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got your C2D MBP? please tell us....
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Fair enough, but obviously a lot of people don't share that opinion. That's my problem with your comparison, that it is overly exaggerated. Say that you don't like it, fine. But that's something else.
And also, if it is true that the new MBP's have an anti-glare coating on the glossy screens, then none of us here can really say for sure what it looks like or how bad it is.
Is your problem really that you don't like the color vibrancy, etc. of the glossy screens, or that you just don't think the reflective surface is a fair trade off?
-Zadillo
My thoughts on the glossy are mostly aesthetic. I personally just think the colors look nicer, which is a slight plus for movies and games. I honestly haven't noticed that much of a glare problem. My bottom line on why I chose glossy and not matte came down to the fact that you can buy a matte screen cover for situations where the glossy isn't perfect, but you can't make a matte screen glossy, YMMV.
haha.... well, its an analogy, so its not really meant to be accurate
my honest opinion is that the glossy screen's reflective tendencies are very annoying and extrememly distracting. i say this from having used a freind's glossy MBP for a few days last spring, as well as a few hours inside an apple store. i think the ONE advantage of glossy is that outside they are more readable than the matte screens; but there is still a ton of reflections. the reflections make me very aware of the surface of the screen, like i am looking at the screen thru a window, whereas the matte does not do this.
having said that if ALL i did was game + watch DVD's, i would consider the glossy.
but even ignoring the reflections, as a print designer, the glossy is not even an option due to the way it displays colors in an unnatural way. someone on some thread in here said that "the world is not glossy, why should your display be" and i agree.
When I went and looked at the CD MBPs in an Apple Store last week, I was astonished to find that there really was very little difference between them in terms of colour reproduction. I even mistook a matte screen for a glossy before I had a chance to see them both, the screen is that good. If it had been the other way around there's no way I could have made the same mistake as the glare / reflections are all too obvious.
I'm not denying that the glossy looks a tad more attractive but when I weighed up the positive and negative attributes of each, the matte was a clear winner.
When I'm sitting in one of the lecture theatres at Uni, I can always clearly see the screen of the guy with an iBook G4 even if I'm looking down at him from the back of the room. If I sit in a row behind people with glossy macbook / other brands of laptop all I see is my / some elses reflection staring back at me which must be distracting when you're using them.
Needless to say, I ordered a matte C2D MBP. I would be interested to hear though if there is any truth that the C2D glossy screens have an anti-glare coating of sorts, as someone is reporting.
I'm not denying that the glossy looks a tad more attractive but when I weighed up the positive and negative attributes of each, the matte was a clear winner.
When I'm sitting in one of the lecture theatres at Uni, I can always clearly see the screen of the guy with an iBook G4 even if I'm looking down at him from the back of the room. If I sit in a row behind people with glossy macbook / other brands of laptop all I see is my / some elses reflection staring back at me which must be distracting when you're using them.
Needless to say, I ordered a matte C2D MBP. I would be interested to hear though if there is any truth that the C2D glossy screens have an anti-glare coating of sorts, as someone is reporting.
Maybe, there's a strong chance it could have a mobile R600 in it if it launches in the spring.
The new MBP is an adequate gamers machine especially considering its size. While its no alienware or Dell XPS M1710, it gets about half the 3dmark05 score my Dell laptop does which is pretty admirable considering how thin it is. For someone who doesn't want to lug around a 8 lb machine + heavy power adapter to a cafe or univ. library to research and/or get in a game or two, the MBP is a perfect gaming machine.
It's coming
Got a shipping update, it's being shipped today Oct 28th, Estimated Delievery Nov 1st. MBPro 15inch, 2.33, 2 gig, 160GB, matte. Just tracked it and it's coming from China to here (in California.)
Placed order Tuesday around midnight and it had an orginal estimate of Shipped by: Nov 1st, Delivered by: Nov 6th. Glad it's coming early; hope you all get yours soon.
Got a shipping update, it's being shipped today Oct 28th, Estimated Delievery Nov 1st. MBPro 15inch, 2.33, 2 gig, 160GB, matte. Just tracked it and it's coming from China to here (in California.)
Placed order Tuesday around midnight and it had an orginal estimate of Shipped by: Nov 1st, Delivered by: Nov 6th. Glad it's coming early; hope you all get yours soon.
You guys have tracking numbers, I have apple store phone numbers.
Fedex shows macs coming in to the usa. Apple stores show that something, possibly mbps are coming.
What you don't have is a couple double shots of espresso using your home roasted beans pulled from an ECM giotto.
(coffee is not to be used as a substitute for a mac!)
Fedex shows macs coming in to the usa. Apple stores show that something, possibly mbps are coming.
What you don't have is a couple double shots of espresso using your home roasted beans pulled from an ECM giotto.
(coffee is not to be used as a substitute for a mac!)
I noticed on this youtube video that the Macbook Pro screens colour seems "off" compared to the glossy Macbook. When you see the two screens from the side the whites on the MBP screen look yellow compared to the MB screen near perfect white white.
If the new matte MBP screen is that bad with white reproduction (like my iBook, could never get a perfect white despite multiple calibrations), I'm getting glossy.
What's up with that?
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TY3LOi7fLM
If the new matte MBP screen is that bad with white reproduction (like my iBook, could never get a perfect white despite multiple calibrations), I'm getting glossy.
What's up with that?
