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I am using a Samsung Tab S2, from 2016. Still going strong, never had any issues. Its been dropped, sprayed water on, never skipped a beat. Samsung is BOSS
I did always wish Android manufacturers put some more effort into their tablets. They never had enough raw horsepower for me, but I saw a lot of potential in them. Maybe the new Pixel one and the emphasis on foldables will change that. Still, especially now that I have Logic on the iPad, it's gonna take a lot of dev time to get that ecosystem in a place worth switching to.
 
I did always wish Android manufacturers put some more effort into their tablets. They never had enough raw horsepower for me, but I saw a lot of potential in them. Maybe the new Pixel one and the emphasis on foldables will change that. Still, especially now that I have Logic on the iPad, it's gonna take a lot of dev time to get that ecosystem in a place worth switching to.
You do you.
 
It would be neat. I thought it was pretty cool when I had a Note 10.
I'm a huge Parsec user. Just the fact that it's supported by Android and Dex could very well mean that 80% of the time I could leave all my computers at home and just jack into my Mac or PC from a Dex-connected phone and monitor. The temptation has been very real.
 
I'm a huge Parsec user. Just the fact that it's supported by Android and Dex could very well mean that 80% of the time I could leave all my computers at home and just jack into my Mac or PC from a Dex-connected phone and monitor. The temptation has been very real.
Just keep in mind it's a Samsung only thing, which is fortunate, because Samsung makes amazing phones.
 
Just keep in mind it's a Samsung only thing, which is fortunate, because Samsung makes amazing phones.
I actually only ever had bad luck with Samsung back in my Android days. I loved my LGs, too bad they're done for. Still, I'll be on team iPhone as long as I'm using my Mac and iPad, and Windows seems to be a very long way off from competing on that front.
 
I actually only ever had bad luck with Samsung back in my Android days. I loved my LGs, too bad they're done for. Still, I'll be on team iPhone as long as I'm using my Mac and iPad, and Windows seems to be a very long way off from competing on that front.
Samsung phones used to be absolutely terrible, but they're amazing now, I promise. Once they pulled their heads from their nether regions they've been making great strides in tech. I'm probably never leaving the iPhone, though. I've gone back and forth with the latest iPhone and Samsung models (and at one point a Pixel), but I keep ending up back on the iPhone again.
 
Samsung phones used to be absolutely terrible, but they're amazing now, I promise. Once they pulled their heads from their nether regions they've been making great strides in tech. I'm probably never leaving the iPhone, though. I've gone back and forth with the latest iPhone and Samsung models (and at one point a Pixel), but I keep ending up back on the iPhone again.
Because everything feels smoother than on Android, and of course the marketing is soo effective
 
So you don't trust Apple either then.

I don't trust Google as well, but I use their services, giving them as little info as possible while still being able to use those services.

And I do that on an iPhone.
I am neither careless nor dumb enough to send ssn, with out secure password in a message. I don’t trust and assume other person is deleting the text. I don’t do business with any one who can’t send me secure link with required password protection for SSN and other important PII.
I have no problem opening a secure document on iPhone, never want my PII floating with out security.
If I didn’t trust apple, I wouldn’t be using an iPhone. I understand there is no fool proof security, but I don’t want to be a product for google to sell.
 
I am neither careless nor dumb enough to send ssn, with out secure password in a message. I don’t trust and assume other person is deleting the text. I don’t do business with any one who can’t send me secure link with required password protection for SSN and other important PII.
I have no problem opening a secure document on iPhone, never want my PII floating with out security.
Google is horrible. I dont use anything Google at all. Dont even have an account with them. Every step is tracked and stored in their massive data centers.
 
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Because everything feels smoother than on Android, and of course the marketing is soo effective
Everything feels smoother on the latest Samsung phones, actually. It's like they dipped their operating system in butter.

I really want an Oreo, but I don't have the calories for it today... :rolleyes:
I could eat 3 sleeves of Oreos and a gallon of ice cold milk right now.
 
I am neither careless nor dumb enough to send ssn, with out secure password in a message. I don’t trust and assume other person is deleting the text. I don’t do business with any one who can’t send me secure link with required password protection for SSN and other important PII.
I have no problem opening a secure document on iPhone, never want my PII floating with out security.
If I didn’t trust apple, I wouldn’t be using an iPhone. I understand there is no fool proof security, but I don’t want to be a product for google to sell.
The inference here is crazy, but I will assume you're speaking in general and not making implications.

I'm not a product for Google either. I give them a limited amount of my information, just enough so things work. Apple has more information about me than Google does. But even if Google is selling what it has, it's the price I'm willing to pay for access to their services.

