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Rumor has it the upcoming 4a pricing will start at $349 for the 128 GB base model. Link

If this is valid then that leaves plenty of headroom for the next 5/5XL to move down in price.
 
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A $50 reduction on the 3a while doubling the storage sounds a little optimistic.

Regardless, 64gb should not be an option on the 5/5XL. Storage costs so little and charging a $100 premium for an extra 64gb is a rip off.
 
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Don’t know if anyone’s posted this up. Potential smaller notch with a triple camera setup.

Much nicer than that other design that’s been floating about online.
 
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Don’t know if anyone’s posted this up. Potential smaller notch with a triple camera setup.

Much nicer than that other design that’s been floating about online.
Not triple rear camera though according to that link.
 

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6 3" screen is small for a Pixel XL.

It just needs a much larger battery, at least 4,500mAh. Enough RAM to keep it smooth no hiccups. A brighter display.
 
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Did you look at the images in the link? Looks like a triple setup to me.
Yes, but the description clearly says 2 rear cameras. So if they can't get the pic to match up with what's a thorough description, it tells me they're just guessing & have no insider info.
 

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Yes, but the description clearly says 2 rear cameras. So if they can't get the pic to match up with what's a thorough description, it tells me they're just guessing & have no insider info.

Everyone’s guessing at this point so...

Just thought I’d bring the images to people’s attention is all-no harm intended.
 
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Everyone’s guessing at this point so...

Just thought I’d bring the images to people’s attention is all-no harm intended.
I hope it does look like that on the back, would mean it gets the wide angle is deserves.

While I can live with a notch, not sure why Google would want to go back to one. Much prefer hole punch to a notch.
 

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Don’t know if anyone’s posted this up. Potential smaller notch with a triple camera setup.

Much nicer than that other design that’s been floating about online.
There's a design I could get behind.
 

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I hope it does look like that on the back, would mean it gets the wide angle is deserves.

While I can live with a notch, not sure why Google would want to go back to one. Much prefer hole punch to a notch.

Considering the phone needs the extra room for the scanning hardware, don’t think the hole punch is an option. I’d personally much rather have the thin top bezel all across the top vs. any notch or hole punch, especially considering how Android displays notification icons across the top. I have zero issues with the top bezel on my current 4 XL—not obsessed with bezels, especially when it improves functionality and doesn’t adversely affect reachability, etc.
 

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Considering the phone needs the extra room for the scanning hardware, don’t think the hole punch is an option. I’d personally much rather have the thin top bezel all across the top vs. any notch or hole punch, especially considering how Android displays notification icons across the top. I have zero issues with the top bezel on my current 4 XL—not obsessed with bezels, especially when it improves functionality and doesn’t adversely affect reachability, etc.
Yeah, completely forgot about that. I don't mind the 4XL forehead. So if they could fit that tech into a smaller notch, they could just as easily fit it into a slimmer forehead.
 

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I hope this is the design, I like it much much more that the leaked image. Also, the 128gb is standard? Been following this phone as a replacement for my og pixel (if it bites the dust).

love the android ecosystem, but caught in between sticking with android because I love google integration...or going apple because its build so good. Have played around with the iphone x and liking it but just so hard to commit away from android and og pixel-siri just doesn't do it)
 

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Considering the phone needs the extra room for the scanning hardware, don’t think the hole punch is an option. I’d personally much rather have the thin top bezel all across the top vs. any notch or hole punch, especially considering how Android displays notification icons across the top. I have zero issues with the top bezel on my current 4 XL—not obsessed with bezels, especially when it improves functionality and doesn’t adversely affect reachability, etc.

Going by this:


There might not be any need for the bezel....

All rumours at this point naturally.
 
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Going by this:


There might not be any need for the notch....

All rumours at this point naturally.
I hope they keep it. Motion Sense has great for me so far. It helps speed up the unlocking process with FaceUnlock.
After using FaceUnlock and FaceID I struggle using a phone without this kind of bio-metric unlock to be honest.
 
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Going by this:


There might not be any need for the bezel....

All rumours at this point naturally.

But the phone still has additional sensors so it’ll need a notch at a minimum. The notch on my 11 Pro Max doesn’t me but the iPhone doesn’t but notification info up on top the way Android does. I’d rather not have a notch interrupt the notification strip.
 

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I hope they keep it. Motion Sense has great for me so far. It helps speed up the unlocking process with FaceUnlock.
After using FaceUnlock and FaceID I struggle using a phone without this kind of bio-metric unlock to be honest.

They dont really need it to keep face unlock though. They are separate sensors. The only thing motion sense helps with is activation the face unlock sensor when you get near the phone. There are still proximity and gyro sensors that can help with this.

IMO motion sense was dead on arrival when the best functionality Google could offer was skipping tracks with hand motions. Right then you knew this didnt pan out like they had hoped. Which is fine, go big. But don't hang onto something that didnt work just so you dont have to admit failure.
 

