Google Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL

[dumastudetto]

Funny because I feel the same with you and your position. That is why I said we could just agree to disagree...but you keep droning on.....
Then as you said you agree with what I was saying anyway....

Go through my replies to you. I've been agreeing with a lot of what you said in each of my replies to you. I continued agreeing in my last comment. I wanted to emphasise that in my last reply, we don't disagree about a lot of the smaller details. If you feel I was droning on in agreeing with new points you introduced each time, fair enough. We'll park it here.

 

[jamezr]

Go through my replies to you. I've been agreeing with a lot of what you said in each of my replies to you. I continued agreeing in my last point. I wanted to emphasise that in my last reply. If you feel I was droning on in agreeing with new points you introduced each time, fair enough. We'll park it here.

If Apple was truly genuine about removing the power adapter to save the environment...because people already have enough existing Apple power adapters. They would have included a cable that would work with those existing power adapters. But they did not and the cable will not work with existing Apple power adapters.

 

[michael9891]

You're all missing the point with the no charger in the box. It was about being brave. ?

Which is true to a certain extent, given the inevitable backlash.

Personally I wouldn't be bothered if my Pixel didn't come with one. I wasn't bothered by no headphones in the box the last couple of years. A one off extra £20 for a 3rd party charger is nothing compared to the cost spent on devices year in, year out.

 

[hallux]

Holy cow, my phone was going CRAZY with Tapatalk notifications for this thread, and HALF are off-topic for the thread!! Side note - I HATE the way notifications for that app are handled on recent releases where EVERY SINGLE REPLY gets a card and sound, even if I haven't visited the thread since the last one. I just cleared them all, of the 25 notifications allowed for the app, 21 were for this thread!

On the Pixel 5, unless an answer to the screen gap issue is published and Google promises it's been resolved for devices shipping to the US, I think my next Fi phone (to replace my Pixel 2XL) will be a Galaxy S20+, or maybe I'll wait for the S21 series. I'm just concerned about what Fi features I might miss out on, or what Pixel features I'll miss (call screening might the big one there).

 

[dumastudetto]

You're all missing the point with the no charger in the box. It was about being brave. ?

Which is true to a certain extent, given the inevitable backlash.

Personally I wouldn't be bothered if my Pixel didn't come with one. I wasn't bothered by no headphones in the box the last couple of years. A one off extra £20 for a 3rd party charger is nothing compared to the cost spent on devices year in, year out.

I think what was really brave was claiming we all had these adapters at home, and then immediately afterwards announcing the changing out of the USB-A for the USB-C adapter they've never shipped with an iPhone before. ?

 

[dumastudetto]

Holy cow, my phone was going CRAZY with Tapatalk notifications for this thread, and HALF are off-topic for the thread!! Side note - I HATE the way notifications for that app are handled on recent releases where EVERY SINGLE REPLY gets a card and sound, even if I haven't visited the thread since the last one. I just cleared them all, of the 25 notifications allowed for the app, 21 were for this thread!

On the Pixel 5, unless an answer to the screen gap issue is published and Google promises it's been resolved for devices shipping to the US, I think my next Fi phone (to replace my Pixel 2XL) will be a Galaxy S20+, or maybe I'll wait for the S21 series. I'm just concerned about what Fi features I might miss out on, or what Pixel features I'll miss (call screening might the big one there).

I'm amazed they haven't jumped on that screen gap story and issued a statement of sorts. Apple would do this (issuing a statement to one of their best buddies in the "independent" media), even if it was just a you're looking at it wrong kind of denial. I'm fascinated if it's by design or not, because I've seen marketing photos that clearly show a gap between display and body on the Pixel 5. Apparently the Pixel 4a has that gap too.

I wonder if Google are asleep at the wheel because they haven't officially launched it in the US yet?

 

[bandrews]

I think what was really brave was claiming we all had these adapters at home, and then immediately afterwards announcing the changing out of the USB-A for the USB-C adapter they've never shipped with an iPhone before. ?

The 11 Pro did

 

[michael9891]

Is the screen gap issue widespread?

 

[dumastudetto]

The 11 Pro did

I have to apologise to Apple then for my rant.

It also backs up their point. I never removed the cable or adapter from my iPhone 11 Pro Max box to inspect it. I already had everything I needed.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Is the screen gap issue widespread?

