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My significant other uses a Dell 2 in 1 laptop with Windows 10 and she has updates come through mostly on Tuesday evening and she isn't complaining to me about restarts. She is definitely not a computer savvy person so I am her tech support. Since I am becoming familiar with windows by using her laptop for now so I don't know where all the update settings are but I do know that neither of us changed them from however they were set initially.
Is she okay with overall usability?
 
I know that now. The point is I didn't have a clue it was going to do it in the first place. The DEFAULT behaviour is to just do it when it wants. That's just crazy. I had visual studio running and stuff, and it just quit it and restarted the machine. That's terrible design.

The mac would never shut down one of your apps automatically without telling you to do an update. This windows 10 and 8 as well are the first OS's where it really don't feel you are in control of the thing out the gate. Just does what it wants.

All this because the virus situation is so out of hand on the windows that they have to force you to update at every opportunity. Nuts.

I never changed the default settings and this never happened to me. Yes windows let me know that next time I reset it will update my computer. I think its just as fine as OS X to be honest. Its funny how certain things like this gets people wound up and makes it their main reason for sticking to an OS. Of course when you are well used to one OS all these things will feel more reliable there, because every tiny bit will feel different when you change.

My OS X has done unreliable things too, I had a Maxed out iMac 5K, at worst it even crashed the entire system and made a reboot, this happened many times, because of overheat and heavy lifting. That to me, is a much bigger issue than a sudden OS update that you can actually change. And that is one of the most powerful machines Apple has to offer. ..."just does what you want" ....-I definitely didn't want that to happen.
 
She is fine with it. The computer has 8gb RAM and an i5 CPU since she just uses it for email, surfing, Facebook and games. It almost keeps her out of trouble;)
 
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I, too, am frustrated with Windows updates but I have never had it interrupt my work. I have had it fill a dark room with an eerie blue glow in the middle of the night (I have two large monitors) when I least expected it as my PC woke up, updated, and restarted. I thought a UFO was landing.
 
I, too, am frustrated with Windows updates but I have never had it interrupt my work. I have had it fill a dark room with an eerie blue glow in the middle of the night (I have two large monitors) when I least expected it as my PC woke up, updated, and restarted. I thought a UFO was landing.

Maybe they did land... Have you checked your body for needle and probe marks? Do you have any unexpected rectal pain?
 
I'd recommend giving it more than a passing try. Using it day to day is helpful in learning it. It would help you understand that your annoyance of not saving in the last folder doesn't exist (you can try this with Notepad which defaults to the last location you were working with (at least on Windows 2007 and Windows 10). I suspect this is application dependent and therefore not an issue with Windows itself.

It might be particular to the Creative Suite, which is what I do most of my work in. They tend to overwrite the system dialog boxes in favor of their own. But I've not tried the CS in windows for a while.
 
Maybe they did land... Have you checked your body for needle and probe marks? Do you have any unexpected rectal pain?

IT HAPPENED AGAIN LAST NIGHT. I was lazy and put my machine to sleep and let my monitors go into power saving mode rather than turn them off. Pretty late at night it turned on with an update screen, and of course it's the most intense blue ever created. A special blue. A weaponized blue.

I woke, cursing and stumbling as I fought my way to the screens to disable the retina searing blue attack beam that was designed to disrupt the human sleep cycle.

I switched it off but at a great loss. The damage was done. My body was convinced that not only was it day time, but that I was standing on the outside hull of a spaceship close to a blue star. There was no more sleep to be had last night. I'm now drifting through the work day like the main character in fight club.

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IT HAPPENED AGAIN LAST NIGHT. I was lazy and put my machine to sleep and let my monitors go into power saving mode rather than turn them off. Pretty late at night it turned on with an update screen, and of course it's the most intense blue ever created. A special blue. A weaponized blue.

I woke, cursing and stumbling as I fought my way to the screens to disable the retina searing blue attack beam that was designed to disrupt the human sleep cycle.

I switched it off but at a great loss. The damage was done. My body was convinced that not only was it day time, but that I was standing on the outside hull of a spaceship close to a blue star. There was no more sleep to be had last night. I'm now drifting through the work day like the main character in fight club.

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They really are out to get you... :)
 
Mr. Burton, where is that pic from?

While I'm not Mr Burton, it does appear to be a blue version of this screen capture of the movie "Sunshine" as referenced on this page (or various other pages with the same image).

Anyway, as for the topic. We are looking for a new rendering machine at work and have currently been using 3 2010 Mac Pros and 1 2013 8 core Mac Pro for the editor with a TB RAID and need a new one but refuse to purchase a new Mac from 2013. Same with one of our shop guys who spends a lot of time in the Adobe suite. Decided to just build a PC instead and saved a lot of cash doing so ($1,300 got me 4GHz Skylake i7, 32GB DDR4, 256GB NVMe SSD, FirePro GPU, Z170 motherboard, Windows 10 Pro, etc). Still waiting on the next Mac Pro though for our animator as he's using a 2011 i7 iMac and it could certainly be quicker running Cinema 4D. If one doesn't come soon I'll be building an Xeon based PC workstation myself.
 
