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Google Pixel 4/Pixel 4 XL

Aneres11

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drinkingtea said:
No matter what you do, you will always have battery issues with the Pixel 4. The battery will be much worse in a year. Your best solution is to either get a Pixel 4 XL or a different phone or just put up with the regular 4. It’s really baffling and even frustrating to see people complain about the 4’s battery life when they should have known how bad it was prior to purchasing the phone from reviews and articles. The information was out there. 🤷‍♀️
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Respectfully, this kind of post just annoys me.
So I can't complain because I bought the phone despite reviewers saying battery life is bad? I couldn't try it for myself in the 14 day window to see how it was on my personal usage?

The advice about buying an XL is also ridiculous as they're two completely different phones in terms of size and weight and ergonomics. I don't like larger phones.

For what it's worth, battery saver has done the trick wonderfully.

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So where last week I was down to 59% after a day sat in a locker, today I'm here. Sure, there's still some idle drain going on even with saver being on, but no where near what it was.

I've now turned battery saver off, AoD back on, and that will easily get me through to bed time now.
 
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Aneres11 said:
Respectfully, this kind of post just annoys me.
So I can't complain because I bought the phone despite reviewers saying battery life is bad? I couldn't try it for myself in the 14 day window to see how it was on my personal usage?

The advice about buying an XL is also ridiculous as they're two completely different phones in terms of size and weight and ergonomics. I don't like larger phones.

For what it's worth, battery saver has done the trick wonderfully.

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So where last week I was down to 59% after a day sat in a locker, today I'm here. Sure, there's still some idle drain going on even with saver being on, but no where near what it was.

I've now turned battery saver off, AoD back on, and that will easily get me through to bed time now.
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I’m not saying you can’t complain, but you knew what you were getting yourself into. There are so many threads about Pixel 4 battery disappointment in Reddit and I just shrug my shoulders and scroll on. It was known the battery was going to be an issue BEFORE the phone was even released. If battery is that important to you, get the 4 XL. I know, I know. It’s too big.

It’s ridiculous that you even have to do all of that to get *somewhat* decent battery life. In a year, I doubt the battery will last more than two hours.
 
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Aneres11 said:
Respectfully, this kind of post just annoys me.
So I can't complain because I bought the phone despite reviewers saying battery life is bad? I couldn't try it for myself in the 14 day window to see how it was on my personal usage?

The advice about buying an XL is also ridiculous as they're two completely different phones in terms of size and weight and ergonomics. I don't like larger phones.

For what it's worth, battery saver has done the trick wonderfully.

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So where last week I was down to 59% after a day sat in a locker, today I'm here. Sure, there's still some idle drain going on even with saver being on, but no where near what it was.

I've now turned battery saver off, AoD back on, and that will easily get me through to bed time now.
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Have you considered putting a NFC tag in your locker and setting it up with a routine to automatically change the respective settings you need and then toggle back when you leave? Should simplify the process so you don’t have to manually configure every time.
 
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drinkingtea said:
I’m not saying you can’t complain, but you knew what you were getting yourself into. There are so many threads about Pixel 4 battery disappointment in Reddit and I just shrug my shoulders and scroll on. It was known the battery was going to be an issue BEFORE the phone was even released. If battery is that important to you, get the 4 XL. I know, I know. It’s too big.

It’s ridiculous that you even have to do all of that to get *somewhat* decent battery life. In a year, I doubt the battery will last more than two hours.
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No where did I read that the Pixel 4 loses 40% battery whilst not being used.

Sure, the battery was always going to be sacrificed but I knew that when I made my purchase. I can live with a small battery if it's optimised correctly like Sony does with the small batteries in their Xperia lines.

Instead, this drains whilst nothing is happening. That is not a "small battery" problem. It's a phone problem.
So I'll consider that carefully during the rest of my 14 days.

But I'll likely be moaning about it during, so pop me on the ignore list if it will annoy you. :)
 
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How do I take those astronomy shots? I assume there's a setting in the camera, abd I just placed it on a flat surface with screen on table, and let it see a few minutes?
 
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Aneres11 said:
Instead, this drains whilst nothing is happening. That is not a "small battery" problem. It's a phone problem.
So I'll consider that carefully during the rest of my 14 days.
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What was you last phone and how did it respond when left in a locker all day?

When you set your phone inside of a locker, it seems to me that you are putting it in the equivalent of a Faraday cage. I would not be surprised by significant drain in such a situation as the phone would be trying very hard to make contact with a cell site.

I would be very curious to read what happens if you follow noobinator's suggestion and leave it in airplane mode one day when it is sitting in your locker.
 
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Breaking Good said:
What was you last phone and how did it respond when left in a locker all day?

When you set your phone inside of a locker, it seems to me that you are putting it in the equivalent of a Faraday cage. I would not be surprised by significant drain in such a situation as the phone would be trying very hard to make contact with a cell site.

