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mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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Yeah. Didn’t the Galaxy S4 do all that? Just seems like an odd choice of technology to push where something like improved battery life actually gets people talking.

Difference is Samsung air gesture uses proximity sensor which has very limited range (about 2 inches) and resolution (basically proximity sense and simple motions) in comparison to what's been demonstrated with Project Soli radar with up to 15 meter or 590 inches range and sub mm resolution. Project Soli is a game changer for smart air gestures on the level of paper map to Google Maps with GPS.


 
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co.ag.2005

macrumors 68020
Jun 17, 2009
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Fort Worth, TX
It sounds like Pixel 4 is starting at $799, 4 XL at $899 in the USA. Same prices as the Pixel 3 lineup, according to Droid-Life.com

 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,079
19,072
US
Project Soli might show some real promise....

Aside from the hand-waving tricks, the Project Soli sensors will also enable 3D facial unlocking and password protection, a biometric that’s sorely lacking from Android phones. According to Google’s description, it sounds even more advanced that Face ID, but we’ll need to put it to the test: “As you reach for Pixel 4, Soli proactively turns on the face unlock sensors, recognizing that you may want to unlock your phone. If the face unlock sensors and algorithms recognize you, the phone will open as you pick it up, all in one motion. Better yet, face unlock works in almost any orientation—even if you’re holding it upside down—and you can use it for secure payments and app authentication too.”

 
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slitherjef

macrumors 65816
Feb 8, 2012
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It's a long shot but I might be interested in a pixel watch. But it's probably vaporware or would have obscene pricing for what it is.

I'm probably going to miss the stream. Who is going to pre order right off the bat? It'd probably be an impulse purchase if I do...
 

co.ag.2005

macrumors 68020
Jun 17, 2009
2,365
1,810
Fort Worth, TX
It's a long shot but I might be interested in a pixel watch. But it's probably vaporware or would have obscene pricing for what it is.

I'm probably going to miss the stream. Who is going to pre order right off the bat? It'd probably be an impulse purchase if I do...

I won't pre-order right away unless T-Mobile does their JOD (jump on demand) program for the smaller Pixel with $0 down. I'm quite happy with my 11 Pro but would love to tinker with the 4 as well. If I were to just purchase via Google, then I'd wait for the price to drop, even if it's after the new year.
 
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tonybarnaby

macrumors 68020
Dec 3, 2017
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Google can't just get by on having the best camera by far anymore. Hopefully they adapt for the Pixel 5. I don't think they had any idea apple would make such a big stride this year. Pixel isn't the only game in town anymore if you demand a top tier camera. They had no competition with the 2 or the 3, and I believe they got a little complacent. I've always wanted a Pixel, but camera is last on my list and I won't pay top dollar for a phone that is known for its camera first and foremost. There are cheaper ways to get my stock Android fix.
 

Lava Lamp Freak

macrumors 68000
Jun 1, 2006
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624
I plan to wait and buy it at Best Buy at the end of the month. Hopefully by then we'll know if there are any issues that would be worth holding off for. It seems like every year there are some annoying issues at launch that require a software patch.
 
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5105973

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If this is true then I will have no reason to purchase the Pixel 4. I may as well get the iPhone 11 Pro.
Unless you’re in a rush I’d wait awhile. The iPhone 11 Pro is excellent hardware, that’s not a problem at all, it’s one of my top favorite phones of all time. But sweet baby ray, what the hell happened to iOS? o_O 🐞🐜🦗🦟🐛🐝
 

lavrishevo

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2007
1,864
204
NJ
2000 post and a member since 2007. Probably 90% the first 6 years. Who knows. Look, I'm not trying to set myself up one high horse. I'm just exclaiming what I see and come to realize.

The reality is I see a terrible addiction. I see it everywhere. I travel often with my job and all you see are people staring at their phones. Constantly. You go to restaurants and families are not talking and interacting. Everyone is absorbed into their own world and concerned about such trivial things in life. This absorption into being constantly entertained is really ****ing people up. And I work in technology... Lol

I found this within myself and it made me sick. It is detrimental to relationships and communication skills. My point is it really is a problem. This idea of being in constant connection to the internet, our social media, the desire for the latest and greatest, how amazing the camera zoom is, how much recognition and likes we get. This sick programming of being obsessed with oneself. I would suggest others attempt to analyze these attributes within themselves but I am fully aware I'm preaching to the wrong choir. I'm pretty sure most of you don't give a ****. But maybe a few do.

