Going caseless gets you more grip, but I have always used cases.
As I had mentioned in my earlier post, the screen is very underwhelming. My $600 1080p Mate 9 screen is head and shoulders above this display.
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As I had mentioned in my earlier post, the screen is very underwhelming. My $600 1080p Mate 9 screen is head and shoulders above this display.
I dealt with LG in the past and not one device didn't have a quality control issue. I'm not even trying to put them down and I do wish the best for that company. But people pay money for good hardware at least ..........
I guess, but Google had a full year to make this phone right.. it is not like the original Pixel when they rushed to the market.
He is trying to throw shade at the Pixels because he likes Samsung phones... I think he is jealous....
Look at how much time and effort he spends in this thread trying to make the Pixel look bad.
He even reposted the Reddit post when ti was already posted once....
[doublepost=1508388933][/doublepost]Google Pixel 2 XL Initial Review: The best Android phone dethroned by its sequel
https://9to5google.com/2017/10/17/google-pixel-2-xl-initial-review/
The best Android phone out there
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...view-the-best-android-phone-you-can-buy/6/#h3
[doublepost=1508389226][/doublepost]WIRED
There is no better Android phone.
https://www.wired.com/2017/10/review-google-pixel-2/
[doublepost=1508389280][/doublepost]REVIEW: If I were to buy an Android phone, it would be the Pixel 2 XL
http://www.businessinsider.com/revi...is-the-best-android-phone-you-can-buy-2017-10
[doublepost=1508389389][/doublepost]Pixel 2 review: Still the best Android phone money can buy
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/17/pixel-2-review-still-the-best-android-phone-money-can-buy/
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https://www.cnet.com/au/news/pixel-2-xl-p-oled-screen-issue/
You might have heard: The Google Pixel 2 XL has a less-than-perfect screen.
Depending on whom you ask -- see: Reddit, XDA Developers -- the phone's LG-made P-OLED screen has muted colors, a bluish tint or a blotchy, grainy texture that's visible when you scroll down webpages.
The short answer: It's basically all true.
But after a close comparison of five different phones here in the CNET offices -- two Pixel 2 XL, two LG V30 and a Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus for comparison -- it's more of a nuanced issue, and less of an open and shut case.
Screen nerds may want to steer clear of the Pixel 2 XL for now, but we don't believe any of the issues we're seeing are deal breakers for ordinary users.
Here's how things shake out.
1. Muted colors
There's no question that the colors on the Pixel 2 XL's 6-inch, 2,880x1,440-pixel P-OLED screen aren't quite as vibrant as those on the flagship Samsung phone we used for comparison. We created pure red, green and blue RGB images in Photoshop at each phone's native resolution for an apples to apples test, and the Pixel 2 XL's colors were consistently muted by comparison. It didn't matter whether we turned on the phone's "Vivid" mode, or reduced the Samsung phone's brightness to better match -- the Samsung's colors always popped in a way the Google's screen didn't.
But would you notice in everyday use? We're tempted to argue you wouldn't. When we watched movie trailers and CNET videos instead of peeping pixels, we had a tough time noticing a difference in color. (Maybe the skin tones were slightly better on the Samsung.)
You might also argue that the muted colors are intentional, that Google calibrated its screen this way. Google certainly argued that, in a statement to CNET:
"We designed the Pixel display to have a more natural and accurate rendition of colors this year but we know some people prefer more vivid colors so we've added an option to boost colors by 10% for a more saturated display. We're always looking at people's responses to Pixel and we will look at adding more color options through a software update if we see a lot of feedback."
But again, the "Vivid" mode didn't make a big difference in our tests -- and for whatever reason, the two LG V30 phones we tested, also with identical size and resolution P-OLED screens, didn't have muted colors. They looked nearly as vibrant as the Samsung.
Besides, colors aren't the only potential issue with Google's screen.
2. Blue shift
The phone looks fine viewed head-on, pointed directly at your face. OK, maybe the colors are a touch muted. (See above.) But tilt it even a little bit, and all those colors get way cooler. Everything you see takes on a blue tint.
It's not unusual for a screen's colors to change at off-angles, particularly in phones with curved glass edges like these. Even our reference Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus takes on blue tint if you tilt it far enough. But the Pixel 2 XL's blue shift is so immediate, the sweet spot so small, that you need to hold it perfectly level with your face to avoid the blue color cast.