It wouldnt be a Pixel if it didnt have a hardware flaw.

That said, it sounds like some people have a normal tolerance of screen gap and some have an obvious defect.

 

[Awesomesince86]

You're all missing the point with the no charger in the box. It was about being brave. ?

Which is true to a certain extent, given the inevitable backlash.

Personally I wouldn't be bothered if my Pixel didn't come with one. I wasn't bothered by no headphones in the box the last couple of years. A one off extra £20 for a 3rd party charger is nothing compared to the cost spent on devices year in, year out.

I would be fine with it too, if it provided a discount to the consumer. We are essentially paying more for less and Apple are reaping even more of an already insane profit.

 

[bandrews]

I would be fine with it too, if it provided a discount to the consumer. We are essentially paying more for less and Apple are reaping even more of an already insane profit.

This is the bit that gets me too. Not only the reduced cost in hardware but they made a point of saying how many more they can ship on a pallet which, sure is better for the environment but also better for their bottom line.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:
The UK vs US prices for the Pixel are also far more favourable than the iPhone.
Pixel 5 £599 vs $699
iPhone 12 Pro £999 vs $999

Still getting an iPhone mini.

 

[michael9891]

I would be fine with it too, if it provided a discount to the consumer. We are essentially paying more for less and Apple are reaping even more of an already insane profit.

Last word from me on iPhone in this thread, because there's little about Pixel lately.

To be fair to Apple, prices didn't go up (did some even see a reduction or more storage?), while specs were improved.

 

[chad.petree]

In my opinion the 2020 smartphone release has been lackluster, maybe due to the worldwide pandemic, that unfortunately will still be here well into next year.

Pixel 5 turned into a budget phone, and no XL version. But it's still a great smartphone, and one I'll probably get once reduced in price. But would have loved to see Google go all out and build a quality flagship Pixel.

iPhone 12 line, should have had ProMotion, and the rumored ruduced smaller notch, and iPad fingerprint scanner in the power button. These three features would've made me switch from Pixel to an iPhone.

OnePlus is turning into OneSung moving more to Samsung Galaxy type and away from stock Android.

Weird year for smartphones.

We're kinda on the same boat, I would have gotten the iphone 12 had it come with pro motion, but no 120 hz screen, only 64 gb of storage AND a price increase made me say no.

I was going to get a oneplus 8t but oneplus is losing its north lol, they are straying away from a stock like ui and they still haven't haven't updated the 7t, 7t pro, 7, 7 pro phones to android 11, that is not a good look.

 

[Tig Bitties]

We're kinda on the same boat, I would have gotten the iphone 12 had it come with pro motion, but no 120 hz screen, only 64 gb of storage AND I price increase made me say no.

I was going to get a oneplus 8t but oneplus is losing its north lol, they are strawing away from a stock like ui and they still haven't haven't updated the 8/ 8 pro phones to android 11, that is not a good look

Good points. The 8 Pro doesn't officially have Android 11 yet from OnePlus?

 

[Bkdodger]

Im always checking Oneplus but never pull the trigger ..

I just realize how small the P5 is now that I look at comparison with 4a ...I think going 4a 5G for the size might not be bad thing.. No wireless charging thou

 

[TPadden]

The 5 is making me think about updating my Pixel 2 ?. The 2 is running Android 11 without a problem and the battery is still all day strong ...

Tom

 

[Tig Bitties]

For some reason the OnePlus 8 Pro does excite me. I don't own one, but to me it's the power house Android phone of 2020;

- SD865
- 12GB RAM
- USF 3.1 fast storage
- 120hz refresh display
- A+ rated screen, very bright, with great vibrant colors
- Runs a near stock Android UI, but tweaked better, and very smooth

To me, a stock Android fan, the 8 Pro is the beast of 2020.

 

[Awesomesince86]

For some reason the OnePlus 8 Pro does excite me. I don't own one, but to me it's the power house Android phone of 2020;

- SD865
- 12GB RAM
- USF 3.1 fast storage
- 120hz refresh display
- A+ rated screen, very bright, with great vibrant colors
- Runs a near stock Android UI, but tweaked better, and very smooth

To me, a stock Android fan, the 8 Pro is the beast of 2020.