Give it a try sometime you might find out you really like it. Force yourself to leave you phone off. Force yourself to leave it at home. You will find yourself constantly checking you pocket or purse. You will feel disconnected at first but within a small amount of time you will feel relief and satisfaction.

No matter how hard we try these devices will not make you happy. The proof is that we crave for the newest and greatest and when we get it soon the novelty wears off quickly; we are in the same state we were before. Empty and searching for the next temporary high. We carry around multiple devices thinking this will make us happier but there is no real satisfaction in this.

Go out help other's. Volunteer and serve the poor. Join the boys and girls club. Give to those less fortunate. Donate to a family who can barely feed their children instead of buying another $1000 device that does the same exact thing your current device. It does not matter if you are religious / spiritual or not. Help other people and you will find a happiness and joy that nothing can compare.

I'm changing my life and I'm not going to worship the newest piece of technology anymore. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the emptiness that is the foundation of this addiction. This is my life, I don't know yours, but I do suggest you self analyze and think what truly is important in this life. And if you do disconnect a bit you will find the battery life of the pixel more than adequate. Had to work it in somehow. God bless and good luck. Please, help the less fortunate. There is no greater joy.
 
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Lava Lamp Freak

macrumors 68000
Jun 1, 2006
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I would suggest others attempt to analyze these attributes within themselves but I am fully aware I'm preaching to the wrong choir. I'm pretty sure most of you don't give a ****. But maybe a few do.

You've done the equivalent of going to D23 and telling people there's more to life than Disney and the next Star Wars film. This is a forum for people to discuss devices, so it shouldn't be surprising that people are discussing features of upcoming devices.

Personally, I've been into phones since long before the first iPhone. I remember getting excited about the Razr phone when it was first released. And I remember how life-changing it was when I got my first cell phone around 1997. And then the release of iPhone was an even bigger life-changing event.

There's no way I would go back to a time before smartphones existed! Life is much better now!
 

drinkingtea

macrumors 65816
Jan 31, 2016
1,240
3,271
2000 post and a member since 2007. Probably 90% the first 6 years. Who knows. Look, I'm not trying to set myself up one high horse. I'm just exclaiming what I see and come to realize.

The reality is I see a terrible addiction. I see it everywhere. I travel often with my job and all you see are people staring at their phones. Constantly. You go to restaurants and families are not talking and interacting. Everyone is absorbed into their own world and concerned about such trivial things in life. This absorption into being constantly entertained is really ****ing people up. And I work in technology... Lol

I found this within myself and it made me sick. It is detrimental to relationships and communication skills. My point is it really is a problem. This idea of being in constant connection to the internet, our social media, the desire for the latest and greatest, how amazing the camera zoom is, how much recognition and likes we get. This sick programming of being obsessed with oneself. I would suggest others attempt to analyze these attributes within themselves but I am fully aware I'm preaching to the wrong choir. I'm pretty sure most of you don't give a ****. But maybe a few do.

Give it a try sometime you might find out you really like it. Force yourself to leave you phone off. Force yourself to leave it at home. You will find yourself constantly checking you pocket or purse. You will feel disconnected at first but within a small amount of time you will feel relief and satisfaction.

No matter how hard we try these devices will not make you happy. The proof is that we crave for the newest and greatest and when we get it soon the novelty wears off quickly; we are in the same state we were before. Empty and searching for the next temporary high. We carry around multiple devices thinking this will make us happier but there is no real satisfaction in this.

Go out help other's. Volunteer and serve the poor. Join the boys and girls club. Give to those less fortunate. Donate to a family who can barely feed their children instead of buying another $1000 device that does the same exact thing your current device. It does not matter if you are religious / spiritual or not. Help other people and you will find a happiness and joy that nothing can compare.

I'm changing my life and I'm not going to worship the newest piece of technology anymore. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the emptiness that is the foundation of this addiction. This is my life, I don't know yours, but I do suggest you self analyze and think what truly is important in this life. And if you do disconnect a bit you will find the battery life of the pixel more than adequate. Had to work it in somehow. God bless and good luck. Please, help the less fortunate. There is no greater joy.
Do you feel better now?

I’m only on here to decide between iOS or Android for school. I do plenty of community service work while studying and working part-time, not that it’s any of your business. Get off your high horse, man, and stop acting like you’re better than people who are on this forum—a forum you’re an active member of.
 

