a related pun that's novel and interesting.

You've given nothing. Apple, Microsoft invented modern day computing devices.
Here is a link about apple's multi touch patents(patent number 915 incase you want to check it out yourself). Much of Samsung's early smartphones can't be sold in the states because they violated apple's pinch to zoom patent. They had to give their phone small changes and work arounds to the patent in order to sell their phones. Show me a pinch to zoom multi touch screen prior to Apple's iPhone. Sure IBM had multitouch and their were a few computers but they were either pressure sensitive or not usable.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/17/...tent-upheld-by-us-patent-and-trademark-office



You show a picture of a dumb phone next to a smartphone. Come on guy. Your ignorance is biased and childish.

Palm used a stylus that slid into it's body just like the samesung note. Please tell me one thing that samesung has invented. Please for the love of baby Jesus say Amoled.

Samsung using wacom isn't innovative beacon has been used in tablets and PCs sinc the 80s. You need to do some research. Then come back with real facts.

I do love the way you say hoped. Right now I can draw a picture of a beer tree and hope it gives me beer. I hope to invent a smartphone.

"What Apple did: After Simon, other companies like Palm, Nokia, and RIM got into the smartphone game. In 2007, the first iPhone debuted, and it rocked the world with its huge touchscreen, sexy steel-and-glass design, and all-in-one features (it also incorporated the ability to listen to music, watch videos, etc.). It was the first smartphone to use a multi-touch display, bringing loads of innovations along with it that still influence handheld devices of all kinds. When the App Store arrived a year later, it marked the first time that apps could be purchased from and installed directly onto a handheld device without the need to sync with a computer."

http://www.applegazette.com/feature/6-things-apple-did-not-invent/#bJeVS8uRHAbzrsFb.99

Here is your prada in action, its pretty innovative, if your last phone had a chord attached. The keyboard and the fact that it wasn't a smartphone is also amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KslKG0iSZ-0

Please don't respond with a picture of an idea. Respond with an actual working device. Its childish and stupid.


I could go on but that should be enough to show that you have no idea what your talking about.

 

[spinedoc77]

Yep. There were articles about it on Engadget, Infoworld, LinuxDevices, etc. Gizmodo first had an article about it Nov 7, 2006... two months before the iPhone was shown off by Jobs.

The designers originally had hoped to provide a 285ppi display and multi-touch screen: "The phone itself has a 2.8-inch VGA display, USB mesh file sharing, multi-touch sensor recognition, GSM, GPS, 128MB RAM, a Samsung ARM9-based processor and MP3 playback capabilities. - Gizmodo "

The pictures are often missing from these old web articles, but I saved them:

View attachment 498909

Since it was meant as just a developer device, reporters paid little attention to it until Apple showed off their phone. Suddenly everyone remembered it. For example, Gizmodo wrote:

View attachment 498915



They were the first to market, yes.

As for multi-touch and pinch to zoom, Apple has no such base patents. Heck, pinch to zoom dates from at least the 1990s.



Palm used a stylus. That's a dumb stick. Samsung licensed Wacom active pen technology, which is a grid behind the display that transmits power to a pen, which transponds back to give the exact location and pressure.



The fact that you're repeating old and common touch history misconceptions is okay. We get that all the time. Historical ignorance can be fixed.

But good grief, if you're going to try to insult companies by giving out childish nicknames, at least be original. Here's a hint: look up the meaning of Samsung in Korean. Maybe you can come up with a related pun that's novel and interesting.

Wow massive pwnage kdarling. I'll bet you knew you would one day crush someone's argument when you saved those pics in 2006.

 

[jamezr]

You've given nothing. Apple, Microsoft invented modern day computing devices.

You need to take these off

and read the thread and posts again.......because you Raffi have been pwned!
kdarling by KO!

 

[dojoman]

Apple patent dates back Sept 2007, just months before Linux smartphone announcement. I guess they lost, that was the end of it.
And Stylus? lol

 

[Fanaticalism]

You've given nothing. Apple, Microsoft invented modern day computing devices.
Here is a link about apple's multi touch patents(patent number 915 incase you want to check it out yourself). Much of Samsung's early smartphones can't be sold in the states because they violated apple's pinch to zoom patent. They had to give their phone small changes and work arounds to the patent in order to sell their phones.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/17/...tent-upheld-by-us-patent-and-trademark-office



You show a picture of a dumb phone next to a smartphone. Come on guy. Your ignorance is biased and childish.

Palm used a stylus that slid into it's body just like the samesung note. Please tell me one thing that samesung has invented. Please for the love of baby Jesus say Amoled.

Samsung using wacom isn't innovative beacon has been used in tablets and PCs sinc the 80s. You need to do some research. Then come back with real facts.

I do love the way you say hoped. Right now I can draw a picture of a beer tree and hope it gives me beer. I hope to invent a smartphone.

"What Apple did: After Simon, other companies like Palm, Nokia, and RIM got into the smartphone game. In 2007, the first iPhone debuted, and it rocked the world with its huge touchscreen, sexy steel-and-glass design, and all-in-one features (it also incorporated the ability to listen to music, watch videos, etc.). It was the first smartphone to use a multi-touch display, bringing loads of innovations along with it that still influence handheld devices of all kinds. When the App Store arrived a year later, it marked the first time that apps could be purchased from and installed directly onto a handheld device without the need to sync with a computer."

http://www.applegazette.com/feature/6-things-apple-did-not-invent/#bJeVS8uRHAbzrsFb.99

Please don't respond with a picture of an idea. Respond with an actual working device. Its childish and stupid.

I could go on but that should be enough to show that you have no idea what your talking about.

Oh boy. The internet is a powerful tool and enables people to read just enough to get them into trouble.

 

[C. Robert]

You need to take these off

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and read the thread and posts again.......because you Raffi have been pwned!
kdarling by KO!

How? Because he isn't arguing anything about Samsung but cherry picking nonsense. There are companies that have given more to modern computing that anyone else. Samesung isn't one of them. Icons of modern computing are apple, microsoft, IBM,HP, Xerox, Intel, and compaq.

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Apple patent dates back Sept 2007, just months before Linux smartphone announcement. I guess they lost, that was the end of it.
And Stylus? lol

Read what you wrote to yourself "Apple patents dates back to 2007, just months before linux". Are you ok?

The gapgate video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gIgL6I7FM