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8gb of ram is good to see. No excuse to short on that ram.
It looks interesting but that $700 guesstimate is painful to me. I would not rule this one out if I end up liking my 4a, but I’d wait for a really good sale. Or I’d consider it a step in the right direction and ride out the year until Pixel 6, leaping off the “a” train. Maybe. It all depends on how happy I am with the 4a. I never went for a budget pick before. This year on iOS I have the SE. For Android it’s the 4a.

I’m eager to see where Google takes the Pixels. If they strike the right balance between quality and reliability and price, I will stop my Samsung upgrades and keep on the Pixel Path.

With Samsung I’m starting to pay too high a premium for things I don’t need or want on their slab phones. The pink S20 slab I currently own should hold me long enough for them to come out with a foldable I may want to trade it for. This year their foldable phones don’t fit my budget. I’m another year away from contemplating their foldable offerings.
 
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It looks interesting but that $700 guesstimate is painful to me. I would not rule this one out if I end up liking my 4a, but I’d wait for a really good sale. Or I’d consider it a step in the right direction and ride out the year until Pixel 6, leaping off the “a” train. Maybe. It all depends on how happy I am with the 4a. I never went for a budget pick before. This year on iOS I have the SE. For Android it’s the 4a.

I’m eager to see where Google takes the Pixels. If they strike the right balance between quality and reliability and price, I will stop my Samsung upgrades and keep on the Pixel Path.

With Samsung I’m starting to pay too high a premium for things I don’t need or want on their slab phones. The pink S20 slab I currently own should hold me long enough for them to come out with a foldable I may want to trade it for. This year their foldable phones don’t fit my budget. I’m another year away from contemplating their foldable offerings.
I might be a year away from getting a foldable phone as well while they evolve. But the Fold 2 looks incredible.
 
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The new Notes are great but not much different or better compared to the S20.

But that's how it's always been with the S and Note series... only distinguishing feature between the two is the S-Pen. Whenever the S Series launch at the beginning of the year... we tend to discover that features carry over to the Note series.
 
But that's how it's always been with the S and Note series... only distinguishing feature between the two is the S-Pen. Whenever the S Series launch at the beginning of the year... we tend to discover that features carry over to the Note series.

Oh I totally agree. I'm just saying in general, fall is when the big phones drop and there's not a single exciting phone this year. Even though in a vacuum the Note is a pretty amazing device.
 
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It looks interesting but that $700 guesstimate is painful to me. I would not rule this one out if I end up liking my 4a, but I’d wait for a really good sale. Or I’d consider it a step in the right direction and ride out the year until Pixel 6, leaping off the “a” train. Maybe. It all depends on how happy I am with the 4a. I never went for a budget pick before. This year on iOS I have the SE. For Android it’s the 4a.

I’m eager to see where Google takes the Pixels. If they strike the right balance between quality and reliability and price, I will stop my Samsung upgrades and keep on the Pixel Path.

With Samsung I’m starting to pay too high a premium for things I don’t need or want on their slab phones. The pink S20 slab I currently own should hold me long enough for them to come out with a foldable I may want to trade it for. This year their foldable phones don’t fit my budget. I’m another year away from contemplating their foldable offerings.

$700 with the rumored specs is probably still too expensive but if you get $100 off it will probably be a pretty good deal.

The biggest things for me are will performance be good enough with the mid range chip? Will they finally include a sufficient battery? And will face unlock remain?
 
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$700 with the rumored specs is probably still too expensive but if you get $100 off it will probably be a pretty good deal.

The biggest things for me are will performance be good enough with the mid range chip? Will they finally include a sufficient battery? And will face unlock remain?
I have the Oneplus Nord which uses the chip the Pixel 5 is rumoured to come with.

I can tell you from my experience over the last couple of days that you have nothing to worry about. The performance on the Nord is blazing quick, and I notice no difference in daily operation from my S20 or 11 Pro. No stutters or hiccups so far.
 
$700 with the rumored specs is probably still too expensive but if you get $100 off it will probably be a pretty good deal.

The biggest things for me are will performance be good enough with the mid range chip? Will they finally include a sufficient battery? And will face unlock remain?
If history repeats itself (at least in the U.S.) Best Buy will have a nice discount on the Pixel 5 around black Friday. That's when I do my annual Pixel shopping, aside from the 3a last year. Usually they do $300 to $400 off, so it'd be a steal if they do the same for the Pixel 5. Fingers crossed. Even if they do $150 off, it would be an instant buy for me.
 
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So the pixel 5 will be a 6.7 inch screen basically with 120hz
Yeah too big for my liking and why I ordered the 4a.
 
It’s just hard to see what direction google are going here.
Seems they are going back to affordable devices which is how they started out.