After all, I do use ad blockers, spam filters and call/text blocking for a reason. If you aren't in my contacts list too, you'll have to leave a message. Maybe I'll call. :)
 
Google is horrible. I dont use anything Google at all. Dont even have an account with them. Every step is tracked and stored in their massive data centers.
You can shut that stuff off and you can use ad blockers. I've had an account with them for years - but I've also used uMatrix (a browser addon) for years that hides my tracks and blocks ads and third party tracking/scripts. Every time I drop into a website I always appear as if I came from out of nowhere - because that's what uMatrix does.

I've never had any problems with Google or targeted advertising.

PS. There are also browser addons that kill your browsing history. Mine's always set to zero and wipe on quit. But there's never anything to wipe, because at 0, nothing is ever recorded in the first place.
 
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IMO the best phone is a Pixel with GrapheneOS on it. Perfection. Secure, and gets updates.
To be fair, it only gets updates as long as Google does them. They don't extend beyond Google's update schedule, which is not amazing. Graphene is still the best option for Android, IMO.
 
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To be fair, it only gets updates as long as Google does them. They don't extend beyond Google's update schedule, which is not amazing. Graphene is still the best option for Android, IMO.
If it doesnt get updates i honestly dont care. I dont need Google's spyware updates on my phone anyway. I have been fine with having no updates with Android 7 for years now.
GrapheneOS is still the best option indeed.
 
Everything feels smoother on the latest Samsung phones, actually. It's like they dipped their operating system in butter.


I could eat 3 sleeves of Oreos and a gallon of ice cold milk right now.
Oh, i just dont know. I am just parrotting YTs now lol. I am still stuck at Android 7 ...
 
You can shut that stuff off and you can use ad blockers. I've had an account with them for years - but I've also used uMatrix (a browser addon) for years that hides my tracks and blocks ads and third party tracking/scripts. Every time I drop into a website I always appear as if I came from out of nowhere - because that's what uMatrix does.

I've never had any problems with Google or targeted advertising.

PS. There are also browser addons that kill your browsing history. Mine's always set to zero and wipe on quit. But there's never anything to wipe, because at 0, nothing is ever recorded in the first place.
That is a nice idea, but you think Google cant create solutions to problems like a browser add-on interfering with their data collection with all of their money?
 
That is a nice idea, but you think Google cant create solutions to problems like a browser add-on interfering with their data collection with all of their money?
Sure they can. But what good does it do advertisers who buy anything of mine Google has to sell if they never reach me?

Let's assume for the moment that I frequent doormat sites a lot and that ACME Doormat Company has bought all the info Google has to tell about me and doormat sites. What I like to buy, how much and how often. All the sordid details. They pay Google a lot of money for it.

When browsing, I don't see a single ACME Doormat company ad. In fact, I don't see any ads at all. Maybe I get a text, or a call or an email. I block all three. They send me a letter. It goes right into the trash can or recycle bin unopened.

So now ACME Doormat Company had paid Google a lot of money for my info and they've sold me exactly…zero doormats. And quite possibly gotten enough attention from me so that I will never step foot in one of their stores or visit their website. I've been ignoring people, businesses, and creditors in all forms since my family's first answering machine in the late 80s. I've carried on decades long self-initiated boycotts of businesses and terminated friendships over stuff that has irritated me or made me angry. I'm quite capable of holding grudges against any new companies that want to try me.

So what good does this do them?
 
Sure they can. But what good does it do advertisers who buy anything of mine Google has to sell if they never reach me?

Let's assume for the moment that I frequent doormat sites a lot and that ACME Doormat Company has bought all the info Google has to tell about me and doormat sites. What I like to buy, how much and how often. All the sordid details. They pay Google a lot of money for it.

When browsing, I don't see a single ACME Doormat company ad. In fact, I don't see any ads at all. Maybe I get a text, or a call or an email. I block all three. They send me a letter. It goes right into the trash can or recycle bin unopened.

So now ACME Doormat Company had paid Google a lot of money for my info and they've sold me exactly…zero doormats. And quite possibly gotten enough attention from me so that I will never step foot in one of their stores or visit their website. I've been ignoring people, businesses, and creditors in all forms since my family's first answering machine in the late 80s.

So what good does this do them?
Ok, fair enough. I just use a no-exception adblocker though.
Two things i have no idea why people do a lot:
-use Chrome (memory hog, spyware, and overall just a piece of crap)
-dont use adblockers (even though most are free and there sre no drawbacks to using them, and people just wait out ads on Youtube, etc.)
 
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Macrumors shouldn't even let you register an account unless you own an iPhone. IMEI and two factor authentication to confirm you're part of the Blue Bubble Brigade or you're out! This green bubble nonsense needs to cease, and especially around here. Shame on you green bubblers!
 
Macrumors shouldn't even let you register an account unless you own an iPhone. IMEI and two factor authentication to confirm you're part of the Blue Bubble Brigade or you're out! This green bubble nonsense needs to cease, and especially around here. Shame on you green bubblers!
Me with a green bubble--
 
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