5105973

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Sep 11, 2014
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2000 post and a member since 2007. Probably 90% the first 6 years. Who knows. Look, I'm not trying to set myself up one high horse. I'm just exclaiming what I see and come to realize.

The reality is I see a terrible addiction. I see it everywhere. I travel often with my job and all you see are people staring at their phones. Constantly. You go to restaurants and families are not talking and interacting. Everyone is absorbed into their own world and concerned about such trivial things in life. This absorption into being constantly entertained is really ****ing people up. And I work in technology... Lol

I found this within myself and it made me sick. It is detrimental to relationships and communication skills. My point is it really is a problem. This idea of being in constant connection to the internet, our social media, the desire for the latest and greatest, how amazing the camera zoom is, how much recognition and likes we get. This sick programming of being obsessed with oneself. I would suggest others attempt to analyze these attributes within themselves but I am fully aware I'm preaching to the wrong choir. I'm pretty sure most of you don't give a ****. But maybe a few do.

Give it a try sometime you might find out you really like it. Force yourself to leave you phone off. Force yourself to leave it at home. You will find yourself constantly checking you pocket or purse. You will feel disconnected at first but within a small amount of time you will feel relief and satisfaction.

No matter how hard we try these devices will not make you happy. The proof is that we crave for the newest and greatest and when we get it soon the novelty wears off quickly; we are in the same state we were before. Empty and searching for the next temporary high. We carry around multiple devices thinking this will make us happier but there is no real satisfaction in this.

Go out help other's. Volunteer and serve the poor. Join the boys and girls club. Give to those less fortunate. Donate to a family who can barely feed their children instead of buying another $1000 device that does the same exact thing your current device. It does not matter if you are religious / spiritual or not. Help other people and you will find a happiness and joy that nothing can compare.

I'm changing my life and I'm not going to worship the newest piece of technology anymore. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the emptiness that is the foundation of this addiction. This is my life, I don't know yours, but I do suggest you self analyze and think what truly is important in this life. And if you do disconnect a bit you will find the battery life of the pixel more than adequate. Had to work it in somehow. God bless and good luck. Please, help the less fortunate. There is no greater joy.
That’s a very thoughtful insight and very spot on about many ills our society and we as people face as we disengage from each other to engage with our devices.

However it makes many assumptions of us based on one small cross section of our daily lives as represented by our forum posts here.

Rest assured you’re not shouting into the wind. People actually are taking notice things are at unhealthy levels. But there’s also a lot of good to be found in our ability to reach across the miles on our gadgets and touch the lives of people in a positive way.

It’s all about balance. I’ve found my balance. You do me a great disservice assuming I haven’t.
 

JPNFRK7

macrumors 6502a
Sep 27, 2012
599
412
California
I’ve been going back and forth between the S10 and Pixel 4. I was getting wrapped up in the comments saying that the battery wasnt going to be enough and this wasnt the Google phone to get. After seeing some of the pictures of the front of the Pixel today and seeing it in its final form, im sold. I can only hope that Google offers a decent trade in for my Pixel 2 and ill pull the trigger.

edit to add: I have never missed a ultra wide angle lens on my phone since having my Pixel 2. If anything I always wanted a lens that wasnt so wide so that I didnt have to zoom and kill the quality of the picture. I think the regular pixel lens will be complimented nicely by the telephoto lens.
 
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AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Original poster
Oct 20, 2011
12,699
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Between the price and the competitive price of iPhone 11, this falls solidly in the "wait and see" category. Pixels always get discounted towards the end of November.

As is, I don't think $799 is a compelling enough price tag.
 

mjschabow

macrumors 601
Dec 25, 2013
4,924
6,239
Dat battery life doe. But seriously, I can’t commit to a phone if it doesn’t have a solid battery life.

And the funny thing with battery life...

95% of the time, I have enough chargers around me where battery isn’t a huge deal. But moments like this coming Sunday where I’ll be at Lambeau to see the Packers/Raiders, and probably start tailgating at 8am, and hitting up bars after, taking tons of pics and videos, uploading to social media, and congested data is when you really appreciate a phone that can go the distance.
 

nospleen

macrumors 68030
Dec 8, 2002
2,726
1,591
Texas
And the funny thing with battery life...