That is too say started out as Google phones being affordable,.. not the Pixels.
Seems they are going back to their roots which is fine with me. Flagships cost too much now.
 
I’m bummed. I just had to cancel my 4a that I was really looking forward to (yay headphone jack!) because I figured out the display has a high likelihood of giving me eye strain and/or migraines. I didn’t realize like an idiot until I did a feature for feature comparison that the 4a uses OLED and my 3XL uses AMOLED, with a refresh rate my nervous system can handle. I saw in videos how bad the display flicker on the 4a is vs another OLED display on the Nord. They’ve got the screen refresh turned too far down on the 4a. I’m keeping my 3XL. I’m not sure I’m going to a Pixel 5. I don’t want to be paying for another flagship phone this year. Especially not one that’s big.
 
Anyone see the leaks that the Pixel 5 will have a 3080 mah battery? Google will never learn. If that’s true, I’m out on the Pixel 5 this year. Google keep thinking they can match Apple in battery size and get the same battery life out of it and they’re just wrong. Android is more power hungry. Just accept it and add a big enough battery.
 
https://www.phonearena.com/news/google-pixel-5-5g-battery-capacity-leak_id126675

Seriously, this better not be true. WTF Google why can't you give us a killer smartphone? I'm not asking or much just these main things;

- Huge battery, at least 4,500mAh ( This 3,080mAh in the P5 will be a joke, and first Pixel I don't buy )
- Bright vibrant display, on par with the iPhone 11 Pro and new Samsung Galaxy screens
- 8GB RAM for smooth performance
- Minimal bezels, ditch the Face unlock, because it's ok, doesn't always work best.
- Smooth fluid UI like Oxygen OS, but keeping it bare bones stock Android.

That's about it for me

Back to this rumored leak about the small battery size for the Pixel 5, come on Google, after the disastrous reviews of the Pixel 4 / 4 XL for crap battery life, you would think this year they'd over compensate and go extra large, of at least 4,000mAh, but even today for Android that's just mediocre for a battery. But a 3,080mAh size battery for Pixel 5? Are you ****ing kidding me? I hope that's just for tiny Pixel 5, and there's a 5 XL with a giant battery, if not, I'm done. I'll go OnePlus next or a discounted Samsung Galaxy S20 or something.
 
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I wonder if they will upgrade the sensor. At least on Pixel 5. They can still compete with modern flagships with the old IMX363 sensor they are using but imagine what they could do with a nice, new big sensor.
 
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It's to the point where I think they just kill features for pure enjoyment.

Yup. At this point, unless the rumors are dramatically wrong, Google has finally broken me of my loyalty to the Pixel line. I just don't understand their vision or direction. It feels like they have no serious commitment to their flagship level of phones anymore. At this point, they really should just go all in on their Pixel 'a' line and leave it at that as those are genuinely competitive in the midrange segment.
 
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Yup. At this point, unless the rumors are dramatically wrong, Google has finally broken me of my loyalty to the Pixel line. I just don't understand their vision or direction. It feels like that have no serious commitment to their flagship level of phones anymore. At this point, they really should just go all in on their Pixel 'a' line and leave it at that as those are genuinely competitive in the midrange segment.
yep...now we see why a lot developers and companies were slow to make changes to adopt Face Unlock.
It was here today and gone tomorrow....
 
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Wow...Now I really do wish I went in on the N20U...I was going to trade in the Pixel 4XL for that, but then thought maybe to wait it out for the 5...but this is just lacking so much
 
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With no rumours on any new features, it looks like a very poor showing from Google this year for their "flagship". No wide angle, no face unlock, probably no new sensor are not exactly the features I'm looking for.
 
The thing is, face unlock for the Pixel 4 was great. Soli was a gimmick but the face unlock itself shouldnt be abandoned. It was one of the highlights of that phone.

Honestly, they shouldve just made this model an spec bump update. Keep the same hardware which was pretty great, increase battery size (a little added bulk wont hurt the ergonomics), add an additional camera, add 5G , 8gb of ram, and the 700 series chip.

Instead it looks like they threw away the Pixel 4 mold, grabbed the Pixel 4a, and said...what can we add to this to justify a higher price and call it the Pixel 5. Slightly better processor, 5G, and higher refresh screen. Great, slap a $700 price tag on it.
 
The think they realized they can’t or won’t compete with the big dogs so they cut some corners to be a big player in the mid range. Face unlock is a casualty of this.
 
I have to wonder if the "mid-range" SoC being used will provide longer battery life with the same size battery.

I WANT to replace my phone and WANT it to be a Pixel. I'm on Fi, for full features of the plan I need either a Pixel or one of the few Motorola devices being offered. I'm hoping the 5 checks my boxes.
 
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People google thinks hey we have a great camera so thats enough

Will they add ultra wide this year though?
 
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