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TY3LOi7fLM
Actually, the way I look at it matte is like makeup. It covers imperfections and gives an overall 'sameness' to images. Not like real life at all. High quality ad media reproduces like glossy not matte. I had no trouble with glare on my glossy MBP, while there can be reflections, when actually working on a project they fade into the backround, they are not focal so your mind tunes them out. Matte has glare too, much like a softbox reflection. Life may not actually be glossy, but it sure ain't matte either!
System DVDs That Come With Macs Work On Any Mac
You are mistaken. They work on any Mac. They are not hardware specific.
Matte Vs. Glossy
Well, I just called and the Millenia Orlando store has the 2.33GHz in Matte but not Glossy. I maybe changing my mind to matte since I could have it today vs. Monday at best...I think I may go to the store and see if the difference is worth waiting for.
Well, I just called and the Millenia Orlando store has the 2.33GHz in Matte but not Glossy. I maybe changing my mind to matte since I could have it today vs. Monday at best...I think I may go to the store and see if the difference is worth waiting for.
Thanks for the correction. Since I had never seen mbox prior to OS/X I did not know this. In looking for converters it appeared that this is more widely used. Your description makes it clear that it is actually based on a standard rather than just being a common unix thing.
glossy filters possible...
not sure this is entirely true. i was in the apple store in soho and some guy was sitting in on one of the workshops there. he had an ibook g3 open during the discussion and it had a glossy screen. he obviously applied some kind of filter to his ibook but i am not sure what it was. i was in hurry and didn't really have time to ask, although now i wish i did because that kind of information is useful to people on here.
that said, i believe it works both ways.
OH... and anyone who is interested in purchasing my powerbook, i have it on ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Powerbook...5QQihZ005QQcategoryZ14909QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
not sure this is entirely true. i was in the apple store in soho and some guy was sitting in on one of the workshops there. he had an ibook g3 open during the discussion and it had a glossy screen. he obviously applied some kind of filter to his ibook but i am not sure what it was. i was in hurry and didn't really have time to ask, although now i wish i did because that kind of information is useful to people on here.
that said, i believe it works both ways.
OH... and anyone who is interested in purchasing my powerbook, i have it on ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Powerbook...5QQihZ005QQcategoryZ14909QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Just as an update for tarjan and anyone else curious; I called the Tysons Corner, VA Apple Store, and they have the 15" models in both 2.16 and 2.33, but matte only, no glossy. They said they expect the glossy screens next week.
-Zadillo
-Zadillo
What time zone are you in? I ordered the same thing you did at 8:00pm Tuesday PST and it has not shipped yet. I did however get it through the ADC store, which may be why I have a delay. Does anyone know it ADC members normally have to wait longer to get their order approved or something?
Its official. No store in the DC metro are has received any 2.33 glossy sytems in as of today. This includes all of today's possible shipments.
So do I break down and get a 2.16 glossy? Supposedly those are available at PC or in MD or get a matte 2.33 (only one in the area that I have found)?
Zadillo: whatcha think?
So do I break down and get a 2.16 glossy? Supposedly those are available at PC or in MD or get a matte 2.33 (only one in the area that I have found)?
Zadillo: whatcha think?
I think its mostly accentuated by the camera and low quality. Seriously, for true color reproduction, no pro print designer or photographer works with glossy. From what I have seen in store, the MBP seems to reproduce colors and whites fairly well. However, it does not have near as good black level due to the increased contrast from glossy screens.
+1 Matte does have glare, it is just diffused. Certainly not as annoying as glossy glare. After a year of use on my glossy screen I've never really considered glare a problem at all. I don't even notice it. It may be more of a problem if someone is looking at your screen from an angle, but thats not my biggest concern.
What are all the big Apple Cinema displays, Dells, etc. that have been discussed? Are they all matte?
hm i ordered mine on thursday...it says est ship time is oct 31, but my local apple store has one...i tried canceling over the phone but they said my macbook pro was being prepped to ship! i cant wait..hopefully ship 30th, and come by 2nd. (2nd day shipping). i'm crossing my fingers. the mac office i ordered came the next day. (again 2nd day shipping)...but that was from cali.
2.33 C2D MBP w/ Matte.
haha i called the apple store and asked him what models he had. he responded "we have the 15" in regular and ultimate and only matte." ultimate? haha. first thing that came to mind was vista Ultimate edition.
i concur with the matte people. I sit in my lecture halls looking at everybody's screen. Glossy is bad for lecture hall style lighting. from behind, i see the users face, part of his hands, the ceiling light behind him, and barely anything (given that it is an HP laptop). matte however, i see no glare, and can easily see that he/she is checking his or her facebook. Matte FTW.
Ram upgrade
I'm buying the low Macbook pro. I'm going to go 2 GB and I know apple charges a lot more. I'm in the UK and was wondering where I could get an extra 1GB stick that will work (preferrably cheap)? Or should I just pay the extra from apple? Any ideas?
Thanks
I'm buying the low Macbook pro. I'm going to go 2 GB and I know apple charges a lot more. I'm in the UK and was wondering where I could get an extra 1GB stick that will work (preferrably cheap)? Or should I just pay the extra from apple? Any ideas?
Thanks
A bit OT but I never understood the purpose of taking a laptop to lecture, especially if it's a science class. Unless you're using a tablet, there's no way you could compensate for all the diagrams and re-writes a teacher does on the board with a regular laptop. I've seen a few people with laptops when I was taking classes like Microbio and it was pretty silly.
I can't wait to open mine!!
I took mine out of the box this morning, and there is already a gap on the left side.