95% of the time, I have enough chargers around me where battery isn’t a huge deal. But moments like this coming Sunday where I’ll be at Lambeau to see the Packers/Raiders, and probably start tailgating at 8am, and hitting up bars after, taking tons of pics and videos, uploading to social media, and congested data is when you really appreciate a phone that can go the distance.

Going to a Raiders game, I'd definitely save the battery for possible video evidence. Wear a cheesehead for some padding. Lol

In all seriousness, very cool and awesome place to watch a game.
 

mjschabow

macrumors 601
Dec 25, 2013
4,924
6,239
Going to a Raiders game, I'd definitely save the battery for possible video evidence. Wear a cheesehead for some padding. Lol

In all seriousness, very cool and awesome place to watch a game.

Haha right? Yeah other than suffering through awful winters and short summers, living 10 minutes from Lambeau and attending a game pretty much whenever I feel like is tough to beat!
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Original poster
Oct 20, 2011
12,699
10,567
Austin, TX
And the funny thing with battery life...

95% of the time, I have enough chargers around me where battery isn’t a huge deal. But moments like this coming Sunday where I’ll be at Lambeau to see the Packers/Raiders, and probably start tailgating at 8am, and hitting up bars after, taking tons of pics and videos, uploading to social media, and congested data is when you really appreciate a phone that can go the distance.
I used to think that way. Now with the iPhone 11 Pro Max I don't know where half my chargers are anymore because the battery is out of this world. Usually I can get two days out of the thing.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,079
19,072
US
I don't expect the Pixel 4 XL battery to be as good as my 11 pro max. But I am ok with that to be honest. My Pixel 3 XL battery wasn't as good as my Xs Max as well. That didn't stop me from enjoying the P3 XL. It was one of my favorite phones. Great user experience
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
10,625
11,298
There's the saying, "work smarter, not harder". If given a choice most would choose smarter since you're not only saving yourself time but also battery when offloading mundane tasks like, for example, making reservations and appointments to Google Assistant AI.
 

michael9891

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Sep 26, 2016
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2000 post and a member since 2007. Probably 90% the first 6 years. Who knows. Look, I'm not trying to set myself up one high horse. I'm just exclaiming what I see and come to realize.

The reality is I see a terrible addiction. I see it everywhere. I travel often with my job and all you see are people staring at their phones. Constantly. You go to restaurants and families are not talking and interacting. Everyone is absorbed into their own world and concerned about such trivial things in life. This absorption into being constantly entertained is really ****ing people up. And I work in technology... Lol

I found this within myself and it made me sick. It is detrimental to relationships and communication skills. My point is it really is a problem. This idea of being in constant connection to the internet, our social media, the desire for the latest and greatest, how amazing the camera zoom is, how much recognition and likes we get. This sick programming of being obsessed with oneself. I would suggest others attempt to analyze these attributes within themselves but I am fully aware I'm preaching to the wrong choir. I'm pretty sure most of you don't give a ****. But maybe a few do.

Give it a try sometime you might find out you really like it. Force yourself to leave you phone off. Force yourself to leave it at home. You will find yourself constantly checking you pocket or purse. You will feel disconnected at first but within a small amount of time you will feel relief and satisfaction.

No matter how hard we try these devices will not make you happy. The proof is that we crave for the newest and greatest and when we get it soon the novelty wears off quickly; we are in the same state we were before. Empty and searching for the next temporary high. We carry around multiple devices thinking this will make us happier but there is no real satisfaction in this.

Go out help other's. Volunteer and serve the poor. Join the boys and girls club. Give to those less fortunate. Donate to a family who can barely feed their children instead of buying another $1000 device that does the same exact thing your current device. It does not matter if you are religious / spiritual or not. Help other people and you will find a happiness and joy that nothing can compare.

I'm changing my life and I'm not going to worship the newest piece of technology anymore. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the emptiness that is the foundation of this addiction. This is my life, I don't know yours, but I do suggest you self analyze and think what truly is important in this life. And if you do disconnect a bit you will find the battery life of the pixel more than adequate. Had to work it in somehow. God bless and good luck. Please, help the less fortunate. There is no greater joy.
Yeah, still going to want that better battery life.

Perhaps your life lessons post is more suited to a different section. I'm fully aware how much people use smartphones and the negatives. I don't come to the Pixel 4 thread for tips on how to live my life and how to spend my money from a stranger.
 
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