It might be particular to the Creative Suite, which is what I do most of my work in. They tend to overwrite the system dialog boxes in favor of their own. But I've not tried the CS in windows for a while.
On the Windows platform this could very well be application dependent (I know of two applications which remember the last location opened or saved to) which is what I was attempting to say with my previous statement.
 
Another update. This time I was ready. I have video footage of microsoft HQ in Redmond as they initiate the update on my machine at 4am:

 
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Audio production with CPU hungry plugins and VI's.

"Cheese grater" and "Trash can" are not up to my optimal requirements.
No word from Apple.....
Over 30 years with mac and I'm seriously considering jumping.

Just wondering as I'm looking to get back into audio and music myself. is the high end iMac with the highest clock speed from intel not up to the task for you guys? I'd most likely do sound/foley mixing for animation and composing/performing digital music via MIDI instruments.
 
My significant other uses a Dell 2 in 1 laptop with Windows 10 and she has updates come through mostly on Tuesday evening and she isn't complaining to me about restarts. She is definitely not a computer savvy person so I am her tech support. Since I am becoming familiar with windows by using her laptop for now so I don't know where all the update settings are but I do know that neither of us changed them from however they were set initially.

The updates happen at "inactive hours", that can be configured - but not disabled. And theoretically the restart is *paused* if you are using the computer. But if you are using an VM and you're not actively using it, or if you are using it as a server, guess what happens.

This mountain of guano isn't deterred either if files are open. It has closed even full VMs that I had in there (yes, nested VMs). It's plain dangerous. So glad that I don't have to live in *that*. Cortana and Windows app shop advertisements at every step, but no fricking way to STOP RESTARTING. WTF??
 
In my previous job, in TV audio post, we were using Mac Pros with 32GB RAM, and 8 cores. Our Pro Tools templates regularly ran well over 100 tracks and busses, with plugins on every channel. We had to be careful not to add too many extra plugins. You can basically use up all the resources easily if you keep adding more processing plugins and VIs.

On the other hand, I used a Mac Mini at home with 16GB RAM, and mostly used Ableton, and it coped well enough. You can't run many instances of something like Omnisphere though!

I think a "high-end iMac" will do a lot of audio stuff very well - it just depends how many things you want to throw at it at one time...


Just wondering as I'm looking to get back into audio and music myself. is the high end iMac with the highest clock speed from intel not up to the task for you guys? I'd most likely do sound/foley mixing for animation and composing/performing digital music via MIDI instruments.
 

Google a bit more and you will learn that after the anniversary update this no longer works, and even win 10 enterprise force reboots at times. For many updates, you can avoid it, but not all. More details here for those who care: http://superuser.com/questions/957267/how-to-disable-automatic-reboots-in-windows-10

Just another reminder of why I'd like Apple to release a new Mac Pro!
 
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Heh. Yep, The Thing is so nice that to stop it from restarting you only have to, er, Yahoo for a second. Then fumble a bit more when you realize that it at some point changed.
Or maybe 2 bits, who cares, right? It's not like a normal user anyway will want something as advanced as stopping The Thing from restarting by itself!
[doublepost=1478990081][/doublepost]Hoooly ****. This is even a frequent question in Stack Overflow. This is the stuff LOL is made of.

https://superuser.com/questions/111...er-after-installing-updates?noredirect=1&lq=1

With such fun as...
The two other solutions don't seem to be working for me as those registry settings were already set on my computer.
Does not work. (Windows 10 Version 1607 Build 14393.187)
Setting the "No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates installations" GPO didn't work for me. I woke up this morning and my machine had been rebooted. (I was using the computer last night and didn't even get a warning.)

I mean - it's not ONLY that there is not a normal, user-facing setting to stop this madness. It's also NOT that you have to dig on different places depending on your Windows 10 edition. The final kicker is that it EVEN depends on the exact VERSION and BUILD??

Please, someone tell me more about how Windows 10 is gonna save us all.

I said it already and can only repeat: Linux was supposed to be like this, because free and amateur and bazaar and stuff. Who knew things had changed this much. I'll sooner deal with any open-source half-assed whatever than with this. At least you know you can always go look at the source.
 
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Google a bit more and you will learn that after the anniversary update this no longer works, and even win 10 enterprise force reboots at times. For many updates, you can avoid it, but not all. More details here for those who care: http://superuser.com/questions/957267/how-to-disable-automatic-reboots-in-windows-10

Just another reminder of why I'd like Apple to release a new Mac Pro!
Most people don't care. in fact I'd say the only people who do care are those who dislike Windows.
 
:D

Are you really, seriously, with a straight face, saying that ANY COMPUTER unaskedly restarting by itself is OK to you, and that not liking that is because of "disliking Windows"?

Ballmer, is that you?

Windows warns you before restarting. You can also set the time slot where such restart will happen.
 
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