How important are cameras to you? Because the OP cameras are behind Apple, Google, and even Samsung.

 

[Tig Bitties]

How important are cameras to you? Because the OP cameras are behind Apple, Google, and even Samsung.

Portrait mode is big with me, that's my most used shot. I don't take many videos. Night site is nice too.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Portrait mode is big with me, that's my most used shot. I don't take many videos. Night site is nice too.

Well OP is generally considered to have pretty bad cameras. I think the OP8 Pro was supposed to be better, but still not great.

 

[chad.petree]

After watching so many iPhone 12 Pro videos on YouTube yesterday watch out I'm actually somewhat thinking of getting one.

WHAT ?

Me, Mr Nexus Pixel guy go back to an iPhone? I don't know I love my Pixel phones and stock Android but kind of want to change it up try something new and different.

What do you think?

My last recent three phones have been the Pixel 4 XL currently the 3XL before that and the 2XL

Poor you! All those phone are fugly as hell lol

I also wanted a change and I kind of got it, I was using a mi 9 before getting the pixel 5, kinda sad, that in normal usage the pixel 5 feels smoother than the mi 9, I don't care what most reviewers say, mi devices are not really optimized.

Still I'm pretty sure I'll be getting the iphone 12s pro next year after apple implements the 120 hz display on it.

Good points. The 8 Pro doesn't officially have Android 11 yet from OnePlus?

Actually I checked and the oneplus 8 and 8 pro got it 12 days ago, sorry for the misinformation, the 7t, 7t pro, 7 and 7 pro haven't gotten it though, that is unacceptable to me, those are last years flagships! To me in the android world pixel is the only way to go :/

 

[chad.petree]

I don't have big hands, but I definitely get the toy comment. It's not as bad now, but combined with how light it is, it's a little weird.

I think they should have gone with an even bigger battery to give it a little more weight, maybe a 4500 mah battery, the phone being so light feels a bit off putting, but I get that it is a race for manufacturers to have the slimmest and lightest, phone, I mean the iphone 12 would kinda have the same weight it

Last word from me on iPhone in this thread, because there's little about Pixel lately.

To be fair to Apple, prices didn't go up (did some even see a reduction or more storage?), while specs were improved.

Hmm sorry but prices DID go up, the sucessor of the iphone 11 is the iphone 12 and that phone is indeed more expensive than the 11 was. The iphone 12 mini is not comparable to the iphone 11

For some reason the OnePlus 8 Pro does excite me. I don't own one, but to me it's the power house Android phone of 2020;

- SD865
- 12GB RAM
- USF 3.1 fast storage
- 120hz refresh display
- A+ rated screen, very bright, with great vibrant colors
- Runs a near stock Android UI, but tweaked better, and very smooth

To me, a stock Android fan, the 8 Pro is the beast of 2020.

But don't forget that oxygen os doesn't look like stock android anymore, now it looks like a copy of samsung's one ui. Also the oneplus 8 pro has a curved screen with the stupid color shifting and reflections that a curved screen brings...

 

[MarkX]

For some reason the OnePlus 8 Pro does excite me. I don't own one, but to me it's the power house Android phone of 2020;

- SD865
- 12GB RAM
- USF 3.1 fast storage
- 120hz refresh display
- A+ rated screen, very bright, with great vibrant colors
- Runs a near stock Android UI, but tweaked better, and very smooth

To me, a stock Android fan, the 8 Pro is the beast of 2020.

Without a doubt its a beast of a phone only the camera letting it down. Its not that the camera is poor, its just not as good as the competition.

If portrait shots are a big thing for you then I can see why you wouldn't want to go anything other than Pixel - it really is hard to beat in that instance.

 

[Aneres11]

For some reason the OnePlus 8 Pro does excite me. I don't own one, but to me it's the power house Android phone of 2020;

- SD865
- 12GB RAM
- USF 3.1 fast storage
- 120hz refresh display
- A+ rated screen, very bright, with great vibrant colors
- Runs a near stock Android UI, but tweaked better, and very smooth

To me, a stock Android fan, the 8 Pro is the beast of 2020.

Knowing how much you hate Samsung, I would stay well clear of OP.
Their new Oxygen OS is a total rip off of One UI rather than the stock Android experience it used to be.