Here's the thing: It's not nearly as bad on LG's own phone, the LG V30. We pit two LG V30 phones against two Pixel 2 XL phones, and the V30s didn't take on nearly as deep a blue tint when tilted the same degree.
3. Noisy/blotchy screen
Of the various concerns with the Pixel 2 XL's screen, this is the tiniest by far. One of my colleagues said she couldn't see the issue at all. But if you look very closely, particularly when scrolling down a white webpage, with the phone's brightness turned down, maybe in a dark room, for good measure, you can see little splotchy rainbows appear on the surface of the screen, or a fine grain like the noise of a photo taken in poor light.
The theory is that these are because the individual subpixels that make up the pixels of the screen aren't all lighting up to the same degree, and so some of those subpixels stand out. I can't confirm that, but I definitely saw it happen on both the Pixel 2 XL and LG V30 phones.
However, once again, it wasn't nearly as noticible an issue on our twin LG V30 units as it was on our two copies of the Pixel 2 XL.
Which leads me to believe there's more to the story than Google is letting on.
Eye of the beholder
The "smoking gun" for some are the noisy, blotchy patterns that are (barely) visible in the Pixel 2 XL's screen, which directly mirror those in early "preview" samples of the LG V30 sent to journalists over six weeks ago, such as the ones highlighted by Ars Technica's Ron Amadeo.
That's effectively what Vlad Savov at The Verge is saying: That LG's P-OLED screen technology may be to blame. Both screens are from the same manufacturer, are the same size and resolution, and use the same underlying P-OLED screen technology, so it's not a huge leap to make.
But when we compare the V30 and the Pixel XL, we're seeing something different. Our final review units of the LG V30 look considerably better.
What does it mean? Well, with the caveat that perceptions are subjective, perhaps Google got a bad batch of LG screens, similar to the ones that wound up in those LG V30 "preview" units a few early reviewers got.
I've no proof of that -- Google declined to comment and LG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment -- so take that idea with a grain of salt.
But it wouldn't be the first time that an initial manufacturing run had some teething problems. Remember the "yellow-tinted" iPhone 4S screensin 2011?
The question is: Will the Pixel 2 XL you buy have a screen that looks more like the Pixel 2 XL units we have, or the LG V30s we have? I can't answer that question.
You're not missing much
Again, none of these issues are deal breakers. Many of them aren't even noticeable unless you're a pixel peeper, or compare the Pixel 2 XL side by side with other phones. We're not currently planning to dock points from our Pixel 2 XL review, because the screen is still beautiful, sharp and colorful, even if it's not the best that OLED has to offer.
Speaking of which, we didn't spot any dead or discolored pixels in any of these phones, which was one forum concern. We tested with completely-black and completely-white images, and each phone offered the brilliant whites and inky blacks that OLED screens are known for. No issues there.
If you're an absolute screen nerd, for whom the screen is the main reason to pick one phone over another, you might reconsider your Pixel 2 XL decision. (You might also reconsider if you're planning to use Google's VR headset.)
Otherwise, we currently think the Pixel 2 XL is an excellent choice.
Just maybe buy it through Google's Play Store, which generally has a much more liberal return policy than other retailers”
You might have heard: The Google Pixel 2 XL has a less-than-perfect screen.
Depending on whom you ask -- see: Reddit, XDA Developers -- the phone's LG-made P-OLED screen has muted colors, a bluish tint or a blotchy, grainy texture that's visible when you scroll down webpages.
The short answer: It's basically all true.
But after a close comparison of five different phones here in the CNET offices -- two Pixel 2 XL, two LG V30 and a Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus for comparison -- it's more of a nuanced issue, and less of an open and shut case.
Screen nerds may want to steer clear of the Pixel 2 XL for now, but we don't believe any of the issues we're seeing are deal breakers for ordinary users.
Here's how things shake out.
1. Muted colors
There's no question that the colors on the Pixel 2 XL's 6-inch, 2,880x1,440-pixel P-OLED screen aren't quite as vibrant as those on the flagship Samsung phone we used for comparison. We created pure red, green and blue RGB images in Photoshop at each phone's native resolution for an apples to apples test, and the Pixel 2 XL's colors were consistently muted by comparison. It didn't matter whether we turned on the phone's "Vivid" mode, or reduced the Samsung phone's brightness to better match -- the Samsung's colors always popped in a way the Google's screen didn't.