I would be very curious to read what happens if you follow noobinator's suggestion and leave it in airplane mode one day when it is sitting in your locker.
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Oh god not again.
So I'll say it once more for anyone who missed it.

I go through a lot of phones. Since my phones have been in a locker, outside the office, NO OTHER phone has EVER drained battery like this and the Pixel 3.
So that's iPhone XR, Note 10, S10, Xperia 1, iPhone 11, and Huawei P30.
Not one. They all drain the same as they would if they were sat on a desk out of the locker.
This is not a "phone looking for signal" issue hence no battery. There's signal galore in my office location and the lockers are cheap thin flimsy things that have open air cracks in the door and around the door frame.

This is a Pixel issue. It happened on the Pixel 3 and it's the same on the Pixel 4. If I were to break my employees policy and take my phone into my office in my bag (prohibited), I would waged a large sum of money that the drain would be the same as if it were sat in it's locker.

And that's the last of the locker talk for 2019. :)
 
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big samm said:
Just broke my own record... 8hrs + Sot
Mostly indoor with 30 mins outside on lte with smooth display off, Aod on, motion sense on except for skipping tracks.
I live next to a tower, so that must help and calls come thru wifi calling. Brightness was around 50-60%. This little test was conducted in a ideal condition. This is NOT everyday's life! But it's still nice to see how far this battery can go.
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Since you live next to a cell tower, I would be very curious to see how far you could get with WiFi turned off.

This is just my experience, but I feel that WiFi is a bigger drain than cellular when using an Android device. I think the reason for this is that Android is constantly pinging Google's servers when you are on WiFi because it is expected to be free. But it contacts Google's servers less so when on cellular.
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Aneres11 said:
Oh god not again.
So I'll say it once more for anyone who missed it.

I go through a lot of phones. Since my phones have been in a locker, outside the office, NO OTHER phone has EVER drained battery like this and the Pixel 3.
So that's iPhone XR, Note 10, S10, Xperia 1, iPhone 11, and Huawei P30.
Not one. They all drain the same as they would if they were sat on a desk out of the locker.
This is not a "phone looking for signal" issue hence no battery. There's signal galore in my office location and the lockers are cheap thin flimsy things that have open air cracks in the door and around the door frame.

This is a Pixel issue. It happened on the Pixel 3 and it's the same on the Pixel 4. If I were to break my employees policy and take my phone into my office in my bag (prohibited), I would waged a large sum of money that the drain would be the same as if it were sat in it's locker.

And that's the last of the locker talk for 2019. :)
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My apologies, I thought I have been following this thread fairly close and didn't recall any mention of your previous phones. Obviously I missed it. I would not expect you to violate your employer's policies just to prove a point.
 
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Breaking Good said:
Since you live next to a cell tower, I would be very curious to see how far you could get with WiFi turned off.

This is just my experience, but I feel that WiFi is a bigger drain than cellular when using an Android device. I think the reason for this is that Android is constantly pinging Google's servers when you are on WiFi because it is expected to be free. But it contacts Google's servers less so when on cellular.
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My apologies, I thought I have been following this thread fairly close and didn't recall any mention of your previous phones. Obviously I missed it. I would not expect you to violate your employer's policies just to prove a point.
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Ha it's cool it's not this thread ot was discussed in to be fair, it would be the Pixel 3 one. It's a long running thing with this sub forum. :)

The locker gets brought up a few times whenever I post. :p
 
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My Pixel 4 XL still has not gotten the update. But my old Pixel 3 XL did, and my Wife's 2 XL did as well.
 
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I’m disappointed at the lack of UFO’s in that picture @Aneres11
Chrisblond007 said:
www.phonearena.com

Pixel 4 XL bend test reveals Google's newest flagship has a shocking durability problem

A rigorous Pixel 4 XL durability test suggests Google's latest high-end smartphone might not even be as well-built and robust as the company's far cheaper Pixel 3a.
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Yikes. Did they learn nothing from the iphone 6 days? But honestly this isn't unexpected. He easily snapped Pixels before. I keep a screen protector and rigid case on my Pixel 2 and 3XL most of the time. They're both very light phones so they have held up to drops well so far. The cases protect them well.
 
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These antenna design (plastic bands between aluminum shell) is not new, and plenty of cheap Chinese phones don't have issues with build quality despite having these similar antenna design. Yet Google managed to go back in time and didn't figure these out? Huh.

Did Jonny Ive do a consultancy contract with Google for the Pixel 4 or something? :D
 
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I’m disappointed at the lack of UFO’s in that picture @Aneres11

Yikes. Did they learn nothing from the iphone 6 days? But honestly this isn't unexpected. He easily snapped Pixels before. I keep a screen protector and rigid case on my Pixel 2 and 3XL most of the time. They're both very light phones so they have held up to drops well so far. The cases protect them well.
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I have a lot of expensive items in my possession that would break if I bend them with all my might. I tend to take better care of my valuables than that. 😂
 
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