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They dont really need it to keep face unlock though. They are separate sensors. The only thing motion sense helps with is activation the face unlock sensor when you get near the phone. There are still proximity and gyro sensors that can help with this.

IMO motion sense was dead on arrival when the best functionality Google could offer was skipping tracks with hand motions. Right then you knew this didnt pan out like they had hoped. Which is fine, go big. But don't hang onto something that didnt work just so you dont have to admit failure.
While motion sense is not required...it does help speed up the unlocking process much like raise to wake does for FaceID on iPhones.
 
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While motion sense is not required...it does help speed up the unlocking process much like raise to wake does for FaceID on iPhones.

Right. What I'm saying is, the only benefit it has for face unlock is really if you're unlocking without picking up for phone or speeds it up a little more by recognizing you're reaching for your phone before you touch it. But the phone also has raise to wake like the iPhone. There's no special sensor for raise to wake unless I'm mistaken. If I had to guess it probably just uses a combination of the gyroscope and maybe an ambient light sensor to identify a change of orientation, which are things most of today's flagships have.
 

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Right. What I'm saying is, the only benefit it has for face unlock is really if you're unlocking without picking up for phone or speeds it up a little more by recognizing you're reaching for your phone before you touch it. But the phone also has raise to wake like the iPhone. There's no special sensor for raise to wake unless I'm mistaken. If I had to guess it probably just uses a combination of the gyroscope and maybe an ambient light sensor to identify a change of orientation, which are things most of today's flagships have.
you're right...I just tested it. I turned off motion sense. I thought it was motion sense but it must have been raise to wake that i was seeing.
 

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The more I think about Google opting for the 765 SOC the more I think it's a bad move. I was all for it but the more I think about it, if Apple is putting the most powerful SOC on 5h4 marker in a $300 phone, Google can't cut corners on colouring power in their flagship device. If they want to shave cost, make it plastic or something. Don't cut cost in power.
 
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The more I think about Google opting for the 765 SOC the more I think it's a bad move. I was all for it but the more I think about it, if Apple is putting the most powerful SOC on 5h4 marker in a $300 phone, Google can't cut corners on colouring power in their flagship device. If they want to shave cost, make it plastic or something. Don't cut cost in power.

lol, have you been reading Reddit by any chance?

Google aren’t going to win either way are they? They go top end, charge top end prices like they did with the 4 and look at the response (Albeit their own fault regarding the battery (although battery use is dependent on the user)). So if they’ve listened to the user base which we ask all companies to do, they’ve gone with a more efficient chip that includes 5G, could potentially have a bigger battery which everyone wanted, would still do 90Hz, a potential ultrawide, all combined with their software and coming in at a reasonable $700, you’re saying that’s a mistake as well?

Damed if they do, damned if they don’t.
 
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lol, have you been reading Reddit by any chance?

Google aren’t going to win either way are they? They go top end, charge top end prices like they did with the 4 and look at the response (Albeit their own fault regarding the battery (although battery use is dependent on the user)). So if they’ve listened to the user base which we ask all companies to do, they’ve gone with a more efficient chip that includes 5G, could potentially have a bigger battery which everyone wanted, would still do 90Hz, a potential ultrawide, all combined with their software and coming in at a reasonable $700, you’re saying that’s a mistake as well?

Damed if they do, damned if they don’t.

A couple of things...

First, they didnt go top end with the Pixel 4. They charged top end prices for a mid-range spec'd phone. Mid range design, mid range, ram, mid range storage, mid range battery, mid range storage speed, mid range charging speed. I think the Pixel 4 XL is a great phone, but lets not fool ourselves like Google went all out and made a flagship device. They didnt. If they made a spec monster like the S20 line or even like recent OnePlus devices, paired with their software nobody would be complaining and they would have the best phone on the market. But they didnt.

Second, If you read through the thread, I was on board with the SOC downgrade if it included a bigger battery and cheaper price. But the more I think about it, the more I think they are cutting cost in the wrong areas. And I hate to compare them to Apple, but thats always going to happen. Apple just released a $300 phone that will embarrass the "flagship" Pixel 5 in CPU and GPU performance. They were able to do that but cutting corners in other areas (and because they had a huge stockpile of old parts to makeup the rest of the device, but I digress).

As I've thought about it more, and this wont happen obviously, but I would use the latest SOC with a bigger battery. Keep 90Hz and the display the same. Ditch Soli to improve bezel size and shave cost. Make the phone a great feeling plastic like the 3a, ditch wireless charging and instead add faster wired charging. Up RAM and storage to 8gb and 128GB. Drop the starting price by $200. That phone would be a killer.

Ive said it before here countless times if you read the thread, but Google need to either go all out flagship with the Pixel or go all out Nexus. I think they're attempting to move towards the latter but I'm worried they are cutting cost in the wrong places.
 
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