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Ludatyk

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And totally agree on Scamdung's I mean Samesuck's, sorry Samsung's Lagwizz UI, I know it's called One UI, and I haven't owned a Galaxy phone since the Note 9, but it was always laggy with hicups and microstutters, but the word is Samsung has finally made it smooth with One UI 5.1 But read Reddit and like 25% still say there's minor lag here and there and it's still not as smooth as a Pixel or OnePlus phone. Is that true?
Not trying to single you out, but you have reiterated this idea of how laggy OneUI is, and a few people have claimed they haven't experienced lagginess (well, from latest OneUI devices).

My experience with the Fold 4 has been smooth... no lag. And I'd like to add... no phone is perfect, there will always be some hurdles they will need to overcome. We all have our preferences... I personally wouldn't criticize the iPhone even though I've moved away from it, I still think it provides a great experience for those who prefer it.
 
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Supersonicc

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Roland Quandt via X has confirmed the pre-order bundle offers.

I'd also like to know which exact markets Google is targeting. Assuming US and UK but hopefully Europe, specifically Italy where I am! I have the option of the UK too.

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edubfromktown

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I do agree on Nothing OS 2.0, it's like the awesome CyanogenMod back in the day, which was vanilla Android but with tweaks and way more customizable, then it became Lineage OS, and then Oxygen OS, and now it sucks and is corporate bullcrap Oppo OS.

I love stock Android and the Pixel line, but Pixel UI is way too basic, and way too minimal, I wish it was more like CyanogenMod.

And totally agree on Scamdung's I mean Samesuck's, sorry Samsung's Lagwizz UI, I know it's called One UI, and I haven't owned a Galaxy phone since the Note 9, but it was always laggy with hicups and microstutters, but the word is Samsung has finally made it smooth with One UI 5.1 But read Reddit and like 25% still say there's minor lag here and there and it's still not as smooth as a Pixel or OnePlus phone. Is that true?

crApple and the iClone suck, mostly because of the terrible iOS, which is the worst. Will iOS ever be good? it's slowly getting there, iOS 13 and 14 saw some nice improvements, but to me, it won't be as good as Android until Tim Cook is gone and a new person in charge, but maybe iOS 20 will be good.

I think next years Nothing Phone 3 will be near flagship level, and probably the best enthusiast Android phone of 2024.

iSheep here, keep your pants on, I'm talking half jokingly here, not being totally serious, so chill on this reply LOL

I started this iteration of Andoid adventure with Pixel 4a and as my "switch" platform away from iPhone (8 Plus). After a bit of a rocky start with RCS, importing sound files and a few other awkwardly painful head scratchers I was generally impressed. The camera in that little sucker did exceptionally well (even in low light) and I'd say if photos are #1 for your mobile device, Pixel is the outright winner.

I've since gone to OnePlus... first the OP 8 which I moved away from with that curved screen for 8T 256/12. I've been using OxygenOS since A10 and have applied all updates soon after they became available. Never really had any problems with stability, performance, etc. other than slow camera focus and processing time early on. Only thing that has me moving onto another device is the USB-C port is getting tempramental (after lint cleaning multiple times).

Got an S23+ setup a week or so ago and without question, it is snappier than my 8T. Haven't noticed any hiccups/lagginess, stability issues, etc. so far.

Note: I did adb shell pm uninstall --user more than 70 items of clutter, some of which duplicated other apps and others I will never use.

The S23+ has the custom gen 2 Qualcomm processor, same as the Ultra. I like the smaller form factor.

Display is not as crazy nice as Ultra though not bad at all and I like what they've done with fonts compared to Pixel 6/7 "base" models.

Nothing 2 looks cool but just too far behind modern hardware specs in my opinion.

Developers are getting whacked and also jumping ship from Apple. Some of the good ones are going to Samsung from what a few dev's and managers have said recently. Google development is like Adobe (not so good at times and screw the pooch with gusto here and there as well lol). I'd bet on Samsung dev shaking things up more than Google.

Pixel quality remains hit or miss and support ranges from awesome to incredibly horrid. On the hardware side: buttons stop working or fall out, display issues, dodgy radios, slowwww charging, heat management challenges, etc.

The 8's will get a new mystical 3rd gen processor that is still behind Qualcomm performance.

S23+ at $650 total including tax vs P8P at $1k or more for a better camera and dice rolls elsewhere does not have me jumping for joy and ready to plunk down pre-order.
 

Dave245

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Sep 15, 2013
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The Pixel is so tempting, this is my biggest worry though. Quality Control. Seems like there's always some kind of issue...though I will admit, the Pixel Fold doesn't seem to have any major issues that I've heard of. The second worry is that every time in the past that I've given the Pixel a try, the shine wore off really fast and I got bored quickly. Don't know why but that always seems to happen.

Are you not sticking with your S23 Ultra? The Pixel is very tempting for me but mainly because of the camera.

The iPhone 15 Pro Max seems to be having heat issues, i ended up cancelling my pre-order. I just want a great phone with great battery life and a great camera, i will keep my 14 Pro Max alongside whatever i decide to go with in the future.
 
