got your C2D MBP? please tell us....

[PygmySurfer]

okay~ Sorry for all the stooopid questions, such a newbie here with this amc stuff. Thanks y'all!

I forget if anyone suggested it before, but Apple makes a package called iWork, it comes with Pages (a Word Processor) and Keynote (Presentation program). A demo version should have come pre-installed on your Mac. The full version is $79, I believe. You could at least try it out, and see if you like it.

I'd try to hold off on purchasing it, I assume a new version of iWork will be released in January (along with a new version of iLife). Rumors suggest the new iWork suite will also include a spreadsheet application.

 

[bob_hearn]

I forget if anyone suggested it before, but Apple makes a package called iWork, it comes with Pages (a Word Processor) and Keynote (Presentation program). A demo version should have come pre-installed on your Mac. The full version is $79, I believe. You could at least try it out, and see if you like it..

FYI -- I don't think this is secret information -- the guy most responsible for the word processing component of ClarisWorks / AppleWorks (also Gobe Productive) is the main guy on Pages.

Re Keynote, I use it for all my presentations. I always get comments on how much nicer my slides look than PowerPoint.

 

[robotx21]

FYI -- I don't think this is secret information -- the guy most responsible for the word processing component of ClarisWorks / AppleWorks (also Gobe Productive) is the main guy on Pages.

Re Keynote, I use it for all my presentations. I always get comments on how much nicer my slides look than PowerPoint.

Keynote is a GODSEND! The first time a few years ago I used it in a presentation for college, it blew everyone away! #1, it's easy to use, easier than powerpoint! #2, it looks SOO much better! I always get questions like "How did you do that in powerpoint; that is awesome!" and I always say "Well...first off it's not powerpoint...secondly you need to get rid of that machine and get a mac"

 

[Zadillo]

Wow, this thread and bcavanau's MBP review page made Slashdot:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/28/197237

 

[miniguu]

Newbie question...I have not owned a MBP, so I'm curious as to what the round circle to the left of latch is. IR?

 

[robotx21]

Wow, this thread and bcavanau's MBP review page made Slashdot:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/28/197237

LMAO!!! I just went to that guys site again, now he has google ads all around...looks like someone wants to pay off his macbook pro early ;-) kudos to you my friend!!! (It's incredible the power of information is...absolutely incredible)

 

[robotx21]

Newbie question...I have not owned a MBP, so I'm curious as to what the round circle to the left of latch is. IR?

yes...that is the IR sensor for the front row remote.

 

[miniguu]

Doh..I should have thought of that. Thanks.

Sigh..I'm still waiting for mine to ship.
Ordered 10/26 11:40, 15" 2.16 stock w/glossy screen. Still says waiting to ship, and can be cancelled.

 

[Reach]

Thank you. This means the 15" does not extend back as far as the 17" does. Another reason to love the 17" model.

But we also have a descrepancy between the report that it is only 120º vs. 130º. Did you mean 30º past vertical 90 - total 120º? or 40º past vertical 90º - almost half way to flat - total 130º?

135º is pretty obvious. It almost lookis flat even though there's still another 45º beyond to get to flat.

Remember he compared it to a CD MBP and said it was identical, then measured for 130°. That would mean the old ones didn't have 120° either (Maybe an update we didn't catch), and could be the source of confusion, as everyone kept saying the CD ones are 120°.

 

[Am3822]

openoffice vs. neo office

I've read somewhere (don't remember where exactly) that neo-office is java based. Doesn't it mean that the osx port of openoffice would require less resources?

 

[dhechler]

got the 17"

hey all, just saw this thread on slashdot and wanted to let everyone know that i just picked up the first 17" out of a store in St. Louis today


* 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
* 200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 4200 rpm
* SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
* MacBook Pro 17-inch Widescreen Display
* Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
* Apple MagSafe Airline Power Adapter
* Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
* Accessory Kit

 

[countach]

I've read somewhere (don't remember where exactly) that neo-office is java based. Doesn't it mean that the osx port of openoffice would require less resources?

I don't think it's java based, although it does have some java integration.

 

[crazysnake]

hey all, just saw this thread on slashdot and wanted to let everyone know that i just picked up the first 17" out of a store in St. Louis today


* 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
* 200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 4200 rpm
* SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
* MacBook Pro 17-inch Widescreen Display
* Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
* Apple MagSafe Airline Power Adapter
* Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
* Accessory Kit

Could you provide us some informations about the display and the core/ram clock of the GFX?