But would you notice in everyday use? We're tempted to argue you wouldn't. When we watched movie trailers and CNET videos instead of peeping pixels, we had a tough time noticing a difference in color. (Maybe the skin tones were slightly better on the Samsung.)
You might also argue that the muted colors are intentional, that Google calibrated its screen this way. Google certainly argued that, in a statement to CNET:
"We designed the Pixel display to have a more natural and accurate rendition of colors this year but we know some people prefer more vivid colors so we've added an option to boost colors by 10% for a more saturated display. We're always looking at people's responses to Pixel and we will look at adding more color options through a software update if we see a lot of feedback."
But again, the "Vivid" mode didn't make a big difference in our tests -- and for whatever reason, the two LG V30 phones we tested, also with identical size and resolution P-OLED screens, didn't have muted colors. They looked nearly as vibrant as the Samsung.
Besides, colors aren't the only potential issue with Google's screen.
2. Blue shift
The phone looks fine viewed head-on, pointed directly at your face. OK, maybe the colors are a touch muted. (See above.) But tilt it even a little bit, and all those colors get way cooler. Everything you see takes on a blue tint.
It's not unusual for a screen's colors to change at off-angles, particularly in phones with curved glass edges like these. Even our reference Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus takes on blue tint if you tilt it far enough. But the Pixel 2 XL's blue shift is so immediate, the sweet spot so small, that you need to hold it perfectly level with your face to avoid the blue color cast.
Here's the thing: It's not nearly as bad on LG's own phone, the LG V30. We pit two LG V30 phones against two Pixel 2 XL phones, and the V30s didn't take on nearly as deep a blue tint when tilted the same degree.
3. Noisy/blotchy screen
Of the various concerns with the Pixel 2 XL's screen, this is the tiniest by far. One of my colleagues said she couldn't see the issue at all. But if you look very closely, particularly when scrolling down a white webpage, with the phone's brightness turned down, maybe in a dark room, for good measure, you can see little splotchy rainbows appear on the surface of the screen, or a fine grain like the noise of a photo taken in poor light.
The theory is that these are because the individual subpixels that make up the pixels of the screen aren't all lighting up to the same degree, and so some of those subpixels stand out. I can't confirm that, but I definitely saw it happen on both the Pixel 2 XL and LG V30 phones.
However, once again, it wasn't nearly as noticible an issue on our twin LG V30 units as it was on our two copies of the Pixel 2 XL.
Which leads me to believe there's more to the story than Google is letting on.
Eye of the beholder
The "smoking gun" for some are the noisy, blotchy patterns that are (barely) visible in the Pixel 2 XL's screen, which directly mirror those in early "preview" samples of the LG V30 sent to journalists over six weeks ago, such as the ones highlighted by Ars Technica's Ron Amadeo.
That's effectively what Vlad Savov at The Verge is saying: That LG's P-OLED screen technology may be to blame. Both screens are from the same manufacturer, are the same size and resolution, and use the same underlying P-OLED screen technology, so it's not a huge leap to make.
But when we compare the V30 and the Pixel XL, we're seeing something different. Our final review units of the LG V30 look considerably better.
What does it mean? Well, with the caveat that perceptions are subjective, perhaps Google got a bad batch of LG screens, similar to the ones that wound up in those LG V30 "preview" units a few early reviewers got.
I've no proof of that -- Google declined to comment and LG didn't immediately respond to a request for comment -- so take that idea with a grain of salt.
But it wouldn't be the first time that an initial manufacturing run had some teething problems. Remember the "yellow-tinted" iPhone 4S screensin 2011?
The question is: Will the Pixel 2 XL you buy have a screen that looks more like the Pixel 2 XL units we have, or the LG V30s we have? I can't answer that question.
You're not missing much
Again, none of these issues are deal breakers. Many of them aren't even noticeable unless you're a pixel peeper, or compare the Pixel 2 XL side by side with other phones. We're not currently planning to dock points from our Pixel 2 XL review, because the screen is still beautiful, sharp and colorful, even if it's not the best that OLED has to offer.