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mjschabow

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Are you not sticking with your S23 Ultra? The Pixel is very tempting for me but mainly because of the camera.

The iPhone 15 Pro Max seems to be having heat issues, i ended up cancelling my pre-order. I just want a great phone with great battery life and a great camera, i will keep my 14 Pro Max alongside whatever i decide to go with in the future.
Haha well I'm between a few possibilities right now. I'm most likely going to go with the iPhone 15 Pro Max and fully transition back to Apple. But I do really love my S23 Ultra other than the issues with texts (which is actually a huge issue). I have considered the Fold 5 and Pixel 8 pro as well, but in seeing the Fold 5 in person, I actually felt like it was a bit cheap feeling. It was odd, but that's just the vibe I got. Pixels are great but I'm nervous about the hardware and getting sick of it. iPhone is the safe choice and I've noticed that with Android, I do spend more time on my device than I should just tweaking stuff.
 
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Dave245

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Haha well I'm between a few possibilities right now. I'm most likely going to go with the iPhone 15 Pro Max and fully transition back to Apple. But I do really love my S23 Ultra other than the issues with texts (which is actually a huge issue). I have considered the Fold 5 and Pixel 8 pro as well, but in seeing the Fold 5 in person, I actually felt like it was a bit cheap feeling. It was odd, but that's just the vibe I got. Pixels are great but I'm nervous about the hardware and getting sick of it. iPhone is the safe choice and I've noticed that with Android, I do spend more time on my device than I should just tweaking stuff.

I can understand that, it’s not easy to leave the Apple Ecosystem fully. iPhone is the safe choice that’s for sure, IOS is far more simple and it just works, Andriod can be tweaked and customised in a lot of ways.

I noticed myself that Samsung has layer and layer of things to customise and settings to change, as well as a hundred or more different features.
I’m not a fan of foldable‘s due to durability issues and I don’t think they solve a problem (there usually bigger and bulkier than a standard phone), plus the Samsung Fold has a noticeable crease that i just can’t un-see.

The Pixel 8 seems like it‘s going to be a great phone and I’m very tempted.
 

Tig Bitties

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I started this iteration of Andoid adventure with Pixel 4a and as my "switch" platform away from iPhone (8 Plus). After a bit of a rocky start with RCS, importing sound files and a few other awkwardly painful head scratchers I was generally impressed. The camera in that little sucker did exceptionally well (even in low light) and I'd say if photos are #1 for your mobile device, Pixel is the outright winner.

I've since gone to OnePlus... first the OP 8 which I moved away from with that curved screen for 8T 256/12. I've been using OxygenOS since A10 and have applied all updates soon after they became available. Never really had any problems with stability, performance, etc. other than slow camera focus and processing time early on. Only thing that has me moving onto another device is the USB-C port is getting tempramental (after lint cleaning multiple times).

Got an S23+ setup a week or so ago and without question, it is snappier than my 8T. Haven't noticed any hiccups/lagginess, stability issues, etc. so far.

Note: I did adb shell pm uninstall --user more than 70 items of clutter, some of which duplicated other apps and others I will never use.

The S23+ has the custom gen 2 Qualcomm processor, same as the Ultra. I like the smaller form factor.

Display is not as crazy nice as Ultra though not bad at all and I like what they've done with fonts compared to Pixel 6/7 "base" models.

Nothing 2 looks cool but just too far behind modern hardware specs in my opinion.

Developers are getting whacked and also jumping ship from Apple. Some of the good ones are going to Samsung from what a few dev's and managers have said recently. Google development is like Adobe (not so good at times and screw the pooch with gusto here and there as well lol). I'd bet on Samsung dev shaking things up more than Google.

Pixel quality remains hit or miss and support ranges from awesome to incredibly horrid. On the hardware side: buttons stop working or fall out, display issues, dodgy radios, slowwww charging, heat management challenges, etc.

The 8's will get a new mystical 3rd gen processor that is still behind Qualcomm performance.

S23+ at $650 total including tax vs P8P at $1k or more for a better camera and dice rolls elsewhere does not have me jumping for joy and ready to plunk down pre-order.


Great reply, thank you.
 
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Supersonicc

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I might get a S23 Ultra just as an experiment, and see for myself how One UI 6 is.
Yeah I'd say its worth seeing for yourself, the S23 Ultra is a great option, especially with hardware / cameras. With software, One UI 6 is going to take the Galaxy operating system that bit further away from the old Samsung Experience/TouchWiz days which can only be a good thing. Samsung are going to ditch the default font to bring in more inline with Google's font. Bloat apps can be removed. Finally they are getting rid of those rubbish emojis that were used before One UI came about. Samsung is never going to be Nothing 2.0 or Pixel software but it's not bad Android software either. I just found the S23 Ultra too large and unwieldy for comfort due to size & sharper edges vs. other options.
 

Aneres11

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I’m ready for the Pixel 8 preorder and am PRAYING it’s smoother than the recent iPhone saga 😜.

I’ll be trading my iPhone 14 in which I’m really sad about as I love this iPhone. It’s the best colour ever (yellow) so I will be sad to see it go.
I just checked and if I traded it in for a 7 Pro now Google would give £510.