 

[countach]

When I get my 8-core Mac Pro next month, I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip.

I have a copy of XP and a Parallels License.

If you had crossover, you wouldn't need the 8 core Mac

It avoids all the bloat of running two OSes.

 

[countach]

Then there is no reason to get CrossOver. Everything will work better on Parallels. If you are worried about the RAM commitment in Parallels on a MacPro then it probably won't run well with CrossOver.

?????

Parallels means running two complete OSes complete with all the services, memory, different file system and so on and on. MASSIVE overhead.

Crossover has NO overhead. It's just like running a native app.

 

[countach]

Is this really even an issue anymore now that desktop macs ship with a Mighty Mouse and the notebooks have the two-fingers-and-click built in?

Two fingers and click is hardly the same as right button. And if you're a firefox user, you'll be addicted to 3rd mouse button too. We need a macbook with 3 buttons

 

[Eidorian]

?????

Parallels means running two complete OSes complete with all the services, memory, different file system and so on and on. MASSIVE overhead.

Crossover has NO overhead. It's just like running a native app.

Uh Parallels has very LITTLE overhead. It's not a full boot of the OS but it's better then partitioning and rebooting all the time to do ONE thing.

 

[countach]

Uh Parallels has very LITTLE overhead. It's not a full boot of the OS but it's better then partitioning and rebooting all the time to do ONE thing.

Of course it's a full boot of the OS.

 

[Majost]

hey all, just saw this thread on slashdot and wanted to let everyone know that i just picked up the first 17" out of a store in St. Louis today


* 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 3GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 1x2GB, 1x1GB
* 200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 4200 rpm
* SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
* MacBook Pro 17-inch Widescreen Display
* Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
* Apple MagSafe Airline Power Adapter
* Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
* Accessory Kit

Woah... you picked that up at a store? I thought the 200GB was a BTO-only option, as was the 3GB of RAM. Of course, it wouldn't be hard for them to throw in an extra chip at an Apple Store, but to swap a hard drive is serious effort. I'd love to know how you managed to get a 200GB drive as a stock model, and what make/model that drive is. Thanks!

 

[Eidorian]

Of course it's a full boot of the OS.

It's inside of a virtual machine though and not a hardware reboot.

 

[SLAPSHOTW]

Uh Parallels has very LITTLE overhead. It's not a full boot of the OS but it's better then partitioning and rebooting all the time to do ONE thing.

Yes it is a full boot, and so has all of Windows PLUS the Windows programs that are running as overhead, in addition to OS X.

 

[Eidorian]

Yes it is a full boot, and so has all of Windows PLUS the Windows programs that are running as overhead, in addition to OS X.

Have you even used Parallels? There is very LITTLE overhead from OS X unless your running many other programs inside of it. When running both operating systems at once your VM sees a 30% performance hit. (I've heard of 20% running using a Linux host.) I run XP just fine with 128-512 MB of RAM.

http://www.macworld.com/2006/06/reviews/parallels/index.php

 

[mds]

I agree, there should be two buttons. The Apple one button is a religion taken one step too far.

Word...the one thing that still bugs me as a "switcher".

 

[mightymike107]

Does it open to 135º Mike? There seems to be a disagreement. So all the way back is it half way between vertical and horizontal (135º) or more toward vertical (120º)?

checked for sure with graph paper and trig, 135 degrees.

OK, how doed in feel on your lap after some normal usage?

Is the keyboard hot when you max out your CPU?

Oh, and what's the lid like when closing? does it fit better or is it too loose? any warping?

the heat is fine on my lap under a normal load, on a full load it gets warm. I did notice that around the keyboard it gets a little hot, especially right above it on the hinge. The lid closes nicely, i don't have anything to compare it to, but no complaints. there doesn't seem to be any warping.

cheers,
mike

 

[countach]

It's inside of a virtual machine though and not a hardware reboot.

Irrelevant when considering the overhead.

Everything is duplicated. which is extremely inefficient. Sure, if you let it swap out to disk when idle, it won't have overhead. But if you're actually USING it, it's a pretty inefficient way to go. Sure, it's running at native speed, but windows and OSX are competing for the same resources, the same memory, and they have separate disk caches. Parallels is it's own environment, but a crossover app runs in its own window like a native app. All I'm saying is, crossover makes windows apps to be native programs. If it works for you, it's a technically better solution.