Speaking of which, we didn't spot any dead or discolored pixels in any of these phones, which was one forum concern. We tested with completely-black and completely-white images, and each phone offered the brilliant whites and inky blacks that OLED screens are known for. No issues there.
If you're an absolute screen nerd, for whom the screen is the main reason to pick one phone over another, you might reconsider your Pixel 2 XL decision. (You might also reconsider if you're planning to use Google's VR headset.)
Otherwise, we currently think the Pixel 2 XL is an excellent choice.
Just maybe buy it through Google's Play Store, which generally has a much more liberal return policy than other retailers”
Liking it more in all-black 2 XL but that panda option still looks good too.
SuperSaf photo comparison
Video - iPhone 8 Plus
Photos - Pixel 2 XL, and it's not even close
iPhone 8 Plus lost to the 7 Plus when I saw it a couple weeks ago.
Last year's Pixels were some of the best phones out there. The only complaints I read was they're expensive and ugly. Features aren't as deep as the others.
I will hear the same nonsense this year for the 2 XL. But guess what? It will still rank among the elite smartphones of this year. Premium price for a premium Android software experience.
Belongs in the highest echelon next to the iPhone X and Note8. Going to check it out tomorrow. I like it. Still going to wait on that iPhone eX but Pixel 2 XL has got my attention so far. The Pixel 2 XL might arguably look better than iPhone X. No camera hump or weird notch.
Stock Android = ages like fine wine
Heavy Android skin = ages like spoiled milk
As long as I enjoy Android, the Pixel brand will always be one of the top options. Good job again, Google.
SuperSaf photo comparison
Video - iPhone 8 Plus
Photos - Pixel 2 XL, and it's not even close
iPhone 8 Plus lost to the 7 Plus when I saw it a couple weeks ago.
Last year's Pixels were some of the best phones out there. The only complaints I read was they're expensive and ugly. Features aren't as deep as the others.
I will hear the same nonsense this year for the 2 XL. But guess what? It will still rank among the elite smartphones of this year. Premium price for a premium Android software experience.
Belongs in the highest echelon next to the iPhone X and Note8. Going to check it out tomorrow. I like it. Still going to wait on that iPhone eX but Pixel 2 XL has got my attention so far. The Pixel 2 XL might arguably look better than iPhone X. No camera hump or weird notch.
Stock Android = ages like fine wine
Heavy Android skin = ages like spoiled milk
As long as I enjoy Android, the Pixel brand will always be one of the top options. Good job again, Google.
I think everyone just needs to get their hands on their pixels and form their own opinion. Screens always vary I can't tell you how many threads I've seen over the years (particularly iPhone) discussing yellow gate, then pink gate.
I had a yellow display on an iPhone 5S and o hated it.
The fact some reviewers are seeing poor displays shouldn't be glossed over though. They have nothing to gain from bashing it, particularly the likes of Detroit Borg who I find extremely fair and one of the best reviewers out there. If he has a bad unit, then there is no agenda there.
If I'm honest I'm totally out off the XL 2 myself now. I was not convinced on the design of it all on reveal, and the screen issues are a concern. Thankfully there's still the regular sized pixel although that comes with its own design flaws (bezels!).
For me I think I may wait it out. The iPhone X is looking more appealing day by day for me which I never thought I'd say. But I've not been on iOS for a while now so going back might be a nice change.
Looking forward to reading everyones Pixel thoughts later on anyway
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I had a yellow display on an iPhone 5S and o hated it.
The fact some reviewers are seeing poor displays shouldn't be glossed over though. They have nothing to gain from bashing it, particularly the likes of Detroit Borg who I find extremely fair and one of the best reviewers out there. If he has a bad unit, then there is no agenda there.
If I'm honest I'm totally out off the XL 2 myself now. I was not convinced on the design of it all on reveal, and the screen issues are a concern. Thankfully there's still the regular sized pixel although that comes with its own design flaws (bezels!).
For me I think I may wait it out. The iPhone X is looking more appealing day by day for me which I never thought I'd say. But I've not been on iOS for a while now so going back might be a nice change.
Looking forward to reading everyones Pixel thoughts later on anyway
.I detest Samsung phones just so you know. I'm very particular with my tech and I'm an unbashed Google fan - I bought every Nexus from the Galaxy Nexus to a host of LG and Sony devices. Do you know what my last Samsung phone was? A Note 3.