Add that to my sexy Google credit and I’m set for a pretty sweet deal for an 8 Pro and Watch 2. 😁

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Fried_Gold

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I’m ready for the Pixel 8 preorder and am PRAYING it’s smoother than the recent iPhone saga 😜.

I’ll be trading my iPhone 14 in which I’m really sad about as I love this iPhone. It’s the best colour ever (yellow) so I will be sad to see it go.
I just checked and if I traded it in for a 7 Pro now Google would give £510.

Add that to my sexy Google credit and I’m set for a pretty sweet deal for an 8 Pro and Watch 2. 😁

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What's the Google trade in experience like? May trade in my Fold4 towards and 8 Pro if it's good.

EDIT: Fold4 isn't an option, only Fold3 and olders. 😒
 
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Dave245

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I’m ready for the Pixel 8 preorder and am PRAYING it’s smoother than the recent iPhone saga 😜.

I’ll be trading my iPhone 14 in which I’m really sad about as I love this iPhone. It’s the best colour ever (yellow) so I will be sad to see it go.
I just checked and if I traded it in for a 7 Pro now Google would give £510.

Add that to my sexy Google credit and I’m set for a pretty sweet deal for an 8 Pro and Watch 2. 😁

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Do you know if Google honour the military discount as soon as pre-orders start? I have a defence discount from my dad. I know Samsung do, but Apple don’t, they make you wait months.

If they do honour it I will have 15% off :) that coupled with the Pixel Watch, may be too good to resist.
 

Aneres11

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What's the Google trade in experience like? May trade in my Fold4 towards and 8 Pro if it's good.

EDIT: Fold4 isn't an option, only Fold3 and olders. 😒
It’s just ok. I traded in my 6 Pro for my 7 Pro last year.
You have to pay the price of the trade in with your initial order, and then when you send it off and it’s received / inspected, if all good Google then just refund your payment method.

I know last year they were bombarded. I think a lot of people bought into the 7 series last year and did trade ins as there was quite a delay. I had to chase a few times as my tracking showed they’d received my device like two weeks back but I still hadn’t had the credit back.

But their trade in prices are good I think.
 

Aneres11

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Do you know if Google honour the military discount as soon as pre-orders start? I have a defence discount from my dad. I know Samsung do, but Apple don’t, they make you wait months.

If they do honour it I will have 15% off :) that coupled with the Pixel Watch, may be too good to resist.
Hmm I have no idea. I’d google it and see if it applies to current devices they’re selling today?
 

Bkdodger

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I recently did a trade-in with Google when I ordered the pixel fold everything went really smooth so hopefully you guys have the same experience.. they charge me on the whole order which I put on my Google credit card and the trade-in went through smoothly and got the credit back on the trade-in..
 

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Supersonicc

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I am ready for pre-order, decided to buy from the UK Google store to get the 10% store credit from Google One membership.

All the colours look great, if the Porcelain is the same as the Pixel Fold, the 8 Pro will look very classy. My favourite is Sky Blue for something different and fun.

Pixel pre-order prices are unbeatable with the bundle deals, especially against the high iPhone 15 Pro Max prices.
 

unclejamaal

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Roland Quandt via X has confirmed the pre-order bundle offers.

I'd also like to know which exact markets Google is targeting. Assuming US and UK but hopefully Europe, specifically Italy where I am! I have the option of the UK too.

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This sounds interesting especially the watch bundle

I’m assuming the price in the UK will be at least £900 or higher
 

unclejamaal

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I am ready for pre-order, decided to buy from the UK Google store to get the 10% store credit from Google One membership.

All the colours look great, if the Porcelain is the same as the Pixel Fold, the 8 Pro will look very classy. My favourite is Sky Blue for something different and fun.

Pixel pre-order prices are unbeatable with the bundle deals, especially against the high iPhone 15 Pro Max prices.


As a rough price guide, how much was the bundle on launch last year in the UK?

And how much is Google One and what does it get you?

Tempted by this instead of getting the Honor Magic 5 Pro which I thought was a really good phone - possibly the best I’ve tried out of all the androids this year, but I’m tempted to wait and pay a bit more for the P8Pro on launch if it gets a good bundle and the price is appealing
 

BMox81

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As a rough price guide, how much was the bundle on launch last year in the UK?

And how much is Google One and what does it get you?

Tempted by this instead of getting the Honor Magic 5 Pro which I thought was a really good phone - possibly the best I’ve tried out of all the androids this year, but I’m tempted to wait and pay a bit more for the P8Pro on launch if it gets a good bundle and the price is appealing
Bundle for the 7 Pro plus free watch was £849 on the Google Store.

Google One is their version of iCloud plus other benefits. This is the 2TB option as an example:

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floral

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But then they made it smaller....
"Dimensions of the Pixel 8 Pro measure 162.6×76.5×8.7mm. That’s slightly smaller than the 162.9×76.6×8.9mm of the Pixel 7 Pro. A display size of around 6.52 inches is mentioned."
Why do you need a big phone?
 
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