Everyone can form their opinions and you can do so when you get your device. But the fact of the matter is, Google dropped the ball big time when it came to the screen of the Pixel 2 XL. How is it that a mid range phone has a good screen and you don't hear complaints, but every second person out there has issues with the XL screen? A $1000 devices shouldn't see so many complaints and we need to hold Google accountable for this.
Again, end of the day it is your choice. If you are happy with a faulty screen that requires you to hold it at a certain angle to see true colors, that is your choice. I'm very particular when I spend a grand on a phone, and I suspect other people are as well.
Uh oh. A person on the internet didn't like something.
Seems Artem from AndroidPolice is also not happy with the screen
https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/920854863696633857
"First impressions coming from the Pixel XL's OLED screen, the Pixel 2 XL's OLED truly is bad. Viewing angles are terrible, colors look dead.."
"Now that I've booted the Pixel 2 XL all the way and verified Vivid Colors is on, I can confirm that LG's OLED display is shockingly awful."
"And then there's the grain... it's bad. When you're looking at solid colors, you see sandpaper. It's hard to demo because of moire effect."
"Look at the reds and yellows in the Google logo. Morbid, dead, pale."
https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/920854863696633857
"First impressions coming from the Pixel XL's OLED screen, the Pixel 2 XL's OLED truly is bad. Viewing angles are terrible, colors look dead.."
"Now that I've booted the Pixel 2 XL all the way and verified Vivid Colors is on, I can confirm that LG's OLED display is shockingly awful."
"And then there's the grain... it's bad. When you're looking at solid colors, you see sandpaper. It's hard to demo because of moire effect."
"Look at the reds and yellows in the Google logo. Morbid, dead, pale."
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With all this negative press about the screen, I wonder if Google will issue an update to change the display settings a bit?
Hmm its strange as those pictures comparing to last years XL don't look 'pale' or 'washed out' to me.
It just looks 'cool' as if the blue tinge is higher whereas the original on the left seems much warmer and almost yellow.
But reds do look a bit off. I read somewhere else reds appear almost brown, and that does look to be the case.
It just looks 'cool' as if the blue tinge is higher whereas the original on the left seems much warmer and almost yellow.
But reds do look a bit off. I read somewhere else reds appear almost brown, and that does look to be the case.
Here is another Reddit posters Pixel XL 2 screen having another strange issue. Buyers Beware....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBNnFKbFhVQUctVzQ/view
Screen burn in already? Pixel 2 XL (PROOF)
Received the phone earlier this morning, and under 24hrs, screen burning formed and then the panel went crazy for a bit, which I luckily got on camera as well. Defective device? Or an inevitable disease spreading through all units?
Note: It kicked in within an hour of activating night light, but toggling it off and restarting did not solve the issue. Damn me for trying this "feature" before bed.
Photo:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBbHF4Z2dMMzI2YzA/view?usp=drivesdk
Video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBNnFKbFhVQUctVzQ/view?usp=drivesdk
And I thought the USB c audio dongle was bad enough...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77bw9a/aux_sucks/
What to do now? Return? Replace? Throw at the wall?
Edit: It's getting crazier...Another video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBanRhNVREbFdUWms/view?usp=drivesdk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77dde2/screen_burn_in_already_pixel_2_xl_proof/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBNnFKbFhVQUctVzQ/view
Screen burn in already? Pixel 2 XL (PROOF)
Received the phone earlier this morning, and under 24hrs, screen burning formed and then the panel went crazy for a bit, which I luckily got on camera as well. Defective device? Or an inevitable disease spreading through all units?
Note: It kicked in within an hour of activating night light, but toggling it off and restarting did not solve the issue. Damn me for trying this "feature" before bed.
Photo:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBbHF4Z2dMMzI2YzA/view?usp=drivesdk
Video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBNnFKbFhVQUctVzQ/view?usp=drivesdk
And I thought the USB c audio dongle was bad enough...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77bw9a/aux_sucks/
What to do now? Return? Replace? Throw at the wall?
Edit: It's getting crazier...Another video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ihTw1ImISBanRhNVREbFdUWms/view?usp=drivesdk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77dde2/screen_burn_in_already_pixel_2_xl_proof/
I've cancelled my Pixel 2 XL, just to expensive to read these issues. Unexceptable.
Really hope Google sort this out and folks who hang on there get a good screen.
Really hope Google sort this out and folks who hang on there get a good screen.
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You have to download them to make them work.
I'm sending mine back, too many screen issues. Everything else about the phone though is top notch.
You know, up till this point in the morning I was looking forward to this device, to give another chance with possibly using a Nexus / Pixel device as an actual daily driver instead of having an inconsistent and problematic issues that make me end up buying another device and using the Nexus / Pixel device as nothing more then a glorified pocket tablet on wifi because I don't trust the thing to the most basic of tasks, like sending text messages.
Couple that with I still haven't been charged and I've waited and put other purchases on hold.
Then seeing the new issues pop up.
I've been leary for a while, one reason I skipped the first gen because the bad luck and issues I've had with previous devices.
I don't know. Up to this morning I was sure, now I'm sitting on the fence about possibly canceling my pre order...
Couple that with I still haven't been charged and I've waited and put other purchases on hold.
Then seeing the new issues pop up.
I've been leary for a while, one reason I skipped the first gen because the bad luck and issues I've had with previous devices.
I don't know. Up to this morning I was sure, now I'm sitting on the fence about possibly canceling my pre order...
Some of the verbiage being used by these reviewers is funny lol words like dead, morbid etc...
Well, if you makes you feel any better, for every Vlad Savov there's a Dieter Bohn. Dieter seems to indicate it's not a big deal.
But then again, if you're getting phone review from Vlad Savov, you're probably not getting a good picture anyway. It's like having your 5 year old child teach you chemistry.
But then again, if you're getting phone review from Vlad Savov, you're probably not getting a good picture anyway. It's like having your 5 year old child teach you chemistry.
Aww, I like the colors! I can’t tell about the grain or moire very well without seeing it in person. But out of all the bad screen demos I’ve seen so far, that one is the least concerning. I wish we didn’t have to wait until next week for my husband’s Pixel 2XL to arrive. I really want to see for myself what is up with these displays.Seems Artem from AndroidPolice is also not happy with the screen
https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/920854863696633857
"First impressions coming from the Pixel XL's OLED screen, the Pixel 2 XL's OLED truly is bad. Viewing angles are terrible, colors look dead.."
"Now that I've booted the Pixel 2 XL all the way and verified Vivid Colors is on, I can confirm that LG's OLED display is shockingly awful."
"And then there's the grain... it's bad. When you're looking at solid colors, you see sandpaper. It's hard to demo because of moire effect."
"Look at the reds and yellows in the Google logo. Morbid, dead, pale."
One thing that concerns me about a lot of the stuff I’m reading is that people who love that over saturated Samsung look are going to end up pushing Google to go to that look.
Since the people who advocate that look are so vocal and pushy in all of these tech blogs about how superior it is, I will be assertive and perhaps obnoxious and state how much I straight up hate it. I despise it. I hate how it destroys subtle details and colors in an image. Every time I go and switch off the Adaptive mode and see how pretty and detailed and realistic the sample pictures look without that hideous cartoonish coloring, I am astounded that the saturated look has become such “a thing”. I’m trying to respect that everyone has their preferences, but I’m worried that if I and folks who share my views continue to be demure and quiet and defer to the prevailing saturated look crowd, our equally legitimate preferences are going to be consigned to the rubbish heap in an effort to please the masses and make this more marketable.
In non Adaptive mode, (on a S8+ that doesn’t have pink stain disease) the display does have beautiful accurate colors and definitely sets the bar high and Google should definitely apsire to such quality at the prices they are charging. I’m hoping they get close enough this year with the non defective units and that next year they give good trade in values at update time for this year’s devices. Next year they had better get it right! I’m not as fussed about this year because frankly I did not even expect they had gotten as far as they did on their manufacturing deals with HTC and LG.
While I share the same concern as many of you, I think it's important to point out that there have been all sorts of screen catastrophies with previous iPhone, iPad, and Mac launches as well. YMMV.
Since they are really pushing photography with this thing and how Central to me photography is and one major reason for being interested in this device, the screen throws a major wrinkle in my ideas for use.
Oh now he posted 2 reddit posts.... I wonder how many we could find with problems with the Note 8s?